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Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
May 27 2012 05:17 GMT
#421
On May 27 2012 14:15 paintfive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:13 o[twist] wrote:
bw person here, from my perspective it looked like fanta had been doing almost all of the damage all game, but people in here seemed to think he was losing at several points... where was he going long that made him behind at those points?


Refusing to make turrets and saving all his energy for scans. fantasy had it won after he killed BByong's nat I think. But he kept overcommitting instead of macroing up. Insane micro from both players though.

Its perfectly fine to save Scans in mid game tvt
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
May 27 2012 05:17 GMT
#422
hd stream down?
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 27 2012 05:17 GMT
#423
On May 27 2012 14:15 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:14 Ruscour wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:13 ZenithM wrote:
Ok guys, I'm reassured now, Fantasy got at least one hell of a stutter step. That's a good start, I know another Terran who started by stutter stepping marines.

except he stutters the medivacs too which reduces time they can heal

Hmm, every pro terran does that.
I agree that it's suboptimal micro, but if you kite only with your marines, the medivacs start trailing behind and are killed off anyway.

not in that situation, and most progamers don't do it. it's situational whether you move them or not, but doing it like that is suboptimal for sure, it's just a ctrl+click and you're away
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
May 27 2012 05:17 GMT
#424
That was possibly the sloppiest sc2 game i've ever seen, but it was pretty fun all the same

Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 27 2012 05:18 GMT
#425
On May 27 2012 14:14 KalWarkov wrote:
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On May 27 2012 14:13 Odal wrote:
I fucking love this. Perfect macro, perfect micro, TERRIBLE decision making. It's adorable.


macro and micro were so far from perfect in this game, i would probably outmacro them with terran ^^

lol
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
May 27 2012 05:18 GMT
#426
On May 27 2012 14:15 Lann555 wrote:
Fantasy showing an insane amount of potential. Just a little rough around the edges, which is understandable given that he barely has any experience with Terran and he is also practicing BW at the same time.

Some of you are way too critical of these guys and should really rewatch the earlier GSL seasons. They were so unbelievably fuckign worse then anything we see here.

AND FUCK YEAH FANTASY!


I personally liked Light vs Turn and Sea vs Skyhigh more . There game seemed more refined .
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 27 2012 05:18 GMT
#427
On May 27 2012 14:16 o[twist] wrote:
thanks for the explanations guys, i'm trying my best to give this sc2 thing a chance and that game certainly looked exciting haha


I don't want to be cynical, but you are better of watching the GSL, where there are less PvPs and more high-level exciting games.
MMA: The true King of Wings
smallerk
Profile Joined October 2010
897 Posts
May 27 2012 05:18 GMT
#428
On May 27 2012 14:15 FuRong wrote:
Awesome game, I love back and forth low economy wars in TvT.

You mean Mid Master NA TvT?

It's okay to say it, they are getting better;and that game was more exciting to watch than 60% of gsl code S
Never Regret anything because at one time it was exactly what you wanted.
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
May 27 2012 05:19 GMT
#429
On May 27 2012 14:15 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:13 o[twist] wrote:
bw person here, from my perspective it looked like fanta had been doing almost all of the damage all game, but people in here seemed to think he was losing at several points... where was he going long that made him behind at those points?


he shouldve build 2 turrents per mineralline, like he kept losing all his scvs the whole game long :D
wouldve easily won 15 minutes earlier with just slightly better banshee defense^^

although its very, very uncommon to build banshees the whole game long oO


One raven would have done the trick. But even GSL terrans don't seem to want to build ravens.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 27 2012 05:19 GMT
#430
On May 27 2012 14:14 rysecake wrote:
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On May 27 2012 14:14 KalWarkov wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:13 Odal wrote:
I fucking love this. Perfect macro, perfect micro, TERRIBLE decision making. It's adorable.


macro and micro were so far from perfect in this game, i would probably outmacro them with terran ^^


haha get real scrub


first of all, there is no reason to call anyone a scrub without knowing who you are talking to.
and 2nd, any1 who says that anything in this game was "perfect" is just a huge fanboy who probably just watched 3 sc2 games total.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
May 27 2012 05:19 GMT
#431
On May 27 2012 14:15 paintfive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:13 o[twist] wrote:
bw person here, from my perspective it looked like fanta had been doing almost all of the damage all game, but people in here seemed to think he was losing at several points... where was he going long that made him behind at those points?


