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remember87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden144 Posts
April 24 2012 06:44 GMT
#121
On April 24 2012 15:34 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 15:31 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:28 remember87 wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:21 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:15 ComplexConf wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:08 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:06 remember87 wrote:
wait, so they are only playing one match at a time right now? shouldnt the light ticket holders be able to see the stream then?
According to their site, "dual streams" is:
In case it is not possible to broadcast every match on the main stream, a simultaneous second stream will be available to premium users to catch 100% of the action (currently only available for Windows users).



It's already been discussed to death really. You still get the exact amount of games with the light ticket as you did before at the exact same times


No they totally screwed us over, it says we should be able to watch all GSL live content, Dual stream is a feature among many others that premium ticket holders pay for.. The GSL live Content is as it reads supposed to be the same all across the board.. If that is not the case, then they should be a whole lot more clear on what the differences are .. and not, I repeat NOT act like they are selling light ticket holders access to all GSL live content, becus' clearly they are not..


OK, I have my own views on this but I don't want really want to discuss it with you here. Like I said, it's been discussed extensively in the previous Code A threads, we don't need to do it again.

I havent seen a chargelot archon all in vs zerg in months! That was a weird game

I am sorry but last season, wasnt the discussion about how we couldnt watch the dual stream? I didnt feel screwed then because they didnt breach their terms they set up when I bought my ticket (even if many people that couldnt read felt they were screwed).
Now its a totally different situation. They say I can watch "HQ LIVE", which means everything except "Dual Streams". Since there are no dual streams I should be able to see the games. They are breaching their terms and for that I am a bit angry.


Last week's Code A games were the same. I paid extra money to be able to watch the dual stream games. If they allow light ticket holders to watch it, then I paid more money for nothing. That isn't what I paid for, I'd be screwed over. It goes both ways, you see.


What light ticket holders that complain about this fail to realise is that everyone gets exactly what they payed for at the start of the season...

That is actually not true. Before the season I knew I COULD only watch one of the two games (since it was a dual stream, I can only watch one game at a time) and decided I could stick with the free game they gave to me and watch the premium game on VOD later. Now they broadcast the games one at a time which means I CAN watch all the games. I dont care the result in the end is that I can watch the same number of games live. Their terms in the beginning of the season affected my decision on what package to buy and now it turns out to be different from what they said. A change of terms is wrong no matter what.

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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 24 2012 06:44 GMT
#122
WTB mod note to stop all this annoying (and completely incorrect) ticket QQ.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
April 24 2012 06:45 GMT
#123
Looks like Brown has this one in the bag
@x5_MegaFonzie
ComplexConf
Profile Joined September 2011
Ireland161 Posts
April 24 2012 06:47 GMT
#124
On April 24 2012 15:40 MegaFonzie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 15:36 ComplexConf wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:31 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:28 remember87 wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:21 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:15 ComplexConf wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:08 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:06 remember87 wrote:
wait, so they are only playing one match at a time right now? shouldnt the light ticket holders be able to see the stream then?
According to their site, "dual streams" is:
In case it is not possible to broadcast every match on the main stream, a simultaneous second stream will be available to premium users to catch 100% of the action (currently only available for Windows users).



It's already been discussed to death really. You still get the exact amount of games with the light ticket as you did before at the exact same times


No they totally screwed us over, it says we should be able to watch all GSL live content, Dual stream is a feature among many others that premium ticket holders pay for.. The GSL live Content is as it reads supposed to be the same all across the board.. If that is not the case, then they should be a whole lot more clear on what the differences are .. and not, I repeat NOT act like they are selling light ticket holders access to all GSL live content, becus' clearly they are not..


OK, I have my own views on this but I don't want really want to discuss it with you here. Like I said, it's been discussed extensively in the previous Code A threads, we don't need to do it again.

I havent seen a chargelot archon all in vs zerg in months! That was a weird game

I am sorry but last season, wasnt the discussion about how we couldnt watch the dual stream? I didnt feel screwed then because they didnt breach their terms they set up when I bought my ticket (even if many people that couldnt read felt they were screwed).
Now its a totally different situation. They say I can watch "HQ LIVE", which means everything except "Dual Streams". Since there are no dual streams I should be able to see the games. They are breaching their terms and for that I am a bit angry.


Last week's Code A games were the same. I paid extra money to be able to watch the dual stream games. If they allow light ticket holders to watch it, then I paid more money for nothing. That isn't what I paid for, I'd be screwed over. It goes both ways, you see.


No you paid more money for more features, for more stuff.. etc etc.. not for exclusive GSL content, that was NEVER obvious for anyone, and don't go thinking I can't shell out more money to get my GSL content, cus I can, and I would've, had I known wtf was going on. But at this point I am pissed, and obviously dont want to buy a premium ticket and completely waste the 20 bucks I paid for the light ticket I am in possession of.


