So he can lose to treme next? Nope. JYP has the best chance vs line and an okay shot at treme. Puma has an okay shot at line and a better chance vs treme than JYP (imo). So I guess JYP is the right call.

Shellshock

United States97277 Posts

May 30 2012 11:46 GMT

#1751

On May 30 2012 20:45 Bluelightz wrote:
I think Ryung shouldve been sent out, much better chances of not being sniped if he wins.

Does Zenex have any terran left? They have a strong toss meaning Ryung is more likely to be sniped than Jyp

Lyter

United Kingdom2145 Posts

May 30 2012 11:46 GMT

#1752

Lets go zenex, realise your destiny as ultra kingpins of the universe

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

May 30 2012 11:46 GMT

#1753

On May 30 2012 20:44 Naphal wrote:
seriously?

first lifes streak ends because he suicides his infestors?
now puzzles streak ends because he had no hold position zealot?

meh, sloppy plays even from the dominant players... maybe i am just pampered by the last fierce GSL.

I think you have to expect a few more mistakes in the GSTL.

Lose a map and you're done, you can only really prep for one race or map or player in advance, and you have no idea what anyone is likely to do when you encounter them because players may have prepared an intentional snipe build for you.

There's a lot of pressure and a lot more uncertainty than the individual seasons.

Soyuz

Hong Kong996 Posts

May 30 2012 11:46 GMT

#1754

On May 30 2012 20:45 Miah121 wrote:

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Then they just send XTREME to snipe him.

All treme would do is chronoboost his second stalker and shut down Ryung's 1rax FE

cablesc

United States1540 Posts

May 30 2012 11:46 GMT

#1755

JYP is probably the best choice. You need someone that can take down a zerg and then probably Treme (Protoss). Unless zenex has a hidden Terran gosu on the bench, this is about as good a matchup as Slayers can expect here.

Time to see if this EG partnership can pay off.

MrCon

France29748 Posts

May 30 2012 11:46 GMT

#1756

On May 30 2012 20:31 Plexa wrote:

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Harrier kept trying to end the game, but played pretty sloppy. I mean, no concussive shells, super late 2-2 (in comparison to his 1-1), no fourth, kept having zealots attack his third (go clean up the pylon??), kept getting ghosts fedback... One amazing move doesn't win the game unfortunately.

yeah. Bad ghost vs ht micro, no obs scan (a vital skill toi have in TvP), he also lost sloppily his 2 first vikings like 5 seconds before the colossi arrived. All that adds up.

Clefairy

1570 Posts

May 30 2012 11:46 GMT

#1757

Just put out a Terran next and Zenex wins

cythaze

830 Posts

May 30 2012 11:46 GMT

#1758

I was hoping to see Ryung next, so I could see him playing vs treme :/

pdd

Australia9933 Posts

May 30 2012 11:47 GMT

#1759

On May 30 2012 20:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:

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Does Zenex have any terran left? They have a strong toss meaning Ryung is more likely to be sniped than Jyp

Ryoo, Cutter, Sparta and JJUN. Some of them are not on the bench today, but I'm not sure. They're not as good as Harrier I think.

Embir

Poland567 Posts

May 30 2012 11:47 GMT

#1760

On May 30 2012 20:45 Plexa wrote:

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On May 30 2012 20:43 Thrombozyt wrote:

On May 30 2012 20:39 Plexa wrote:

On May 30 2012 20:36 Thrombozyt wrote:

On May 30 2012 20:31 Plexa wrote:

On May 30 2012 20:30 Thrombozyt wrote:

On May 30 2012 20:22 Scila wrote:
Protoss 3 base so ridic hard to break : / even with that upgrade adv

Well... 2/1 upgrade advantage (2-2 vs 0-1), the correct AoE counter (ghost vs templar) and you cannot break a protoss if the toss defends well.

Puzzle had excellent templar micro, no doubt. Still, this level of micro is what is required from each Terran in GM. Compare that to Ganzi sitting on top of the natural ramp on CK, with a nice concave with ghosts and vikings and Vines just amoves through and wins.

I don't deny, that Harrier's control was sloppy and he was indecisive. Puzzle defended really really well as he is known for it. That's why I compared the flipside, where a protoss showed even worse control and still just rolled through.

Also there was a carpet EMP when Puzzle killed the sensor tower.. that should have been the moment where Puzzle got crushed, but 2ish collossi were enough to melt everything. Compare that to a terran getting caught out and eats 2 storms...

But when you are so marine heavy Colossi are super good. 2 Colossus are enough to kill a stimmed marine (that hasn't been healed) in one shot, thus why they are so effective. Needed to pull back and mass up vikings at that point. Better than trying to rush in and end the game

He could have killed the 3rd nexus and run, but his viking production would have been too slow to stop the advancing protoss army. Also he was committed due to no 4th.

No doubt there were mistakes and no doubt that Puzzle defended very well. Hell, which coach is so crazy to send out a Terran vs Puzzle and pick cloud kindom?

Then again, all I"m saying is that I have seen worse plays by protoss that ended in rolling through terrans.

No arguments here, Terran in general are really struggling vs the colossus switch. Not sure what the answer is, but I'm sure there is one!

Sure there is... some patch from Blizz.