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On June 17 2012 06:43 ELA wrote:So yeah... Anyone else excited for this group? :D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/txjaP.jpg)
I'm sad cuz nani isn't going to make it out of this group alive. his zvp is abysmal and hero's got his number in pvp historically.
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On June 17 2012 06:43 ELA wrote:So yeah... Anyone else excited for this group? :D
Short of a large upset, Naniwa and HerO are going to advance, not that excited except to see how well they play.
Well, Forsen is able to upset Naniwa because Naniwa didn't practice PvZ for weeks.
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DH music guy ftw. Cantina -> Bomfunk Mc -> epic sax guy -> tenacious d.
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On June 17 2012 06:44 Zeborg wrote:
I think the anti-Stephano crew has finally done it. They've become more annoying than the Stephano fanboys.
Can we call it a draw and move on?
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On June 17 2012 06:41 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:36 oZii wrote:On June 17 2012 06:34 JJH777 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:32 oZii wrote:On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often. Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky. It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano. I mean Nestea has similar results to Stephano in the time between them all last winning a tournament and yet Nestea is in this massive slump according to most. http://sc2earnings.com/?year=20121 MvPPark "DongRaeGu" Soo Ho $101,800 2 SK GamingJang "MC" Min Chul $71,150 3 PrimeLee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon $57,030 4 FnaticHan "aLive" Lee Seok $53,390 5 Incredible MiracleJeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $47,330 6 MilleniumIlyes "Stephano" Satouri $42,615I only see 1 other zerg on that list hmmmm.... lol at judging skill based on prize money. lmao @ judging my post before reading the entire arguement. Tournament results = prize money which is what the argument was about lol. So for this argument yes. Unless we can only base it off of what you PERCEIVE it to be based on. Enlighten me please A GSL ro8 is harder to get to/a better result than outright winning any foreign tournament besides MLGs/IPL4 but doesn't give even close to the prize money.
I believe it is. Stephano will being going to korea soon unless something has changed. So can't really go by that until he does. Its all about what we hold as more value when determining skill. If they got to GSL ro8 then by that logic they should roll every other tournament but we all know thats not the case.
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On June 17 2012 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:40 Loxley wrote:On June 17 2012 06:34 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.
Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.
Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure. I don't disagree with that statement either, he's a top 5 Zerg imo. But I disagree with them constantly acting like he's a top 1 Zerg and a top 1 player when his results do not back that up one bit. Really nobody is constantly acting like he is the top1 Zerg. People see him as one of the best foreigner zerg, and probably one of the top-x in the world. Thats all. Let it go man. lol wut? People always act like Stephano is the best Zerg in the world. Luckily with DRG winning MLG, people have settled down a bit.
Didn't he beat DRG in that blizzard championship tournament? he's at least as good I'd say.. except he has a life.. I think people hates him because of that.. he's the Capablanca of SC2
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On June 17 2012 06:44 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:41 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:39 JJH777 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:36 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:33 Ryps wrote:On June 17 2012 06:30 Xoronius wrote:On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ? Symbol - no. Nestea - I can´t really judge that. Byul, life - yes. You actually think he is worse than symbol but doubt Nestea who has been in code S forever and actually won it ? Symbol has yet to prove himself in GSL but a lot of people think he is the best zerg. Symbol overrated by alot. He dont even got a fraction of Stephano achievement he didnt look good at all at MLG while Stephano went 5-0 in his group. Once again Symbol is Korean and thats the only reason why people would even say that. He all-killed IM and took second at Iron Squid (a tournament Stephano was in and failed to get out of the group stages) He allkillled so what so did QXC? His Korean and thats the only reason why he is even spoken in the same sentence as Stephano And you talk about Iron Squid? Online means nothing.. All that matters is lan QXC all-killed IM when they sent out 3 code b players and the team leagues were only bo7. Symbol all killed them when they sent out all their best players besides Seed. It was also a reverse all-kill which is even more impressive. The last few rounds of Iron Squid were lan and online does mean something. The only reason people say online doesn't mean anything is because of latency but in this case the latency would have favored Stephano and he was the one who lost... So that just makes him look even worse.