Stop it ok. I'm not responding to any of this stuff after this, like I said, it's been discussed to death already. I'll give you a tip though. You don't need to buy a new ticket, you can upgrade your current one. There, if you have money you can fork out then you should be good to go. If you hate GOM with a passion now and refuse to buy the ticket then good for you, I don't care, go post on their forums. Have a good evening


No I cannot upgrade a season light ticket to a premium season ticket..

And this is the 2nd time Gom have disappointed me in how they do business. I have no passion anymore (like tasteless ololol) so I doubt that I can continue hating on GOM. But I do believe that light ticket holders (I am not the only one pissed off about this incident) have a point and reason to feel screwed over by GOM.

It's morning here, but I'll save your sincere 'good evening' till later..
"Carrier has arrived" "GTFO OR DIE!"
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
April 24 2012 06:47 GMT
#125
It seems like Browns macro is straight up better. Tree was floating 1000/500 before with nothing building and he wasn't even in an engagement.
ComplexConf
Profile Joined September 2011
Ireland161 Posts
April 24 2012 06:48 GMT
#126
What do you guys expect us to be posting about? It's not like we can watch the games..
"Carrier has arrived" "GTFO OR DIE!"
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
April 24 2012 06:49 GMT
#127
Poll: Recommend Brown vs Tree Game 2?

No (4)
 
57%

If you have time (2)
 
29%

Yes (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Brown vs Tree Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


MarineKingPrime Forever!
Volcker
Profile Joined January 2011
France92 Posts
April 24 2012 06:49 GMT
#128
Brown takes the second game, so it's now 1-1.
For my liquidbet's sake, I hope he also wins the next game.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 24 2012 06:50 GMT
#129
That is actually not true. Before the season I knew I COULD only watch one of the two games (since it was a dual stream, I can only watch one game at a time)


Actually, that is not true. GOM's definition of dual stream has always been weird. Even when two games was going on simultanously, light subscribers were only able to watch stream #1 and not stream #2, that is why people are saying you get the same games with both setups (not just number of games but the exact matches). Only difference now is that time of stream #2 has been changed so premium subs can see both sets of game 1 at a time. For light subs, there is no difference.
MegaFonzie
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia1084 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 06:51:20
April 24 2012 06:50 GMT
#130


GOM music is trolling hardcore again today
@x5_MegaFonzie
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
April 24 2012 06:51 GMT
#131
On April 24 2012 15:48 ComplexConf wrote:
What do you guys expect us to be posting about? It's not like we can watch the games..

Don't post.
Maruprime.
ComplexConf
Profile Joined September 2011
Ireland161 Posts
April 24 2012 06:52 GMT
#132
On April 24 2012 15:50 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
That is actually not true. Before the season I knew I COULD only watch one of the two games (since it was a dual stream, I can only watch one game at a time)


Actually, that is not true. GOM's definition of dual stream has always been weird. Even when two games was going on simultanously, light subscribers were only able to watch stream #1 and not stream #2, that is why people are saying you get the same games with both setups (not just number of games but the exact matches). Only difference now is that time of stream #2 has been changed so premium subs can see both sets of game 1 at a time. For light subs, there is no difference.


Which totally makes the whole "Dual stream" friggin' retarded, since it's not dual stream, it's just 4 more games for premium ticket holders.. is it 4 ? Or more? How many.. I wanna know now.
"Carrier has arrived" "GTFO OR DIE!"
ComplexConf
Profile Joined September 2011
Ireland161 Posts
April 24 2012 06:53 GMT
#133
On April 24 2012 15:51 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 15:48 ComplexConf wrote:
What do you guys expect us to be posting about? It's not like we can watch the games..

Don't post.


I'll try!
"Carrier has arrived" "GTFO OR DIE!"
silverstyle
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1108 Posts
April 24 2012 06:53 GMT
#134
On April 24 2012 15:47 ComplexConf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 15:40 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:36 ComplexConf wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:31 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:28 remember87 wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:21 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:15 ComplexConf wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:08 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:06 remember87 wrote:
wait, so they are only playing one match at a time right now? shouldnt the light ticket holders be able to see the stream then?
According to their site, "dual streams" is:
In case it is not possible to broadcast every match on the main stream, a simultaneous second stream will be available to premium users to catch 100% of the action (currently only available for Windows users).



It's already been discussed to death really. You still get the exact amount of games with the light ticket as you did before at the exact same times


No they totally screwed us over, it says we should be able to watch all GSL live content, Dual stream is a feature among many others that premium ticket holders pay for.. The GSL live Content is as it reads supposed to be the same all across the board.. If that is not the case, then they should be a whole lot more clear on what the differences are .. and not, I repeat NOT act like they are selling light ticket holders access to all GSL live content, becus' clearly they are not..


