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On April 28 2012 11:03 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 11:01 Benjamin99 wrote:
Very nice by Sen really great comeback thought it was over when a million blue flame helions was killing his drones Rain had it won but decided he was going to sit back and build a mech army while Sen mass expanded. Sen handled the hellions poorly - it was a great comeback but all he had to do was pull his drones up to the main and block his ramp and then he's way ahead mid game.
I don't really agree. I mean Rain probably could've done some timing to just crush sen, but I feel he really took his lead to the lategame. I mean Bitterdam didn't really touch on it, but Rain was almost maxed on mech with great upgrades against tier 1.5 zerg army. Rain just should've gone a bit more tank heavy and obviously needed to spread/be sieged and he would've done pretty well I think.
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On April 28 2012 11:06 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 11:03 Azarkon wrote:On April 28 2012 11:01 Benjamin99 wrote:
Very nice by Sen really great comeback thought it was over when a million blue flame helions was killing his drones Rain had it won but decided he was going to sit back and build a mech army while Sen mass expanded. Sen handled the hellions poorly - it was a great comeback but all he had to do was pull his drones up to the main and block his ramp and then he's way ahead mid game. I don't really agree. I mean Rain probably could've done some timing to just crush sen, but I feel he really took his lead to the lategame. I mean Bitterdam didn't really touch on it, but Rain was almost maxed on mech with great upgrades against tier 1.5 zerg army. Rain just should've gone a bit more tank heavy and obviously needed to spread/be sieged and he would've done pretty well I think.
Thing is, Sen was on 5 bases and is able to afford losing one to crush that army. He didn't end up sacrificing one because Rain engaged badly. Rain stopped upgrading at 2/2 as well. He's not that great in a macro game. He knows that, we know that, but he decided to go for a macro game and got owned.
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Holy shit Mana that was MC forcefield
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Rain macro is fine, look his games in the Korean Weekly. The problem was that Thor are not very good roaches. They are fine if there are a few roaches but against a zerg maxed on roaches, they are trash. If he had more tanks, the roaches would have evaporated.
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Oh my goodness, that was a brutal ending to the game.
Sick forcefields though.
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wow that was completely a idra gg lol
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Those forcefields were fantastic. I wonder how many roaches were caught in there.
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On April 28 2012 11:16 oogieogie wrote:
wow that was completely a idra gg lol
Absolutely not. TLO was up like 15 food but with largely roaches. When P is at like 120~ food like Mana was, a mass roach guy really wants to be maxed. That plus the hatch that died. TLO never wins from that spot.
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On April 28 2012 11:17 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 11:16 oogieogie wrote:
wow that was completely a idra gg lol Absolutely not. TLO was up like 15 food but with largely roaches. When P is at like 120~ food like Mana was, a mass roach guy really wants to be maxed. That plus the hatch that died. TLO never wins from that spot.
Cmon if idra gg'd at that spot then everyone would be complaining about it. TLO still had 2 hatchs, and like 14 roachs on the way. I mean hell he could have at least tried to hold back the counterattack if it happened.
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On April 28 2012 11:16 oogieogie wrote:
wow that was completely a idra gg lol
not at all. his drone count actually was pretty low. A better zerg would have around 60+ by 8 min but he only had around 55ish.
he pushed out randomly and lost everything for almost just a few stalkers and a few roaches
he would lose to a counter attack because he didn't kill any colossus or just lose in a macro game
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Mr. Bitter forgot the mantra of 6 year olds all across North America: First the Worst, Second the Best !
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On April 28 2012 11:19 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 11:16 oogieogie wrote:
wow that was completely a idra gg lol not at all. his drone count actually was pretty low. A better zerg would have around 60+ by 8 min but he only had around 55ish. he pushed out randomly and lost everything for almost just a few stalkers and a few roaches he would lose to a counter attack because he didn't kill any colossus or just lose in a macro game
see this is what everyone hates though about idra..would the protoss have counter atked or just macroed up? I mean people complain when idra doesn't try or hold out till last atk, but for TLO its fine?
of course he would be behind, but he could have tried which is what everyone says about idra.
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In my defense, I dont agree with most claims of Idra GG, even by Idra himself. Yeah TLO probably shoulda tried. But realistically he never wins that game, especially since (imo) Mana is the stronger player in the first place.
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sorry for stupid question, but who is commentating?
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On April 28 2012 11:23 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 11:19 ETisME wrote:On April 28 2012 11:16 oogieogie wrote:
wow that was completely a idra gg lol not at all. his drone count actually was pretty low. A better zerg would have around 60+ by 8 min but he only had around 55ish. he pushed out randomly and lost everything for almost just a few stalkers and a few roaches he would lose to a counter attack because he didn't kill any colossus or just lose in a macro game see this is what everyone hates though about idra..would the protoss have counter atked or just macroed up? I mean people complain when idra doesn't try or hold out till last atk, but for TLO its fine? of course he would be behind, but he could have tried which is what everyone says about idra.
that's because people are stupid and can't read the game properly.
just to let you know, I am not one of them
idra gg to me is more like that game against HuK
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On April 28 2012 11:32 Censured wrote:
sorry for stupid question, but who is commentating?
mrbitter/rotterdam
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YES TLO FIGHTIN!
That was a SICK Game 2. Sick good. Sick awesome. VERY well-played by TLO.
Although, I might miss his epic beard if he continues to win games.
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EPT
