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On May 05 2012 08:11 hanlonbro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 08:05 Jakkerr wrote:On May 05 2012 07:15 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 07:09 mememolly wrote:
I'd probably buy a pass to watch this but idra has shown me that he never takes these things seriously, so I'm not giving him or NASL my money, sorry guys Why would he show his state-of-the-art builds in a petty little show match that means nothing? He gets $500 regardless. Not only that by he gets flown out by NASL to a bar where fans will buy him alcohol? Sounds good to me. IdrA can probably show Stephano or Ret level mechanics and win regardless, he doesn't have to unleash the Grack inside. Wow you are a pretty severe case of fanboyism man. Sure Idra has good macro, but mechanics are less important in SCII then they were in BW. SCII is more about making perfect decisions and scouting, which Idra seems to be lacking at the moment to be at the very top. Because he's in a slump. He can't think right therefore he can't make the perfect decisions. I remember when he got to Ro8 GSL. Edit. Forgot it until now but which foreign Zerg beat LG-IM_Mvp in Iron Squid? HINT: + Show Spoiler +
IdrA beat MVP when MVP played with his left hand only.
Get real lol, I'm thinking you're trying too hard to troll everyone in here lol
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On May 05 2012 06:14 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 05:58 CeriseCherries wrote:On May 05 2012 05:43 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 05 2012 04:46 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 03:39 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 04 2012 14:56 hanlonbro wrote:
IdrA will win 4-0. Although Morrow knows Zerg and practices with Bigs but IdrA does have best foreign Zerg mechanics. Plz explain why you think that and define Zerg mechanics? He never misses injects, and has perfect macro. Like EVERY OTHER progamer has said, it's his mindset. I'd put IdrA's mechanics on par with DRG's. DRG just doesn't go on tilt and that is the difference. Goto Youtupe and watch Stephano vs Idra in Korea and you can see how many injects Idra miss. Those games really hightlight the difference in macro. Idra dont got very good mechanics and hes macro are avarege. everyone can spam drones but mechanics also aplies when to make drones and when to make units. people know what mechanics means... and its pretty much consensus that IdrA has very very good mechanics... so in terms of that game several things should be noted: 1. mutas are a lot more micro intensive so idra should be a little behind on injects 2. that game was not won/lost off macro -_- what wound up happening is that stephano defended mutas without taking much damage, built up a bunch of queens to defend the hatches too, and then just attacked idra with more roaches and INFESTORS and queens agaist a limited amount of roaches + some blings + mutas... IdrA also got a little greedy taking the gold and presumably would have switched into infestor + roach production at that point once established. he got hit before that, and so his army, much of which was invested in mutas, didnt have enough killing power There's nothing exceptional about IdrA's mechanics these days. Top foreigner Zergs all have his macro. His army control is mediocre. The one thing he had - great muta control - he thinks is an out of date play style. The one thing going for him is his decent infestor control. That he has over Ret, but that's about it.
Idra got decent Infestor control? :O Every time I see him play Infestor/Ling (In tournaments) he a-moves them into death. If that's better than Ret's Infestor control.. 
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On May 05 2012 12:37 hanlonbro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 09:51 ibo422 wrote:
hanlonbro, you are entertaining for sure. Do you get paid orso? Just curious.. I am merely giving out an objective answer as to who I think will win. You are accusing me of being a fanboy with no support. I am stating facts about idra. Perfect mechanics. Perfect decision making on a good day. What has morrow won? Idra has an IEM and an MLG. Based on that, idra will 4-0. No fanboy, just objective perspective. You kids are the ones making me out as a fanboy. I am just an ESPORTS fan looking for good games to watch while saying on a public forum who I think will win. Idra has proven that he can win championships. Morrow has not.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever read on TL. Go back to watching the teletubbies.
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On May 05 2012 16:45 Neelia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 06:14 Azarkon wrote:On May 05 2012 05:58 CeriseCherries wrote:On May 05 2012 05:43 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 05 2012 04:46 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 03:39 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 04 2012 14:56 hanlonbro wrote:
IdrA will win 4-0. Although Morrow knows Zerg and practices with Bigs but IdrA does have best foreign Zerg mechanics. Plz explain why you think that and define Zerg mechanics? He never misses injects, and has perfect macro. Like EVERY OTHER progamer has said, it's his mindset. I'd put IdrA's mechanics on par with DRG's. DRG just doesn't go on tilt and that is the difference. Goto Youtupe and watch Stephano vs Idra in Korea and you can see how many injects Idra miss. Those games really hightlight the difference in macro. Idra dont got very good mechanics and hes macro are avarege. everyone can spam drones but mechanics also aplies when to make drones and when to make units. people know what mechanics means... and its pretty much consensus that IdrA has very very good mechanics... so in terms of that game several things should be noted: 1. mutas are a lot more micro intensive so idra should be a little behind on injects 2. that game was not won/lost off macro -_- what wound up happening is that stephano defended mutas without taking much damage, built up a bunch of queens to defend the hatches too, and then just attacked idra with more roaches and INFESTORS and queens agaist a limited amount of roaches + some blings + mutas... IdrA also got a little greedy taking the gold and presumably would have switched into infestor + roach production at that point once established. he got hit before that, and so his army, much of which was invested in mutas, didnt have enough killing power There's nothing exceptional about IdrA's mechanics these days. Top foreigner Zergs all have his macro. His army control is mediocre. The one thing he had - great muta control - he thinks is an out of date play style. The one thing going for him is his decent infestor control. That he has over Ret, but that's about it. Idra got decent Infestor control? :O Every time I see him play Infestor/Ling (In tournaments) he a-moves them into death. If that's better than Ret's Infestor control..
