EPT[Code S] "The Chosen 8" 2012 GSL Season 2 Day 2 - Page 90
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Pyre
United States1940 Posts
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DirtyCash
Canada189 Posts
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Alak
Sweden380 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:31 Diavlo wrote: Would you rather see a TvP finals at this point? If MVP can beat Parting, then yes. I would love to see a TvP finals with a terran who can beat Parting. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:30 Derez wrote: I'm currently rooting for a MVP victory, based on nothing but 2 raxes. (And T's played terrible today) Yeah, 4x Bunker Rush. Still better than 2 base colossus timings. | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:31 windsupernova wrote: Hmmm, delicious Terran Tears. After all the whinning Terran has suffered since launch I expected Terrans to be more classy. It seems thats not the case It's not like Protoss were classy when they were winning nothing. | ||
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gideel
1503 Posts
Early game aggression is almost completely negleted by forcefields unless the protoss does a huge blunder and lets the terran army fight them head on. Once the protoss forcefields and eats your army alive early, you are behind the whole game and fight uphill for the rest of the match, which is why EVERY terran is tentative about engaging early game. This leaves the only early aggression available right now to downright cheesy proxy all-ins that either win or lose you the game at the 10 minute mark ala mvp-nani. Then you have the toss totally control the mid-late game by choosing to go templar OR colossus. Protoss completely dictates the pace and you have a situation where: A. The protoss makes Colossus and the terran makes ghost -> terran gets crushed B. The protoss makes Templar and the terran makes vikings -> terran gets crushed again If the terran guesses correctly or scouts, then it becomes an even match depending on positioning/micro, but at no point in time does the terran actually dictate the flow of the match by going for a particular build that does not involve an all-in since their main composition is MMM regardless which the protoss already prepares for. Hopefully HoTs allows a better variation of unit compositions to make the matchup more interesting. This is not a balance whine but there really is a fundemental problem with viking/ghost & colossus/templar. | ||
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
STartales Final incoming guys, better prepare for some more PvP | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:31 Diavlo wrote: Would you rather see a TvP finals at this point? If a day contains nothing but PvP i think the viewership will easily be half of what it'd be for a TvP, alhough TvP is cheese or die. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
People will unfortunately use this for balance whine despite the players who lost made mistakes whilst the players who won played great. Kinda like when it was GomTvT... All the terrans were just playing great | ||
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:27 Logros wrote: Why didn't he just base-trade again there? 1 spot on the map for squirtle vs 3 for Taeja. The thing is basetrades are so rare and always slightly different so its very difficult to actually know what to do or where you stand. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:31 Diavlo wrote: Would you rather see a TvP finals at this point? Well, if it ends up being a PvP GOM better schedule like 5 other attractions to take up the time. | ||
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iAmiAnC
United Kingdom317 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:31 Fubi wrote: This is exactly why Terran needs to SCV all in or Proxy cheese Its also exactly why TvP is an awful matchup where the outcome is usually a foregone conclusion if you go towards the late game on an even footing. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:31 Diavlo wrote: Would you rather see a TvP finals at this point? In all honesty the only TvP worth watching at all is MKP playing TvP. MVP does alot of timings, that while interesting are not entertaining at all really. Protoss in TvP is just...well personally it's not fun at all for me to watch. Too many really stupid ways that they win instead of the wearing down that you see in other matchups. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:29 ramon wrote: 8 zealots, 1 cannon and 2 templar with 2 storm each on a 2 forcefield ramp would like to disagree with you he had no obs, terran could have dropped into his old main then stay at the ramp to the natural and block off the army. Afterwards 2 marauders to snipe the probes and deny mining. Base trade impossible, since the terran is at 3 locations. But instead Taeje was to scared to scan and lose some eco and rather played totally blind, which cost him the game. | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:30 Derez wrote: I'm currently rooting for a MVP victory, based on nothing but 2 raxes. (And T's played terrible today) but if mvp does, we get 10seconds increased buildtime on raxes <.< | ||
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:31 Diavlo wrote: Would you rather see a TvP finals at this point? I would much rather see MVP cheese the hell out of whoever else makes the final than a PvP. | ||
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Spiner
United States360 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:30 Doublemint wrote: A good day it was  But I am astonished how Taeja let the last game slip out of his hands - baserace should have favored him quite a bit. How would the basetrade favor taeja? Squirtle had the better army and has forcfields to block ramps. | ||
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Jaegeru
United Kingdom676 Posts
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CursivE
Australia317 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:32 bittman wrote: If MVP can beat Parting, then yes. I would love to see a TvP finals with a terran who can beat Parting. Does one of those still exist? | ||
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