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On April 25 2012 18:41 R1CH wrote: I thought a lot of the reason for the format change in 2012 was to move away from the system that rewarded people who attended MLG events consistently. I don't feel this system allows for enough rotation of players, especially those from Korea / Europe who can't afford to risk everything in the open bracket. The open qualifier only being a qualifier for the invite only is really rough considering people who attended an MLG pretty much get to the invite only for free.
All the guys not on the list probably turned down the invite. And MLG will never move away from rewarding people that participate in their events in some way or another. Its a smart strategy to make sure that the top performing players are always present. But there was an open qualifier and they said they will make it more open with time anyways.
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Grubby only European with no team next to his name. Ballerrrrrr
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Invites sucks, open entry is the only way to go. MLG is just feeding a select group of players which is not the best anyways, especially in Europe.
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On April 25 2012 20:16 archonOOid wrote: Invites sucks, open entry is the only way to go. MLG is just feeding a select group of players which is not the best anyways, especially in Europe.
Have you bothered reading the other posts? There WAS an open qualifier. The top 8 from each open qualifier region is fed into this invite-only qualifier.
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On April 25 2012 18:41 Musicus wrote: So Hasu isn't going to the next MLG either I guess. He was top 36 in MLG Winter Championship but isn't listed in the qualifier.
He can't play in the qualifier because it clashes with his EPS games.
At least the European qualifier format needs to be redone, it's like the previous Code S format, it takes ages for more than a few players to drop out and for new players to get in, it really makes no sense to me to hold an open qualifier, get a lot of good players in there and then let only a handful of them qualify for the invite-only qualifier. Has way too much benefit for the players who qualified for Winter Arena which makes no sense, because the qualifier for the Winter Arena had the stupidest format I've seen in a while, most players had no chance to even get into the qualifier, there's no point to punish them for this by giving the players who "managed" to get in an extra advantage.
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Why not add "Team Grubby" as Grubby's team Some casters already state it as still a team even though he's an independent player
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I understand the eu comments but if dreamhavk/gsl did the same thing it would be the opposite. It's a us based competition of course more NA guys will go. At least his system allows for open qualification into this bracket.
In the end the spring arena will have the same representation from each of the regions. MLG wants to recognize players that come to their championship events and do well. This is a good way to do so without seeding them directly into pools like they did last year. You could be seeded #1 in this qualifier and not get to the arena. This is a much better way to decide the pools.
Why should MLG invite someone who never goes overseas to their events. They want people who want to be there. If you want to no have to qualify through the online quals, then fly over to the US and compete in the championship. It's probably easier to get top 80 there than to win the online quals anyway.
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On April 25 2012 20:26 Morieris wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 20:16 archonOOid wrote: Invites sucks, open entry is the only way to go. MLG is just feeding a select group of players which is not the best anyways, especially in Europe. Have you bothered reading the other posts? There WAS an open qualifier. The top 8 from each open qualifier region is fed into this invite-only qualifier. Actually this is a qualifier for a invite-only qualifier....
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No NonY, Hero, Taeja, or Zenio T-T. Hopefully liquid still gets some good representation with Sheth, Ret, TLO, Haypro, and Jinro. At least Ret and TLO shouldn't have too hard of a time getting through Europe as there are 9 of 18 going through. Still T-T
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On April 25 2012 21:02 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 20:26 Morieris wrote:On April 25 2012 20:16 archonOOid wrote: Invites sucks, open entry is the only way to go. MLG is just feeding a select group of players which is not the best anyways, especially in Europe. Have you bothered reading the other posts? There WAS an open qualifier. The top 8 from each open qualifier region is fed into this invite-only qualifier. Actually this is a qualifier for a invite-only qualifier....
An invite-only qualifier for an invite-only qualifier!
On April 25 2012 21:01 widdox wrote: I understand the eu comments but if dreamhavk/gsl did the same thing it would be the opposite. It's a us based competition of course more NA guys will go. At least his system allows for open qualification into this bracket.
The point is not to get more EU players in there, I don't really care if it's EU or NA that has 8 or 9 spots, it doesn't matter much.
On April 25 2012 21:01 widdox wrote: In the end the spring arena will have the same representation from each of the regions. MLG wants to recognize players that come to their championship events and do well. This is a good way to do so without seeding them directly into pools like they did last year. You could be seeded #1 in this qualifier and not get to the arena. This is a much better way to decide the pools.
Why should MLG invite someone who never goes overseas to their events. They want people who want to be there. If you want to no have to qualify through the online quals, then fly over to the US and compete in the championship. It's probably easier to get top 80 there than to win the online quals anyway.
I don't really get it.
Why would MLG only want people who would get flown to their events anyway. There are a lot of really good players who might "want to be" at MLGs but their teams don't have the money to send them there or don't want to spend it with little to no expected return. I thought this was the reason MLG made the whole thing more open and paid for flights and stuff not only for Koreans but also for the other guys at the arenas. To get a better representation of European players at their Arenas and Championship events, not just everyone from Liquid, someone from mouz and maybe someone from Dignitas.
Do you see the difference in the teams in the player list in the first posts?
Seeded from previous MLGs: Alternate, Liquid, Dignitas, Mouz, (teams who always could afford to send players to MLGs)
Qualified now for the first time: RoxKIS, BLAST, AlienInvasion.
If we had like 16 or 24 players qualify for this qualifier instead of 8, the field would be more competitive, more interesting and a much greater possibility of perceived upsets and chances for newcomers who deserve more spotlight.
With the current format, it seems like MLG either really isn't going for this, or they failed to achieve what they wanted.
Seriously, a qualifier where 9 out of the 18 invited players get a spot is kinda boring.
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hmm, few europeans this time
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I hope grubby doesn't play that well so we can see him casting more! I love him as a caster + player
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Nani vs Huk is bound to happen ^_ ^
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Hoping lots of EG and liquid players get through. I also would like to see nestea, and MVP get through cause its always a treat to see them play.
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Why is MC even on this list? He got top 6 at the Arena ....
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Only top 4 from Arena 1 are seeded to the championship.
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On April 25 2012 22:55 Duravi wrote: Why is MC even on this list? He got top 6 at the Arena ....
Only top 4 are auto-seeded.
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I would watch the MLG if it has a free stream, if not I will kept to ky promise of NO support that stupid PPV format ever.
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