Agreed, Idra has the worst infestor control by far, of any pro zerg player I have seen. He never attempts to bring his infestors back after he fungals, he just proceeds to walk them into the opponents army. Does he not realise that their energy regenerates? It's like he thinks they are only good for one fungal and thats it..
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What time will people show up for this? Is there any need to arrive early?
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On May 06 2012 12:12 WestToast wrote:
What time will people show up for this? Is there any need to arrive early?
Doors open at 4PM Pacific 
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Idra is probably like "sweet! free ticket and $500 for 6pooling."
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wow great answers from idra ^_^
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I would love to watch this but I just can't afford to get disappointed by Idra who will most likely lose first couple of games then 5min-GG next ones. :/
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On May 05 2012 15:43 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2012 08:11 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 08:05 Jakkerr wrote:On May 05 2012 07:15 hanlonbro wrote:On May 05 2012 07:09 mememolly wrote:
I'd probably buy a pass to watch this but idra has shown me that he never takes these things seriously, so I'm not giving him or NASL my money, sorry guys Why would he show his state-of-the-art builds in a petty little show match that means nothing? He gets $500 regardless. Not only that by he gets flown out by NASL to a bar where fans will buy him alcohol? Sounds good to me. IdrA can probably show Stephano or Ret level mechanics and win regardless, he doesn't have to unleash the Grack inside. Wow you are a pretty severe case of fanboyism man. Sure Idra has good macro, but mechanics are less important in SCII then they were in BW. SCII is more about making perfect decisions and scouting, which Idra seems to be lacking at the moment to be at the very top. Because he's in a slump. He can't think right therefore he can't make the perfect decisions. I remember when he got to Ro8 GSL. Edit. Forgot it until now but which foreign Zerg beat LG-IM_Mvp in Iron Squid? HINT: + Show Spoiler + IdrA beat MVP when MVP played with his left hand only. Get real lol, I'm thinking you're trying too hard to troll everyone in here lol
yea because MVP doesnt give a shit about multiple thousand dollar tourneys and plays with one hand when his wrists plural are hurting -_- i mean you cant even run right to wrists as an excuse cause of GSL MVP; lag is probably the best reason, but that doesn't mean IdrA doesnt have good days
that being said
the fighting here is like either "4-0 IdrA he's really fucking good right now" or "im goign to delegitimize everything one of the most decorated foreigners has ever done"... whereas it should meet in the middle at "I hope to see some really good games"
even if you dont like idra, why cant you settle for hoping to see good games, wouldn't you rather see a tense 7 game set than 4-0 in the first place?
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I think Idra is going to win.
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Why isn't Morrow playing Zerg? I thought he switched back to Zerg from Terran again
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On May 06 2012 13:57 Venomsflame wrote:
Why isn't Morrow playing Zerg? I thought he switched back to Zerg from Terran again
Um...are you thinking of TLO? Or did a very long string of strange coincidences make you miss all of Morrow's vZ matchups? 
Morrow always plays Terran against Zerg.
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The probability of IdrA winning this showmatch correlates with the number of 6 pools.
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no free stream.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm shucks.
thank god it's only an idra showmatch.
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On May 06 2012 12:49 vnlegend wrote:
Idra is probably like "sweet! free ticket and $500 for 6pooling."
On May 06 2012 13:50 Nethermind wrote:
6pools inc.
On May 06 2012 15:30 Shadow_Dog wrote:
The probability of IdrA winning this showmatch correlates with the number of 6 pools.
these never get old. you guys are all hilarious
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I think it'll be close games. Morrow is a very strong player. I think this will mostly depend on if IdrA shows up mentally. His ladder games havn't been all that impressive but he also says that he doesn't care about that as much. So the question here then will be does he care enough to win this or try to win this?
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I feel like this is so expensive for NASL to do... is it coming from the other $100,000 that was reserved for this season?? Not complaining, just saying!
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EPT
