His Vikings got stormed, and then the Archons finished them off.

You need to spread them out at that point in the late game or else they die faster than they can do anything to the collosus.

Yeah, but it wasn't even close. If you emp the entire army it should be close. He also did quite some damage in the early game, how come Ace went toe to toe with him in the late game? Fuck TvP.

It was close at first.

Then the follow up warp in from Ace tipped the scales into his favor.

That's the big problem. It doesn't matter if you clear out all the Zealots when you're trading your army away, if you don't kill the Collosus, the follow up warp in will just break you.

Taeja was doing pretty well, and was ahead all the way until he way overcommited at Ace's natural, first getting stormed from the high ground, and then not getting out of there when it became clear that he couldn't win, at which point he was in fact still ahead, but instead he lost his entire army, and then everything snowballed out of control.

Oh I totally agree. The game completely fell out of Taeja's favor the moment he lost the siege tanks and ace was on 3 bases.

I was just pointing out what happened in that last engagement where Taeja got crushed despite landing EMPs.

?Those siege tanks didn't mean anything, taeja was still ahead for a good portion after those 2 meaningless siege tanks got picked off.

While the siege tanks dying wasn't a huge deal, it was at that time that Taeja lost the advantage he had acquired in the early game.

After that push was denied Ace was up on a third base faster than his opponent, and it was that superior economy that ended up winning him the game.

Are you kidding me? Taeja had the better economy even after losing those 2 meaningless tanks. He was max with 3k min in the bank, 1.5k gas, 5 or so OC before Ace fully established his 4th

And yet it was at that moment that I knew with absolute certainty that Taeja was going to lose that game.

Wonder how I knew that.

Granted a lot of that was because it was on Daybreak.

Because you are overconfident?

zezamer

Finland5701 Posts

June 21 2012 10:03 GMT

#424

On June 21 2012 19:01 Logros wrote:
Entire thread whining that Taeja is dead for the last few pages because late-game TvP -> Taeja wins late-game TvP.

Thread didn't expect Ace to go full foreigner

ZenithM

France15952 Posts

June 21 2012 10:03 GMT

#425

Ace getting baited into a really bad position by a PF...
That was really bad play there.

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

June 21 2012 10:03 GMT

#426

Ace engagement is the new Best Banshee.

SupLilSon

Malaysia4123 Posts

June 21 2012 10:03 GMT

#427

Wow, even though he won I feel so bad for Taeja. He looks seriously stressed right now. TAEJA GOGO

Serelitz

Netherlands2895 Posts

June 21 2012 10:03 GMT

#428

On June 21 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
Sick game... for once a macro game, without both players turtling for 20minutes

Hope you're joking, that game was horrible. So many mistakes on both sides D:

Taeja really seemed a lot better when he was on SlayerS.

SupLilSon

Malaysia4123 Posts

June 21 2012 10:04 GMT

#429

On June 21 2012 19:03 zezamer wrote:

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Thread didn't expect Ace to go full foreigner

You never... go.. full foreigner

Logros

Netherlands9913 Posts

June 21 2012 10:04 GMT

#430

On June 21 2012 19:02 Everlong wrote:

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You can't be serious, no way.. Like, really...

Just stating what happened, made me laugh. Taeja won right?

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

June 21 2012 10:04 GMT

#431

Poll: 2rax inc?

all day every day (24)

80%

taeja too good to cheese (6)

20%

30 total votes

Your vote: 2rax inc?

(Vote): all day every day
(Vote): taeja too good to cheese

CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr

544 Posts

June 21 2012 10:04 GMT

#432

On June 21 2012 19:02 Asha` wrote:

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Only took the worst engagement of this GSL =D

Its Ace losing focus/patience/falling apart mentally, its not tvp. he was winning, he wanted to do a 2prong attack with dts, dts get shut down, and he attacks anyway. he played well up to that point but did an unnaceptable move, and that was it.

Reasonable

Ukraine1432 Posts

June 21 2012 10:04 GMT

#433

I wonder why Ace decided to attack as a protoss. IMO he should have cannoned up and got a mothership. Vortex the ball and roll terran over

Killmouse

Austria5700 Posts

June 21 2012 10:04 GMT

#434

On June 21 2012 19:03 SupLilSon wrote:
Wow, even though he won I feel so bad for Taeja. He looks seriously stressed right now. TAEJA GOGO

everyone get stressed after tvp lategame

FidoDido

United States1292 Posts

June 21 2012 10:04 GMT

#435

that wasn't even a bait.. Ace just randomly decided to attack a PF when he wasn't maxed with his entire army.. as well as choosing to not engage the army with his zealots . doesn't even make sense.

IshinShishi

Japan6156 Posts

June 21 2012 10:04 GMT

#436

On June 21 2012 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote:

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To be fair, Terrans also have to micro their bio units also while the Protoss doesn't have to micro much else in their main army aside from their HTs.

You realize that astray ghosts in the middle of the map do nothing, right?Yay I hit an emp!Oops they recharge their shield

, there's no point in sending ghosts one by one, you have to carpet EMP.

Toadvine

Poland2234 Posts

June 21 2012 10:05 GMT

#437

On June 21 2012 19:02 KiNGxXx wrote:

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Only need a bad protoss to win late game TvP

Also it was like 7 vs 4 bases a long time.

I think it would've been over at least twice after Taeja's big pushes into Ace's 4th, if not for those Ghost blunders.

sc14s

United States5052 Posts

June 21 2012 10:05 GMT

#438

On June 21 2012 19:01 Logros wrote:
Entire thread whining that Taeja is dead for the last few pages because late-game TvP -> Taeja wins late-game TvP.

err? its not impossible to win late game TvP.

pyro19

6575 Posts

June 21 2012 10:05 GMT

#439

Nice Game...Ace made a huge blunder by getting sandwiched between the PF