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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
June 13 2012 07:09 GMT
#221
Damn, I knew that Monster was beasting it up but I did not see an all kill coming. Gotta watch out for him!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
June 13 2012 07:24 GMT
#222
My brother said Monster is pretty comparable to DRG, especially in regards to ZvT. He was saying his ZvT may just be as good as DRG/about the same level from what he saw when he lived in the MVP house.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 13 2012 07:25 GMT
#223
On June 13 2012 16:24 SniXSniPe wrote:
My brother said Monster is pretty comparable to DRG, especially in regards to ZvT. He was saying his ZvT may just be as good as DRG/about the same level from what he saw when he lived in the MVP house.

your brother lived in the MVP house?? wow
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
June 13 2012 07:41 GMT
#224
On June 13 2012 11:43 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 11:39 SirPinky wrote:
On June 13 2012 11:26 zEnVy wrote:
How is it that EG gets smashed in team leagues constantly? I understand MVP should be the better team, but their roster isn't so deep that they should be able to all kill even the decent foreign teams.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but EG, as a team seems to recruit players on their recent wins then once the player joins the team they "slump" (i.e. Huk)? Also Puma hasn't had any recent metionables either, has he? They just got 4-0 by MVP. I remember a couple month ago on IPL Liquid Sheth did the same thing and ALL-Killed their team. I used to cheer for these guys but with Idra's mega slump (and it seems Huk is there too), I guess I'll have to cross my fingers for Thorzain.


Puma has been one of the most consistent performers for EG, he recently got 5/6th ( same as stephano ) at MLG.


One ? He's easily the best and most reliable player, in both solo/team leagues.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Mr. Nefarious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
June 13 2012 07:50 GMT
#225
On June 13 2012 16:25 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 16:24 SniXSniPe wrote:
My brother said Monster is pretty comparable to DRG, especially in regards to ZvT. He was saying his ZvT may just be as good as DRG/about the same level from what he saw when he lived in the MVP house.

your brother lived in the MVP house?? wow


Yeah I'm pretty sure Snipe is trimaster's brother? Either way snixsnipe smashed a bunch of kids at this last MLG, I'll take his word for Monster being pretty damn good.
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Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
June 13 2012 07:53 GMT
#226
On June 13 2012 15:18 Shinta) wrote:
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On June 13 2012 12:58 YourGoodFriend wrote:
On June 13 2012 10:36 tree.hugger wrote:
Huh, I was talking to Liquid'KingstonHyperX and Liquid'BigfootNetworks about this match, and we all agreed EG needs a dedicated coach. And a Korean training house, don't forget the Korean training house.


Honestly I love Geoff (iNcontroL) but I think his best role for the team would be to step back and coach. He is a really good coach and a great motivator, he already kind of acts as the team dad so why not make that his permanent role at EG. (also he should still cast cause he is a really good host and caster)

~YourFriend

Honestly, it may seem different, but iNcontroL does not get paid his salary for being a pro gamer. He's not on EG to win games. I don't think your argument has any depth, because he's already getting paid for being the team captain, team marketer, and team caster. He plays right now to expand his opportunities and make possible a better future.
EG just needs to get rid of LzGamer. I'd say get rid of Machine too, but he's kinda part of the marketing family right now. Even though he's not good, he's important to the team. LzGamer is just worthless though. He's BM, he's not good enough to compete at a decent level, and he's not active in EG's marketing. He has pretty much no worth.

If EG were serious about winning championships though, They'd have to completely get rid of Lz and Machine, and they'd have to focus DeMuslim more on smaller tournaments first. IdrA is pretty essential to the team, but he's going to be losing for a while longer before anything changes.
Kill Lz and Machine, and recruit a huge name, and EG would be able to shape up pretty well. Invest a bunch into a 2nd huge player, and they'd be a top GSTL team.

As outlined before by others, I think EG want to keep Incontrol for various non-player related reasons. As a result, I feel as well that Machine and Lz are still on board because they are Incontrol's friends. Incontrol himself probably is feeling increasingly marginalised and isolate with these "big" name players - and honestly much better players - consistently being recruited, so it is probably therefore in his own agenda and best interests to keep as many friends around as he can in his corner. So I don't know, I do think EG aren't particularly interested in keeping 2 players who aren't showing any sort of results or improvement and are on the older age scale but for the sake of Incontrol's happiness, who is a big enough personality to be involved in e-sports without EG, are willing to keep them onboard.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 13 2012 07:54 GMT
#227
On June 13 2012 16:50 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 16:25 opterown wrote:
On June 13 2012 16:24 SniXSniPe wrote:
My brother said Monster is pretty comparable to DRG, especially in regards to ZvT. He was saying his ZvT may just be as good as DRG/about the same level from what he saw when he lived in the MVP house.

your brother lived in the MVP house?? wow


Yeah I'm pretty sure Snipe is trimaster's brother? Either way snixsnipe smashed a bunch of kids at this last MLG, I'll take his word for Monster being pretty damn good.

oh never knew that, pretty cool haha
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
June 13 2012 08:00 GMT
#228
embarrassing result for EG, you knew it was going to be bad when idra started streaming at the same time trying to draw viewers away from seeing the all kill - amazing play from monster, congrats
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 13 2012 08:06 GMT
#229
Against the 5 best players from EG. Sexy play by Monster.
I had a good night of sleep.
AzureD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States320 Posts
June 13 2012 08:11 GMT
#230
What is sad is that Monster did not even play that well. He simply played in a competent manner without any good micro or macro. Just good decisions and decent positions. It is just that EG played abysmally bad.

