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[Code A] Ro48 Day 1 2012 GSL Season 3 - Page 60

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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 26 2012 11:23 GMT
#1181
DRG does it too wolf -_-
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#1182
Bomber playing pure bio, if this goes late expect Ravens
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#1183
On June 26 2012 20:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
DRG does it too wolf -_-


dongraewho?
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
June 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#1184
On June 26 2012 20:21 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 20:19 Cokefreak wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:19 Disengaged wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:18 Mackus wrote:
HongUn has announced his retirement in the post-match interview


Who cares

Show some respect.


Hongun doesn't deserve my respect. Sorry that I upset you

What has hongun done to get people to hate him so much? He played so many entertaining games in the GSL
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37042 Posts
June 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#1185
On June 26 2012 20:23 Douillos wrote:
Terrans bitching in the LR while during the game you actually have people giving you the solution. Stop typing start analyzing.

(Im T btw)

Dude trying to fix LR threads even though it has been this way for 2+ years. Stop analyzing and start typing. YOU CAN'T RESIST!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
June 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#1186
On June 26 2012 20:23 Toadvine wrote:
Freaky going for Spire, determined to make the TvZ winrate even.


lolllllllllllll qft
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
June 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#1187
On June 26 2012 20:17 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 20:15 BuzZoo wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:13 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:07 Douillos wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:06 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:
this serie was absurd


Why?


deleted my fisrt answer. basically monster just played non sensical every game, 2 base mutas on metropolis, hidden hatch antiga. he refused to play standard and jjakji figured it out, punished his mistakes/abuses. that was it didnt learn anything, didnt do anything to push tvz forwards, but on top of that artificially increases terran winrate in tvz so that idiots can say no we dont feel the need to patch th emu koreans are doing well


Artificially? He played better and won. How is that artificial?

Games broken man. Games broken. Zerg wins duh. If Zerg doesn't win the Terran didn't out play him the Zerg just played like crap duh man.

What's that, Code S has 7 Terrans in the Ro16? Nah brah nah. Zergs OP as balls.


My theory is that terrans are the only race to never really have a true period of adversity. They have generally been the strongest race and faced nerf after nerf after nerf. Now that the game is approaching a more balanced state they are wondering why they are struggling. The possibility that they are not as good as they thought is a bitter pill to swallow.
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
June 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#1188
On June 26 2012 20:23 Douillos wrote:
Terrans bitching in the LR while during the game you actually have people giving you the solution. Stop typing start analyzing.

(Im T btw)

The solution is waiting for a greedy zerg that doesn't spread creep to his 3rd with 6 queens?
BW hwaiting!
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
June 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#1189
Isn't Freaky the guy who usually goes mass infestor?
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 26 2012 11:25 GMT
#1190
Back to more important stuffz.

Gooo Bombaaa
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 26 2012 11:25 GMT
#1191
On June 26 2012 20:24 mikedebo wrote:
Isn't Freaky the guy who usually goes mass infestor?


Yes. But being unpredictable is usually a good trait to have.
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
June 26 2012 11:25 GMT
#1192
On June 26 2012 20:11 Walitgon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 20:08 BuzZoo wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:01 qbs wrote:
and how can i learn something how to play vs zerg when Monster is playing soo bad ; /


Monster would own almost any foreign terran. My advice would be study Jakjji's game 1 and see his timings. He basically nullified any chance at droning or harass with constant pressure while taking 3 bases quickly. I'm not saying it's easy but he won because he is good rather than because Monster is bad.


Disagree. The standard (and effective) metagame is 6queen 3hatch, early upgrades, ling heavy, into infestors and/or banes, into ultras. We saw none of that and Monster got crushed as a result. Monster has been playing well but he played like a complete moron in that series.


Good point. I think he may have realised he isn't as good and gambled a bit?
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
June 26 2012 11:25 GMT
#1193
Bomber macroing like a beast.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 26 2012 11:25 GMT
#1194
On June 26 2012 20:21 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 20:17 Yello wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:08 Tsubbi wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:07 Toadvine wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:06 Tsubbi wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:03 Toadvine wrote:
It's always such a painful thing to believe yourself to be on the worse end of an imbalanced matchup, and then you see the players on the more powerful side play like idiots and lose, therefore adding to perception that the matchup is fine. I can almost feel Terrans raging at Monster right now.