OK, I have my own views on this but I don't want really want to discuss it with you here. Like I said, it's been discussed extensively in the previous Code A threads, we don't need to do it again.

I havent seen a chargelot archon all in vs zerg in months! That was a weird game

I am sorry but last season, wasnt the discussion about how we couldnt watch the dual stream? I didnt feel screwed then because they didnt breach their terms they set up when I bought my ticket (even if many people that couldnt read felt they were screwed).
Now its a totally different situation. They say I can watch "HQ LIVE", which means everything except "Dual Streams". Since there are no dual streams I should be able to see the games. They are breaching their terms and for that I am a bit angry.


Last week's Code A games were the same. I paid extra money to be able to watch the dual stream games. If they allow light ticket holders to watch it, then I paid more money for nothing. That isn't what I paid for, I'd be screwed over. It goes both ways, you see.


No you paid more money for more features, for more stuff.. etc etc.. not for exclusive GSL content, that was NEVER obvious for anyone, and don't go thinking I can't shell out more money to get my GSL content, cus I can, and I would've, had I known wtf was going on. But at this point I am pissed, and obviously dont want to buy a premium ticket and completely waste the 20 bucks I paid for the light ticket I am in possession of.


Stop it ok. I'm not responding to any of this stuff after this, like I said, it's been discussed to death already. I'll give you a tip though. You don't need to buy a new ticket, you can upgrade your current one. There, if you have money you can fork out then you should be good to go. If you hate GOM with a passion now and refuse to buy the ticket then good for you, I don't care, go post on their forums. Have a good evening


No I cannot upgrade a season light ticket to a premium season ticket..

And this is the 2nd time Gom have disappointed me in how they do business. I have no passion anymore (like tasteless ololol) so I doubt that I can continue hating on GOM. But I do believe that light ticket holders (I am not the only one pissed off about this incident) have a point and reason to feel screwed over by GOM.

It's morning here, but I'll save your sincere 'good evening' till later..


yes you can:

http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=220315&cid=0&kind=8&isdesc=1

"Season ticket upgrades are possible but have to be processed manually. Please contact support@gomtv.net for more information."

There you go, please go upgrade now. There isnt much complaining in a TL.net LR thread can do for you and your situation. You're better off stating your case on the gom website.
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jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 07:03:21
April 24 2012 06:55 GMT
#135
On April 24 2012 15:44 remember87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 15:34 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:31 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:28 remember87 wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:21 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:15 ComplexConf wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:08 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:06 remember87 wrote:
wait, so they are only playing one match at a time right now? shouldnt the light ticket holders be able to see the stream then?
According to their site, "dual streams" is:
In case it is not possible to broadcast every match on the main stream, a simultaneous second stream will be available to premium users to catch 100% of the action (currently only available for Windows users).



It's already been discussed to death really. You still get the exact amount of games with the light ticket as you did before at the exact same times


No they totally screwed us over, it says we should be able to watch all GSL live content, Dual stream is a feature among many others that premium ticket holders pay for.. The GSL live Content is as it reads supposed to be the same all across the board.. If that is not the case, then they should be a whole lot more clear on what the differences are .. and not, I repeat NOT act like they are selling light ticket holders access to all GSL live content, becus' clearly they are not..


OK, I have my own views on this but I don't want really want to discuss it with you here. Like I said, it's been discussed extensively in the previous Code A threads, we don't need to do it again.

I havent seen a chargelot archon all in vs zerg in months! That was a weird game

I am sorry but last season, wasnt the discussion about how we couldnt watch the dual stream? I didnt feel screwed then because they didnt breach their terms they set up when I bought my ticket (even if many people that couldnt read felt they were screwed).
Now its a totally different situation. They say I can watch "HQ LIVE", which means everything except "Dual Streams". Since there are no dual streams I should be able to see the games. They are breaching their terms and for that I am a bit angry.


Last week's Code A games were the same. I paid extra money to be able to watch the dual stream games. If they allow light ticket holders to watch it, then I paid more money for nothing. That isn't what I paid for, I'd be screwed over. It goes both ways, you see.


What light ticket holders that complain about this fail to realise is that everyone gets exactly what they payed for at the start of the season...

That is actually not true. Before the season I knew I COULD only watch one of the two games (since it was a dual stream, I can only watch one game at a time) and decided I could stick with the free game they gave to me and watch the premium game on VOD later. Now they broadcast the games one at a time which means I CAN watch all the games. I dont care the result in the end is that I can watch the same number of games live. Their terms in the beginning of the season affected my decision on what package to buy and now it turns out to be different from what they said. A change of terms is wrong no matter what.


