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On June 17 2012 07:30 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:11 teddyoojo wrote:
i feel like this dreamhack showcases how fucking hard the competition in europe is I think it shows that the gulf in class between Korean/foreigners who train in Korea/Stephano and the general European players is getting bigger. JYP gets eliminated in the RO64 Daisy gets eliminated in the RO64 ToD (who has been living in Korea for ages) might be eliminated in the RO64 after losing to a complete unknown Elfi takes games out of both Vampire and HuK TaeJa losing games against unknown French and Danish players. HayprO out in the RO64 High Masters British Zerg takes out Stephano your argument makes no sense
Lol I can tell you didn't actually watch Taeja today.
No one cares about dropping games when you won a series, especially if it's PvP.
Haypro's been in Korea about a month and had a lot of catching up to do.
JYP lost one PvP.
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Hehe Incontrol:D I really enjoy listening to Incontrol he is allways so funny
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Canada13389 Posts
He just pulled a kingkong heyooooo
If the hellions get lucky and make it in they do some damage.
I like the way sculp did it though last night, 2 hellions to pull queens one way another two go another way and then drones die.
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On June 17 2012 07:31 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:23 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:20 teddyoojo wrote:On June 17 2012 07:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:11 teddyoojo wrote:
i feel like this dreamhack showcases how fucking hard the competition in europe is I think it shows that the gulf in class between Korean/foreigners who train in Korea/Stephano and the general European players is getting bigger. mini(random unknown euro player) owns tod and kicks him out titan 2-0's jyp and kicks him out I don't rate Tod at all. Extremely overrated player based on his Wc3 history. He's shown nothing in this game so doesn't suprise me one bit he loses to lesser known players. Titan's quite well known and everyone knows anyone can win in PvP. Well you better start rating him because he's already one of the best players from Europe.
His results suggest otherwise.
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On June 17 2012 07:33 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:31 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 17 2012 07:23 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:20 teddyoojo wrote:On June 17 2012 07:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:11 teddyoojo wrote:
i feel like this dreamhack showcases how fucking hard the competition in europe is I think it shows that the gulf in class between Korean/foreigners who train in Korea/Stephano and the general European players is getting bigger. mini(random unknown euro player) owns tod and kicks him out titan 2-0's jyp and kicks him out I don't rate Tod at all. Extremely overrated player based on his Wc3 history. He's shown nothing in this game so doesn't suprise me one bit he loses to lesser known players. Titan's quite well known and everyone knows anyone can win in PvP. Well you better start rating him because he's already one of the best players from Europe. How can you say this? He's accomplished nothing and plays in no tournaments and is being extremely underwhelming here.
He's focusing on the GSL primarily, that's why you don't see much of him in foreign tournaments. You might as well compare him to the dozens of code b koreans out there.
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Thank god MaNa got through. But that was a really sad moment for a short period of time...
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Well, then MaNa is 4-5 and Merz is 3-4, which would make them go to the direct comparism, which MaNa won, right? I jope it goes that way.
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lol i love how incontrol can't stop calling Ret Jos
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On June 17 2012 07:31 Dexington wrote:
Apparently Mana only lost 2-1 to Protosser. In which case he moves on.
The groups are decided in the following order: points, maps +/-, internal match. In case of a three-way-tie of the previous criteria internal maps +/- will decide.
Would this not separate the players and determine the group. The players will play a tie-breaker of BO1 against each other. The first match-up will be randomly drawn and tie-breakers will continue until the group is decided.
I don't think so, sadly.
Merz makes it through afaik.
Edit: probably wrong! :D
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On June 17 2012 07:34 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:33 Dexington wrote:On June 17 2012 07:31 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 17 2012 07:23 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:20 teddyoojo wrote:On June 17 2012 07:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:11 teddyoojo wrote:
i feel like this dreamhack showcases how fucking hard the competition in europe is I think it shows that the gulf in class between Korean/foreigners who train in Korea/Stephano and the general European players is getting bigger. mini(random unknown euro player) owns tod and kicks him out titan 2-0's jyp and kicks him out I don't rate Tod at all. Extremely overrated player based on his Wc3 history. He's shown nothing in this game so doesn't suprise me one bit he loses to lesser known players. Titan's quite well known and everyone knows anyone can win in PvP. Well you better start rating him because he's already one of the best players from Europe. How can you say this? He's accomplished nothing and plays in no tournaments and is being extremely underwhelming here. He's focusing on the GSL soley, that's why you don't see much of him in foreign tournaments. You might as well compare him to the dozens of code b koreans out there.
So why didn't he tear shit up this tournament? It's not like he had tough opponents.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Uh... when was the last time iNc and Khaldor saw a hellion runby? You attack the hellions with the drones, that's what you do, lol.
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Mana and Tod have both made it through their groups, no clue why people are suggesting otherwise?
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BratOK has some decent micro for sure.
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Fraer looking strong (just looking at results here). Will hopefully see some games with him tomorrow. Seen his name around for a long while on GM ladder and daily/weekly/montly EU tournaments, but never actually seen him play yet.
And to the people throwing references to the DH rules: WHy exactly does ToD go through?
Edit: halvorg gave a good explanation a few posts up. Thanks. Thought win% would count for map scores.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
That push went. Really well.
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I actually wonder if kamikaze helion's aren't the answer against this 6 queen style, yes the queens can normally fight of helions if they engage directly, but if you hit and run on separate fronts you could roast tons of drones. But then again zergs will learn how to wall off again.
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On June 17 2012 07:34 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:33 Dexington wrote:On June 17 2012 07:31 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 17 2012 07:23 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:20 teddyoojo wrote:On June 17 2012 07:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:11 teddyoojo wrote:
i feel like this dreamhack showcases how fucking hard the competition in europe is I think it shows that the gulf in class between Korean/foreigners who train in Korea/Stephano and the general European players is getting bigger. mini(random unknown euro player) owns tod and kicks him out titan 2-0's jyp and kicks him out I don't rate Tod at all. Extremely overrated player based on his Wc3 history. He's shown nothing in this game so doesn't suprise me one bit he loses to lesser known players. Titan's quite well known and everyone knows anyone can win in PvP. Well you better start rating him because he's already one of the best players from Europe. How can you say this? He's accomplished nothing and plays in no tournaments and is being extremely underwhelming here. He's focusing on the GSL primarily, that's why you don't see much of him in foreign tournaments. You might as well compare him to the dozens of code b koreans out there.
Fanboys will be fanboys.
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United States15275 Posts
On June 17 2012 07:34 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:33 Dexington wrote:On June 17 2012 07:31 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 17 2012 07:23 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:20 teddyoojo wrote:On June 17 2012 07:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 07:11 teddyoojo wrote:
i feel like this dreamhack showcases how fucking hard the competition in europe is I think it shows that the gulf in class between Korean/foreigners who train in Korea/Stephano and the general European players is getting bigger. mini(random unknown euro player) owns tod and kicks him out titan 2-0's jyp and kicks him out I don't rate Tod at all. Extremely overrated player based on his Wc3 history. He's shown nothing in this game so doesn't suprise me one bit he loses to lesser known players. Titan's quite well known and everyone knows anyone can win in PvP. Well you better start rating him because he's already one of the best players from Europe. How can you say this? He's accomplished nothing and plays in no tournaments and is being extremely underwhelming here. He's focusing on the GSL primarily, that's why you don't see much of him in foreign tournaments. You might as well compare him to the dozens of code b koreans out there.
The dozens of Code B Koreans he loses to all the time? To be the one of the best Europeans you have to beat the best Europeans, and he hasn't been doing that either.
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That was really impressive by Brat.
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