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On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it.  Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live.
Its always nice getting confirmation though.
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On April 28 2012 13:19 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live. Its always nice getting confirmation though.
them saying its live is confirmation. if they were lying, players would say so.
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Series like this make me sure huk will be back in code A within 1-2 seasons for sure. He's damn near cheese proof which is what breaks so many other code A deserving players who slip down into that quagmire.
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On April 28 2012 13:19 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live. Its always nice getting confirmation though.
They said on stream it was being played live and confirmed it in this thread. What more do you want?
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On April 28 2012 13:21 TheAngryZergling wrote:
Series like this make me sure huk will be back in code A within 1-2 seasons for sure. He's damn near cheese proof which is what breaks so many other code A deserving players who slip down into that quagmire.
Which is why HuK got knocked out of Code A by a cheese? Ganzi proxying a CC is nothing special, everyone knows he does it in TvP.
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On April 28 2012 13:16 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:11 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Ganzi has been pretty terrible recently (by Korean Terran standards, obviously).
He always relied on a lot of gimmicks, but his standard game was pretty good in the past too. Uhm, high placing at MLG Columbus, made pools at IPL4 (though he did not play well in the pool play, making pools was just as difficult as the pools themselves), and top 4 at the last MLG arena = pretty terrible? Doesn't matter what standards you are using, I would say that those are some solid results. And if you watch his stream he has been playing well there too. As I said before, it is just HuK in particular that he seems to have a problem with for some reason.
and at this last mlg arena he had the second best record (only mkp did better) in the round robin stage
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On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live.
Nah, NASL has been too dysfunctional to just take their word on it like that. The overlay is large specifically to cover the "Replay complete" text which is not necessary unless you are trying to conceal that you are casting replays.
I haven't used a stealth map but that is pretty convenient if they hide the victory screen and victory text that should appear, making it look like a replay. Why use these maps anyways if it is live? What are they trying to conceal?
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On April 28 2012 13:19 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I think Ganzi's problem is he can't handle anyone who plays mindgames against him.
He'll never have a girlfriend
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HuK is great at early game aggression but past that his play has holes. A lot of Terrans - ie MKP - are meta-gaming him by being defensive early game and surviving until that mid and late game stage when HuK is weak.
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that was some nice and fast force fields : )
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On April 28 2012 13:16 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:11 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Ganzi has been pretty terrible recently (by Korean Terran standards, obviously).
He always relied on a lot of gimmicks, but his standard game was pretty good in the past too. Uhm, high placing at MLG Columbus, made pools at IPL4 (though he did not play well in the pool play, making pools was just as difficult as the pools themselves), and top 4 at the last MLG arena = pretty terrible? Doesn't matter what standards you are using, I would say that those are some solid results. And if you watch his stream he has been playing well there too. As I said before, it is just HuK in particular that he seems to have a problem with for some reason.
His actual games that I've seen look bad. He has some gimmicky stuff that get him stupid wins (like proxying a CC on Dual Sight. . .), but that doesn't change the fact that his straight up play has been terrible recently.
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On April 28 2012 13:24 Chunhyang wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:19 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I think Ganzi's problem is he can't handle anyone who plays mindgames against him. He'll never have a girlfriend
Forever a progamer.
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On April 28 2012 13:24 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live. Nah, NASL has been too dysfunctional to just take their word on it like that. The overlay is large specifically to cover the "Replay complete" text which is not necessary unless you are trying to conceal that you are casting replays. I haven't used a stealth map but that is pretty convenient if they hide the victory screen and victory text that should appear, making it look like a replay. Why use these maps anyways if it is live? What are they trying to conceal?
You're getting into tinfoil hat territory, but on previous weeks there were some live games where pauses showed up on the screen, which doesn't happen for replays.
Cloaked maps are used because if the cast is off replay, people can spoil the results by reading off the results from the players' b.net profile. It's not reasonable to expect them to change between cloaked and uncloaked maps just because one person is overly suspicious.
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On April 28 2012 13:21 Dexington wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:19 oogieogie wrote:On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live. Its always nice getting confirmation though. They said on stream it was being played live and confirmed it in this thread. What more do you want?
I think they are going to interview Huk now. But some will still not be convinced. LOL
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On April 28 2012 13:28 compucomp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:24 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live. Nah, NASL has been too dysfunctional to just take their word on it like that. The overlay is large specifically to cover the "Replay complete" text which is not necessary unless you are trying to conceal that you are casting replays. I haven't used a stealth map but that is pretty convenient if they hide the victory screen and victory text that should appear, making it look like a replay. Why use these maps anyways if it is live? What are they trying to conceal? You're getting into tinfoil hat territory, but on previous weeks there were some live games where pauses showed up on the screen, which doesn't happen for replays.