One of the GOM employees clarified their point of view somewhere on their forums (can't be bothered to find it right now). Basically, he mentioned that the description of the "Dual Stream" service in the ticket store is:
"In case it is not possible to broadcast every match on the main stream, a simultaneous second stream will be available to premium users to catch 100% of the action[...]"

The first part did not change (they still can't show half the matches on the main broadcast stream); they only made the timing of the second "premium" stream earlier (most likely due to having only two casters available for the day). So if anything, the "change in terms" is that they should have struck out/deleted the word "simultaneous" from the description.

Edit: Of course, that doesn't resolve the issue of the service being called "Dual Stream" when they're not exactly "dual" anymore.

Edit 2: Apologies for posting all this non-game-related stuff in this thread. I guess I have too much time on my hands, being a light ticket holder...
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Hamdemon
Profile Joined September 2011
United States348 Posts
April 24 2012 07:01 GMT
#136
I missed Inca's match and want to watch it without spoilers...anyone know when it's gonna be up on VOD? First time ticket buyer here.
"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu
Volcker
Profile Joined January 2011
France92 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 07:04:07
April 24 2012 07:02 GMT
#137
FXOTree being so abusive with those drops xD




On April 24 2012 16:01 Hamdemon wrote:
I missed Inca's match and want to watch it without spoilers...anyone know when it's gonna be up on VOD? First time ticket buyer here.

The first match is usually uploaded within the hour following the last match. But as there are two sessions today, the schedule might change.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 24 2012 07:02 GMT
#138
since it's not dual stream, it's just 4 more games for premium ticket holders.. is it 4 ? Or more? How many.. I wanna know now.


If I am not mistaken, it is only for first 2 rounds of code A. So 12 matches for round 1 and 8 matches for round 2 for a total of 20 matches..
Hamdemon
Profile Joined September 2011
United States348 Posts
April 24 2012 07:03 GMT
#139
Geez...those complaining about not watching, you're not missing much. This really isn't GSL-quality play, I have a feeling the winner's gonna be a walkover for their opponent next round.
"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 24 2012 07:03 GMT
#140
On April 24 2012 15:44 remember87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 15:34 Fragile51 wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:31 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:28 remember87 wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:21 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:15 ComplexConf wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:08 MegaFonzie wrote:
On April 24 2012 15:06 remember87 wrote:
wait, so they are only playing one match at a time right now? shouldnt the light ticket holders be able to see the stream then?
According to their site, "dual streams" is:
In case it is not possible to broadcast every match on the main stream, a simultaneous second stream will be available to premium users to catch 100% of the action (currently only available for Windows users).



It's already been discussed to death really. You still get the exact amount of games with the light ticket as you did before at the exact same times


No they totally screwed us over, it says we should be able to watch all GSL live content, Dual stream is a feature among many others that premium ticket holders pay for.. The GSL live Content is as it reads supposed to be the same all across the board.. If that is not the case, then they should be a whole lot more clear on what the differences are .. and not, I repeat NOT act like they are selling light ticket holders access to all GSL live content, becus' clearly they are not..


OK, I have my own views on this but I don't want really want to discuss it with you here. Like I said, it's been discussed extensively in the previous Code A threads, we don't need to do it again.

I havent seen a chargelot archon all in vs zerg in months! That was a weird game

I am sorry but last season, wasnt the discussion about how we couldnt watch the dual stream? I didnt feel screwed then because they didnt breach their terms they set up when I bought my ticket (even if many people that couldnt read felt they were screwed).
Now its a totally different situation. They say I can watch "HQ LIVE", which means everything except "Dual Streams". Since there are no dual streams I should be able to see the games. They are breaching their terms and for that I am a bit angry.


Last week's Code A games were the same. I paid extra money to be able to watch the dual stream games. If they allow light ticket holders to watch it, then I paid more money for nothing. That isn't what I paid for, I'd be screwed over. It goes both ways, you see.


What light ticket holders that complain about this fail to realise is that everyone gets exactly what they payed for at the start of the season...

That is actually not true. Before the season I knew I COULD only watch one of the two games (since it was a dual stream, I can only watch one game at a time) and decided I could stick with the free game they gave to me and watch the premium game on VOD later. Now they broadcast the games one at a time which means I CAN watch all the games. I dont care the result in the end is that I can watch the same number of games live. Their terms in the beginning of the season affected my decision on what package to buy and now it turns out to be different from what they said. A change of terms is wrong no matter what.


Lol, it is true. You just said so yourself. You weren't able to watch the games if they were broadcast at the same time, and you're not able to watch them when they are broadcast one after the other. In terms of service and product you are getting the exact same thing. They just aren't able to broadcast the games at the same time anymore, since moletrap is no longer with Gom anymore.
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