ah so online now means something, when it's stephano winning online it means absolutely nothing, get your shit together when you're hating 
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On June 17 2012 06:41 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:39 JJH777 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:36 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:33 Ryps wrote:On June 17 2012 06:30 Xoronius wrote:On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ? Symbol - no. Nestea - I can´t really judge that. Byul, life - yes. You actually think he is worse than symbol but doubt Nestea who has been in code S forever and actually won it ? Symbol has yet to prove himself in GSL but a lot of people think he is the best zerg. Symbol overrated by alot. He dont even got a fraction of Stephano achievement he didnt look good at all at MLG while Stephano went 5-0 in his group. Once again Symbol is Korean and thats the only reason why people would even say that. He all-killed IM and took second at Iron Squid (a tournament Stephano was in and failed to get out of the group stages) He allkillled so what so did QXC? His Korean and thats the only reason why he is even spoken in the same sentence as Stephano And you talk about Iron Squid? Online means nothing.. All that matters is lan
Haha comparing QXC's allkill to symbol's. That's hilarious.
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lol this music on stream 2
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On June 17 2012 06:44 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 17 2012 06:40 Loxley wrote:On June 17 2012 06:34 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.
Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.
Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure. I don't disagree with that statement either, he's a top 5 Zerg imo. But I disagree with them constantly acting like he's a top 1 Zerg and a top 1 player when his results do not back that up one bit. Really nobody is constantly acting like he is the top1 Zerg. People see him as one of the best foreigner zerg, and probably one of the top-x in the world. Thats all. Let it go man. lol wut? People always act like Stephano is the best Zerg in the world. Luckily with DRG winning MLG, people have settled down a bit. No we dont his a top 3 zerg in the world no one has ever sayd Stephano is the best zerg in the world
Actually you were saying just a few weeks before MLG than Stephano had better ZvP than DRG.
Luckily Sase shut you up this weekend.
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On June 17 2012 06:41 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:36 oZii wrote:On June 17 2012 06:34 JJH777 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:32 oZii wrote:On June 17 2012 06:28 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:25 jalstar wrote:On June 17 2012 06:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. Stephano hasn't won a premier tournament in 8 months. Just throwing that stat out there for people who seem to forget it all too often. Well only 3 Zergs have won a premier tournament more recently than Stephano. So yeah that's more than 1 or 2 but you're being a bit nitpicky. It's just very off base when people talk about Stephano as this god of the game when it's actually a really long time since he won anything major when you wouldn't get anything like the same endless stream of hyperbole for Leenock, Violet, Symbol or any of the various players of other races with better/equal results in 2012 than Stephano. I mean Nestea has similar results to Stephano in the time between them all last winning a tournament and yet Nestea is in this massive slump according to most. http://sc2earnings.com/?year=20121 MvPPark "DongRaeGu" Soo Ho $101,800 2 SK GamingJang "MC" Min Chul $71,150 3 PrimeLee "MarineKing" Jung Hoon $57,030 4 FnaticHan "aLive" Lee Seok $53,390 5 Incredible MiracleJeong "Mvp" Jong Hyeon $47,330 6 MilleniumIlyes "Stephano" Satouri $42,615I only see 1 other zerg on that list hmmmm.... lol at judging skill based on prize money. lmao @ judging my post before reading the entire arguement. Tournament results = prize money which is what the argument was about lol. So for this argument yes. Unless we can only base it off of what you PERCEIVE it to be based on. Enlighten me please A GSL ro8 is harder to get to/a better result than outright winning any foreign tournament besides MLGs/IPL4 but doesn't give even close to the prize money.
That's not true at all.
Naniwa beat Virus, Puzzle, Ryung and Genius to get to the round of 8.
A lot of foreign tournaments show better runs than that. For example Stephano beating Ganzi,Illusion,Violet,Squirtle and Parting to get only 3d place at Redbull is at least as hard as what Naniwa did.
On June 17 2012 06:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:44 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 17 2012 06:40 Loxley wrote:On June 17 2012 06:34 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 06:30 KalWarkov wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea I see your comment "Stephano hasnt won a premier tournament in 8 months" for the 4th fucking time now. plz stop to try to annoy ppl and open your eyes - there is 3 zergs who DID WIN a premiier tournament in this time. Stephano overall placed the best in average out of all zergs behind DRG.
