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IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
June 15 2012 17:03 GMT
#2261
BOOOOOOM 5th race FIGHTING!!!!!
Evil Geniuses needs a LoL team.... Pobelter/Altec fan
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
June 15 2012 17:09 GMT
#2262
On June 16 2012 02:03 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 01:57 ZenithM wrote:
Greg Fields ‏@idrajit
zerg 0-3 in their last 3 gstl games



Lol, only Idra



Zerg's dominance in GSTL finally over?
:O
moo...for DRG
Sc2ttyl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States245 Posts
June 15 2012 17:10 GMT
#2263
On June 15 2012 22:28 EmilA wrote:
Time to buff ultras

And nerf marine range plox so op. Lets make tanks range cut in half too thats seems like a good idea with the state of terran now adays! GOgO
yo
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
June 15 2012 17:10 GMT
#2264
On June 15 2012 21:51 Wintex wrote:
So guys! Wolfless, or Tastelf?

Wolfless
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
June 15 2012 17:14 GMT
#2265
On June 15 2012 23:50 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
But Moon was never particularly great at Sc2. A lot of people claim Moon will be one of the worlds elite players with practice, I think that's a questionable claim for sure.

You already forgot IEM WC and DH summer last year?^^
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
June 15 2012 17:15 GMT
#2266
On June 15 2012 22:27 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 22:02 Femari wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:01 00Visor wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:51 Dakkas wrote:
Just checked the results, Moon is finally living up to his hype. Guy is just beasting it in the GSTL


The word "hype" is so negatively misused in this community, I wouldnt put it on Moon.
Moon is a RTS legend. Its proven he got talent.

He's been hyped as one of the best players in the world when he practices. It's a difference between having talent and being hyped as one of the best players in the world.

Wrong, he WAS one of the best players in the world when he practised (in WC3). Not that crazy that some people hope its the same case for SC2. And I didnt see too many make that exact claim.

Definition to hype: "to intensify (advertising, promotion, or publicity) by ingenious or questionable claims, methods"
As soon as there is an upcoming player or otherwise promising (like Moon), its called a hype, because that player doesnt have results to back it up. This is so silly. If he would have results, he wouldnt be upcoming/promising anymore. And its not an "ingenious or questionable claim" that Moon will be good regarding his history.

Its so frustrating that every upcoming player gets thrown in the hype trash can.
(And may stay there forever, like when Stephano won IPL3, he was still overhyped according to many)


Umm people were actually saying Moon was unbeatable in practice in SC2.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
June 15 2012 17:15 GMT
#2267
It's sorta fun how the most underdog of the group manages to crush one of favorites of the group.
Kinda glad I liquidbet against Prime.
ashLoo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States202 Posts
June 15 2012 17:26 GMT
#2268
Wow! Grats to Fnatic
sneep
IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
June 15 2012 17:30 GMT
#2269
Moon is going to win Dreamhack, book it
Evil Geniuses needs a LoL team.... Pobelter/Altec fan
Zalitara
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway361 Posts
June 15 2012 17:32 GMT
#2270
On June 16 2012 02:30 IndridCold wrote:
Moon is going to win Dreamhack, book it
He isn't going, not enough time to get to Sweden, I guess the coach decided they needed him for GSTL, and he was right. They said Moon wasn't going in the Fnatic article that said Nightend had gotten sick and wasn't attending either.
Live to win
IndridCold
Profile Joined August 2010
United States385 Posts
June 15 2012 17:46 GMT
#2271
On June 16 2012 02:32 Zalitara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 02:30 IndridCold wrote:
Moon is going to win Dreamhack, book it
He isn't going, not enough time to get to Sweden, I guess the coach decided they needed him for GSTL, and he was right. They said Moon wasn't going in the Fnatic article that said Nightend had gotten sick and wasn't attending either.
oh noooooooooo i was really looking forward to Moon winning that too.... oh well...
Evil Geniuses needs a LoL team.... Pobelter/Altec fan
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
June 15 2012 17:52 GMT
#2272
Wuuuut. O.O

I literally had my face frozen like the Ever 08 finals Bisu face for 10 seconds after clicking that spoiler.

Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
June 15 2012 18:12 GMT
#2273
i have mixed feelings about this. prime is my favorite korean team, but fnatic is a foreign team (kinda)
Co-Manager of Soviet Gaming * http://twitter.com/#!/sGMarioo * http://www.facebook.com/SovietGamingfanpage * https://twitter.com/#!/SovietGaming
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 15 2012 18:49 GMT
#2274
On June 16 2012 01:49 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 00:37 KalWarkov wrote:
On June 15 2012 23:50 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:27 00Visor wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:02 Femari wrote:
On June 15 2012 22:01 00Visor wrote:
On June 15 2012 21:51 Dakkas wrote:
Just checked the results, Moon is finally living up to his hype. Guy is just beasting it in the GSTL


The word "hype" is so negatively misused in this community, I wouldnt put it on Moon.
Moon is a RTS legend. Its proven he got talent.

He's been hyped as one of the best players in the world when he practices. It's a difference between having talent and being hyped as one of the best players in the world.

Wrong, he WAS one of the best players in the world when he practised (in WC3). Not that crazy that some people hope its the same case for SC2. And I didnt see too many make that exact claim.

Definition to hype: "to intensify (advertising, promotion, or publicity) by ingenious or questionable claims, methods"
As soon as there is an upcoming player or otherwise promising (like Moon), its called a hype, because that player doesnt have results to back it up. This is so silly. If he would have results, he wouldnt be upcoming/promising anymore. And its not an "ingenious or questionable claim" that Moon will be good regarding his history.

Its so frustrating that every upcoming player gets thrown in the hype trash can.
(And may stay there forever, like when Stephano won IPL3, he was still overhyped according to many)


But Moon was never particularly great at Sc2. A lot of people claim Moon will be one of the worlds elite players with practice, I think that's a questionable claim for sure.

And Stephano is still overhyped. He hasn't won a Premier Tournament in 8 months (and he's only made one final in that time) and yet is constantly the favourite to win almost everything according to TL.



ehm... but hes top 8 in every single one of them???

and moon just beat MKP and Byul, after winning 3 in a row vs TSL last time "A lot of people claim Moon will be one of the worlds elite players with practice, I think that's a questionable claim for sure" how do you think this claim is questionable?

Guy would rape everything that isnt kespa if hed play 10h/day which he doesnt, at least play on par with the best 5. You dont have a wc3 background, i assume? Look at the foreigners, probably 22-25 of the best 30 have been wc3 players before. Just one of them was near Moon's level, all the others were little flys to him. He was the 5th race.

Its definitely a questionable claim, because there is no evidence that shows WC3 skill translates in any way into SC2 skill. All we know is Moon was really, really good at WC3 and that he's a creative, smart, and hard working player. There is no way to know how those traits will impact his SC2 performance. Therefore, the claim that he's gonna be great at sc2 is clearly questionable and by no means a certainty.

What evidence do you want? Arguably 4 of the 5 best foreigners come from WC3: Stephano, Naniwa, Thorzain and Sase. Moon and Lyn have been doing well, when they practised.
The claim (that Moon will be among the best) is by no means a "certainty", but its a reasonable claim based on good reasons, not "ingenious or questionable". (would be silly to say that every claim is questionable)
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
June 15 2012 18:51 GMT
#2275
G Damn, Moon is a fucking beast!!
Dixer_ca^^ | Polt | Byun | MKP | DRG | White-Ra | Beastyqt | Maru | Creator
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
June 15 2012 19:16 GMT
#2276
WOW, went to bed when it was 3-3, did NOT expect this to happen. wow.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
June 15 2012 19:17 GMT
#2277
Good job Fnatic for beating one of the best teams as of recently, and also for getting the first TvZ win of the tournament. :D (though I may be mistaken on that).
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
June 15 2012 19:47 GMT
#2278
Alive's bio micro and positioning really impressed me today, his splitting and dropping and positioning...the guy knows what he's doing with MMM.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 15 2012 20:10 GMT
#2279
How long has it been since Moon decided to switch to SC2 full time. Can't have even been a month... he is already showing scary results o.o. The 4th race?
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
June 15 2012 20:16 GMT
#2280
On the other hand, some of the big names from WC3 have also languished: Grubby/ToD.
tpfkan
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