Refusing to make turrets and saving all his energy for scans. fantasy had it won after he killed BByong's nat I think. But he kept overcommitting instead of macroing up. Insane micro from both players though.


Like the insane Banshee micro? lol. Or just runnung all SCV's in stimmed marines with no backup? I don't doubt their abilities, they just can't apply them very good to SC2 yet.
[Aot]_Aether
Profile Joined May 2012
United States89 Posts
May 27 2012 05:19 GMT
#432
Just joining now. What has happened so far?
Tell me builds to help me win, please. :)
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 27 2012 05:19 GMT
#433
On May 27 2012 14:17 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:15 ZenithM wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:14 Ruscour wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:13 ZenithM wrote:
Ok guys, I'm reassured now, Fantasy got at least one hell of a stutter step. That's a good start, I know another Terran who started by stutter stepping marines.

except he stutters the medivacs too which reduces time they can heal

Hmm, every pro terran does that.
I agree that it's suboptimal micro, but if you kite only with your marines, the medivacs start trailing behind and are killed off anyway.

not in that situation, and most progamers don't do it. it's situational whether you move them or not, but doing it like that is suboptimal for sure, it's just a ctrl+click and you're away

Yeah I know, but I don't think it was a bad decision in this case. There were blue marines chasing him behind the SCVs, they would have gotten the medivac had he only moved the marines. But maybe we're talking about another part of the game.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
May 27 2012 05:19 GMT
#434
On May 27 2012 14:18 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:16 o[twist] wrote:
thanks for the explanations guys, i'm trying my best to give this sc2 thing a chance and that game certainly looked exciting haha


I don't want to be cynical, but you are better of watching the GSL, where there are less PvPs and more high-level exciting games.


i'll stick with the joint PL for now but i appreciate the thought
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
May 27 2012 05:19 GMT
#435
Their macro was perfect, but granted they both had less than 30 scvs all game lol.

But damn that marine micro from Fantasy.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 27 2012 05:20 GMT
#436
OGN really needs to just put up their own Twitch/Ownd streams like they do for LoL. Even the EsportsTV stream has no sound.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
May 27 2012 05:20 GMT
#437
Poll: Who will win in a SC2 BO7 between Fantasy and LastShadow?

Fantasy (34)
 
68%

LastShadow (16)
 
32%

50 total votes

Your vote: Who will win in a SC2 BO7 between Fantasy and LastShadow?

(Vote): Fantasy
(Vote): LastShadow



Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 27 2012 05:20 GMT
#438
On May 27 2012 14:19 cablesc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:15 KalWarkov wrote:
On May 27 2012 14:13 o[twist] wrote:
bw person here, from my perspective it looked like fanta had been doing almost all of the damage all game, but people in here seemed to think he was losing at several points... where was he going long that made him behind at those points?


he shouldve build 2 turrents per mineralline, like he kept losing all his scvs the whole game long :D
wouldve easily won 15 minutes earlier with just slightly better banshee defense^^

although its very, very uncommon to build banshees the whole game long oO


One raven would have done the trick. But even GSL terrans don't seem to want to build ravens.


1 raven doesnt do the trick when there is banshees harassing everywhere^^ turrents are way better for that purpose. although a raven is never wrong in tvt simply for airfights (pdd viking v viking for air vision)
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
May 27 2012 05:20 GMT
#439
give them time geezus, especially the SKT guys had like no time to practice this game.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
May 27 2012 05:20 GMT
#440
On May 27 2012 14:18 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 14:15 Lann555 wrote:
Fantasy showing an insane amount of potential. Just a little rough around the edges, which is understandable given that he barely has any experience with Terran and he is also practicing BW at the same time.

Some of you are way too critical of these guys and should really rewatch the earlier GSL seasons. They were so unbelievably fuckign worse then anything we see here.

AND FUCK YEAH FANTASY!


I personally liked Light vs Turn and Sea vs Skyhigh more . There game seemed more refined .


True. Skyhigh looked better TvT, but Fantasy never really looks refined. The weird/offbeat games are part of his strength imho, so I'm happy to see it carries over to Sc2
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