Again, im not saying he is the best zerg in the world or stuff like that, but hes awesome, hes the best foreigner and a top 10 zerg in the world period.
Every korean progamer would agree with this statement, im pretty sure. I don't disagree with that statement either, he's a top 5 Zerg imo. But I disagree with them constantly acting like he's a top 1 Zerg and a top 1 player when his results do not back that up one bit. Really nobody is constantly acting like he is the top1 Zerg. People see him as one of the best foreigner zerg, and probably one of the top-x in the world. Thats all. Let it go man. lol wut? People always act like Stephano is the best Zerg in the world. Luckily with DRG winning MLG, people have settled down a bit. No we dont his a top 3 zerg in the world no one has ever sayd Stephano is the best zerg in the world Actually you were saying just a few weeks before MLG than Stephano had better ZvP than DRG. Luckily Sase shut you up this weekend.
Because one series is enough to determine that?
You know DRG lost to Socke right? Does that make he suck too?
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On June 17 2012 06:43 ELA wrote:So yeah... Anyone else excited for this group? :D
Nuuuu, where's my forsen ZvZ!
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On June 17 2012 06:44 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:41 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:39 JJH777 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:36 Benjamin99 wrote:On June 17 2012 06:33 Ryps wrote:On June 17 2012 06:30 Xoronius wrote:On June 17 2012 06:28 zezamer wrote:On June 17 2012 06:19 Ph4ZeD wrote:On June 17 2012 06:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Stephano hype is so ridiculous. "Only Stephano holds that". Yes that's why DRG is a much better Zerg Geoff. Stephano is a fucking great player sure but say many people seem to forget DRG exists when they're throwing out the hyperbole. If your in a position where you play Starcraft 2 and there's 1 or 2 players better than you of your race, I'd say you've hit the big time. So stephano is better than nestea, buyl, symbol, life etc ? Symbol - no. Nestea - I can´t really judge that. Byul, life - yes. You actually think he is worse than symbol but doubt Nestea who has been in code S forever and actually won it ? Symbol has yet to prove himself in GSL but a lot of people think he is the best zerg. Symbol overrated by alot. He dont even got a fraction of Stephano achievement he didnt look good at all at MLG while Stephano went 5-0 in his group. Once again Symbol is Korean and thats the only reason why people would even say that. He all-killed IM and took second at Iron Squid (a tournament Stephano was in and failed to get out of the group stages) He allkillled so what so did QXC? His Korean and thats the only reason why he is even spoken in the same sentence as Stephano And you talk about Iron Squid? Online means nothing.. All that matters is lan I'm glad you say that because a LAN is something Stephano hasn't been winning recently.
I'll admit...that was a good burn.
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So err why is nobody talking about Protosser? Guy hasn't dropped a game yet and he beat QXC already.
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Wuhuu Protosser.
Buhuu Elfi. 
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Anyone know when and where Nani will play?
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Wow Protessor is doing well in his group, beating QXC and Merz, and will likely beat Mana since Mana is weak in PvZ.
Also ToD lost to a zerg by the name of Mini, but still has to go through Seiplo. He might not even make it out of his group if Mini beats the terran.
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On June 17 2012 06:44 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 06:43 ELA wrote:So yeah... Anyone else excited for this group? :D Short of a large upset, Naniwa and HerO are going to advance, not that excited except to see how well they play. Well, Forsen is able to upset Naniwa because Naniwa didn't practice PvZ for weeks.
I think Nani would have at least practiced some PvZ considering Nestea was in his GSL group, despite that we all know of his weakness in the matchup.
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On June 17 2012 06:46 Sp00ly wrote:
So err why is nobody talking about Protosser? Guy hasn't dropped a game yet and he beat QXC already.
Because only finns have heard about him
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On June 17 2012 06:46 Sp00ly wrote:
So err why is nobody talking about Protosser? Guy hasn't dropped a game yet and he beat QXC already.
Because most europeans already know he is good and can play against the best
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