It's also why the beginning of the 1/1/1 era was so funny, Terrans could play insanely bad with it and still win. I'm looking at you, IMYoda...


fyi, korean tlpd graph for june is at 50% right now (41-41), a bit in favor of terran after todays matches


Did they take out the PL games yet? Because the combined TvZ record for GSL and GSTL is still pretty bad afaik.


since all the terran whine is based on the 60% ratio of last month's graph i dont think its fair to exlude some games now, wouldnt make a significant difference anyways



Where did you found those stats? If I look only at GSL, GSTL and Proleague, I see:

2-8 in favor of Zergs in Proleague
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=leagues&id=2838&part=games&matchup=TvZ&from_year=2012&from_month=5&from_day=20&to_year=2012&to_month=6&to_day=25&action=Update


4-13 in favor of Zergs in GSTL
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=leagues&id=2867&part=games&matchup=TvZ&from_year=2012&from_month=5&from_day=28&to_year=2012&to_month=6&to_day=23&action=Update


14-11 in favor of Terran in GSL Code S
[spoiler] http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=leagues&id=2896&part=games&matchup=TvZ&from_year=2012&from_month=6&from_day=11&to_year=2012&to_month=6&to_day=21&action=Update [spoiler]

That makes a combined 20 wins for Terran and 32 for Zerg.

The Code A matches I found are from the more then a month ago.


Never count proleague GSL/GSTL is 18-22 in favor of zergs. That's the important stat. That's pretty damn close. If you want a more full picture you could include ESV weekly's etc

And now remove Symbols wins and see how even it still is.
People keep yapping over GSTL stats but most of it is symbol like back when DRG did it.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 26 2012 11:26 GMT
#1195
well that was one hell of a 1a with those banes
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 26 2012 11:26 GMT
#1196
omfg. getting all liquibets right :D
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37042 Posts
June 26 2012 11:26 GMT
#1197
Man Bomber playing so beautifully today Oo
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
June 26 2012 11:26 GMT
#1198
On June 26 2012 20:25 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 20:21 mrtomjones wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:17 Yello wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:08 Tsubbi wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:07 Toadvine wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:06 Tsubbi wrote:
On June 26 2012 20:03 Toadvine wrote:
It's always such a painful thing to believe yourself to be on the worse end of an imbalanced matchup, and then you see the players on the more powerful side play like idiots and lose, therefore adding to perception that the matchup is fine. I can almost feel Terrans raging at Monster right now.

It's also why the beginning of the 1/1/1 era was so funny, Terrans could play insanely bad with it and still win. I'm looking at you, IMYoda...


fyi, korean tlpd graph for june is at 50% right now (41-41), a bit in favor of terran after todays matches


Did they take out the PL games yet? Because the combined TvZ record for GSL and GSTL is still pretty bad afaik.


since all the terran whine is based on the 60% ratio of last month's graph i dont think its fair to exlude some games now, wouldnt make a significant difference anyways



Where did you found those stats? If I look only at GSL, GSTL and Proleague, I see:

2-8 in favor of Zergs in Proleague
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=leagues&id=2838&part=games&matchup=TvZ&from_year=2012&from_month=5&from_day=20&to_year=2012&to_month=6&to_day=25&action=Update


4-13 in favor of Zergs in GSTL
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=leagues&id=2867&part=games&matchup=TvZ&from_year=2012&from_month=5&from_day=28&to_year=2012&to_month=6&to_day=23&action=Update


14-11 in favor of Terran in GSL Code S
[spoiler] http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=leagues&id=2896&part=games&matchup=TvZ&from_year=2012&from_month=6&from_day=11&to_year=2012&to_month=6&to_day=21&action=Update [spoiler]

That makes a combined 20 wins for Terran and 32 for Zerg.

The Code A matches I found are from the more then a month ago.


Never count proleague GSL/GSTL is 18-22 in favor of zergs. That's the important stat. That's pretty damn close. If you want a more full picture you could include ESV weekly's etc

And now remove Symbols wins and see how even it still is.
People keep yapping over GSTL stats but most of it is symbol like back when DRG did it.

And Moon
And Life
BW hwaiting!
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
June 26 2012 11:27 GMT
#1199
fuck bomber is really good, freaky's ZvZ is god tier though i want him to get into code S and become a big star
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
June 26 2012 11:27 GMT
#1200
Bomber macro kickin in
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