For example. Last game Huk knew the Mutalisks where coming well ahead of time yet he let them do enourmous damage to him anyway. Monster did not even control them especially well and wasted tons of units inefficiently but it did not matter. Real point where Huk lost I would say is when he lost his Templar Archives which where very critical. Replacing it by that point was too late. Huk played with far superior battlefield micro but it did not matter when Monster's army was in the right places at the right time.

RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
June 13 2012 09:11 GMT
#231
EG should definitely pick up Monster as their spons... I mean player.
Someone call down the Thunder?
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
June 13 2012 10:16 GMT
#232
On June 13 2012 02:30 Kamwah wrote:
Sorry EG but this is a no brainer.

It won't be a roflstomp though as Puma and JYP are probably available.

Also the EG guys did well in the recent MLG.


so much for this xD
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
June 13 2012 12:50 GMT
#233
all the mercenaries (except Idra) line-up and gets eaten by a monster
-Terran-
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
June 13 2012 12:55 GMT
#234
EG should do really good, until DRG and Genius are played.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 13 2012 12:58 GMT
#235
On June 13 2012 02:31 quannguyen wrote:
Calling a Monster or Finale all-kill

Jokes aside, this will probably be close, but MVP will take this. I'll go with 5-3 ^^


wow, i thought you said you were joking.

I must say i am kind of surprised that eg couldn't get a single kill in this match, but i hope they do better in the losers bracket.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
June 13 2012 14:00 GMT
#236
On June 13 2012 16:24 SniXSniPe wrote:
My brother said Monster is pretty comparable to DRG, especially in regards to ZvT. He was saying his ZvT may just be as good as DRG/about the same level from what he saw when he lived in the MVP house.


Your brother is quoting DRG
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 13 2012 14:05 GMT
#237
On June 13 2012 18:11 RaiKageRyu wrote:
EG should definitely pick up Monster as their spons... I mean player.


Oh i see what you did there.XD
Play your best
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
June 13 2012 15:06 GMT
#238
Monster make the most impressive run of all player in the last MLG, look at the bracket.

He play and win more game than any other player in the tournament.

he trully is a monster, deserve more credit !

LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
June 13 2012 15:06 GMT
#239
On June 13 2012 15:18 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2012 12:58 YourGoodFriend wrote:
On June 13 2012 10:36 tree.hugger wrote:
Huh, I was talking to Liquid'KingstonHyperX and Liquid'BigfootNetworks about this match, and we all agreed EG needs a dedicated coach. And a Korean training house, don't forget the Korean training house.


Honestly I love Geoff (iNcontroL) but I think his best role for the team would be to step back and coach. He is a really good coach and a great motivator, he already kind of acts as the team dad so why not make that his permanent role at EG. (also he should still cast cause he is a really good host and caster)

~YourFriend

Honestly, it may seem different, but iNcontroL does not get paid his salary for being a pro gamer. He's not on EG to win games. I don't think your argument has any depth, because he's already getting paid for being the team captain, team marketer, and team caster. He plays right now to expand his opportunities and make possible a better future.
EG just needs to get rid of LzGamer. I'd say get rid of Machine too, but he's kinda part of the marketing family right now. Even though he's not good, he's important to the team. LzGamer is just worthless though. He's BM, he's not good enough to compete at a decent level, and he's not active in EG's marketing. He has pretty much no worth.

If EG were serious about winning championships though, They'd have to completely get rid of Lz and Machine, and they'd have to focus DeMuslim more on smaller tournaments first. IdrA is pretty essential to the team, but he's going to be losing for a while longer before anything changes.
Kill Lz and Machine, and recruit a huge name, and EG would be able to shape up pretty well. Invest a bunch into a 2nd huge player, and they'd be a top GSTL team.


I'm sorry but I don't think you understood what I was saying, I was stating that Geoff already does a lot of work outside of playing (hence the team dad line) and thats what hurts him being a pro gamer. I think he should Officially change his Major focus to team coach, this does not mean he has to stop playing (choya) but that his main focus would be coaching. Its more of a title and mentality change more than anything (from what I understand, obviously I don't know the EG guys and have no inside knowledge of how they work or should work) this is just my thoughts on how EG could improve.

TLDR: Geoff change his title to coach and help the players EG already has to perform at a more consistent rate.

~YourFriend
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zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 13 2012 15:08 GMT
#240
Monster is really, really good.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
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