Okay some games may be live but obviously they have taken measures to prevent us from being able to tell what is really live or not and just having to take their word for it.
There's no reason for an overlay to cover the replay bar unless they are hiding something. No other league uses an overlay to hide a replay bar on live games.
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On April 28 2012 13:24 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live. Nah, NASL has been too dysfunctional to just take their word on it like that. The overlay is large specifically to cover the "Replay complete" text which is not necessary unless you are trying to conceal that you are casting replays. I haven't used a stealth map but that is pretty convenient if they hide the victory screen and victory text that should appear, making it look like a replay. Why use these maps anyways if it is live? What are they trying to conceal?
WTF? If NASL were lying about this, they would be exposed big time for it. Take your conspiracy theory elsewhere. They keep the overlay there to keep the look consistent.
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On April 28 2012 13:30 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:28 compucomp wrote:On April 28 2012 13:24 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live. Nah, NASL has been too dysfunctional to just take their word on it like that. The overlay is large specifically to cover the "Replay complete" text which is not necessary unless you are trying to conceal that you are casting replays. I haven't used a stealth map but that is pretty convenient if they hide the victory screen and victory text that should appear, making it look like a replay. Why use these maps anyways if it is live? What are they trying to conceal? You're getting into tinfoil hat territory, but on previous weeks there were some live games where pauses showed up on the screen, which doesn't happen for replays. Okay some games may be live but obviously they have taken measures to prevent us from being able to tell what is really live or not and just having to take their word for it. There's no reason for an overlay to cover the replay bar unless they are hiding something. No other league uses an overlay to hide a replay bar on live games.
no other league mixes live games and replays. it keeps the look consistent and it shows the sponsor.
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On April 28 2012 13:25 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:16 Hall0wed wrote:On April 28 2012 13:11 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Ganzi has been pretty terrible recently (by Korean Terran standards, obviously).
He always relied on a lot of gimmicks, but his standard game was pretty good in the past too. Uhm, high placing at MLG Columbus, made pools at IPL4 (though he did not play well in the pool play, making pools was just as difficult as the pools themselves), and top 4 at the last MLG arena = pretty terrible? Doesn't matter what standards you are using, I would say that those are some solid results. And if you watch his stream he has been playing well there too. As I said before, it is just HuK in particular that he seems to have a problem with for some reason. His actual games that I've seen look bad. He has some gimmicky stuff that get him stupid wins (like proxying a CC on Dual Sight. . .), but that doesn't change the fact that his straight up play has been terrible recently.
That is just not true, I don't think you have seen enough of his games to be making such statements.
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On April 28 2012 13:30 Zaqwe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 13:28 compucomp wrote:On April 28 2012 13:24 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:18 Dexington wrote:On April 28 2012 13:15 Zaqwe wrote:On April 28 2012 13:13 NASL.tv wrote:On April 28 2012 13:12 Zaqwe wrote:
NASL is lying about this being live. If it was live that little window would pop up at the end of the game.
I have noticed this several times this season. They claim to be live but are casting from replays. I guarantee you this game is LIVE. The maps are cloaked so there is no "Game Over" screen, so you'll never see it. Then you should remove the overlay covering the replay bar. The sponsor? Why would they do that, when they can plug their sponsors and just say that the game is being played live, which they did? Maybe don't assume they're lying when they say games are being played live. Nah, NASL has been too dysfunctional to just take their word on it like that. The overlay is large specifically to cover the "Replay complete" text which is not necessary unless you are trying to conceal that you are casting replays. I haven't used a stealth map but that is pretty convenient if they hide the victory screen and victory text that should appear, making it look like a replay. Why use these maps anyways if it is live? What are they trying to conceal? You're getting into tinfoil hat territory, but on previous weeks there were some live games where pauses showed up on the screen, which doesn't happen for replays. Okay some games may be live but obviously they have taken measures to prevent us from being able to tell what is really live or not and just having to take their word for it. There's no reason for an overlay to cover the replay bar unless they are hiding something. No other league uses an overlay to hide a replay bar on live games.
or they just put the overlay there all the time to keep the layout constant. That's just their standard layout.
If you don't believe you should just ask HuK yourself. Tweet him or something. If NASL is lying , people will find out.
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