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[Code S] Ro16 Group B 2012 GSL Season 2 - Page 183

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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 19 2012 20:32 GMT
#3641
On April 20 2012 04:17 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:10 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 19 2012 23:45 dezi wrote:
Uhm, so GomTvP from now on? ^^

I wish I enjoyed the matchup more...

You and me (and loads of other people) both. TvP is too much bashing armies into each other and not enough positional play. The crazy advantage swings between one race and the other depending on how far into the game you get make it even worse. Plus Protoss is boring.


Watch SuperNova vs Genius, Game 2.

Not enough positional play my arse. As the players get better, the matchup will look better.

Plus: nukes.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
April 19 2012 20:35 GMT
#3642
T.T oh my sad zerg

well MVP gets through and great job hero
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
April 19 2012 20:50 GMT
#3643
MVP's brute force TvZ has always been a joy to watch. Happy he made it to the ro8, but It's a shame we're gonna have to watch what looks like lots of TvP the rest of the tournament.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
April 19 2012 21:39 GMT
#3644
On April 20 2012 05:50 Derez wrote:
MVP's brute force TvZ has always been a joy to watch. Happy he made it to the ro8, but It's a shame we're gonna have to watch what looks like lots of TvP the rest of the tournament.


The most likely course the ro8 takes is 3 TvPs and a PvP.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37041 Posts
April 19 2012 21:41 GMT
#3645
On April 20 2012 04:01 SeungHwan wrote:
Gotta say I love the description on each game that seeker added to the recommended games section. Helps me better identify what games I want to watch when I am unable to see GSL live.

Thank you

I will be doing this for every game from now on. I do all the work while u guys lie around watching VODs, eating chips, and drinking soda. :D
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Rookie6
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil583 Posts
April 19 2012 21:48 GMT
#3646
On April 20 2012 06:41 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:01 SeungHwan wrote:
Gotta say I love the description on each game that seeker added to the recommended games section. Helps me better identify what games I want to watch when I am unable to see GSL live.

Thank you

I will be doing this for every game from now on. I do all the work while u guys lie around watching VODs, eating chips, and drinking soda. :D


Yea, that is great! Thanks for doing this man, you are the best
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
April 19 2012 21:54 GMT
#3647
On April 20 2012 06:41 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:01 SeungHwan wrote:
Gotta say I love the description on each game that seeker added to the recommended games section. Helps me better identify what games I want to watch when I am unable to see GSL live.

Thank you

I will be doing this for every game from now on. I do all the work while u guys lie around watching VODs, eating chips, and drinking soda. :D


Thanks SeeKeR, I'll be sure to do all of that + maybe even drink some beer! :D
Never say die
SC2Jan
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany93 Posts
April 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#3648
Hey guys,

I actually never used the GOM TV page and didn't follow GSL at all besides results, so please forgive me my nescience - but why can't I find the Leenock - MVP match at the VOD section? Now, what I found was this: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/vod/?order=1&ltype=32&stype=1

Have you, who already watched the VODs, a premium account or something like that so you can watch the VODs earlier? Or are some of the VODs for premium users only?

Could someone please enlighten me? Thx in advance. :D
Kevinshi3
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States148 Posts
April 19 2012 22:05 GMT
#3649
To be honest ro8 here we go the protoss is my favorite but I'm really happy immvp did it too!
yo mamaship so fat it couldn't fit in the expansion
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-19 22:23:17
April 19 2012 22:16 GMT
#3650
On April 20 2012 07:04 SC2Jan wrote:
Hey guys,

I actually never used the GOM TV page and didn't follow GSL at all besides results, so please forgive me my nescience - but why can't I find the Leenock - MVP match at the VOD section? Now, what I found was this: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/vod/?order=1&ltype=32&stype=1

Have you, who already watched the VODs, a premium account or something like that so you can watch the VODs earlier? Or are some of the VODs for premium users only?

Could someone please enlighten me? Thx in advance. :D

It's the last set in the Code S ro8 group B VOD at the top there. You can watch the first match for free.
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
April 19 2012 22:20 GMT
#3651
Well hey, maybe since no Zerg are left all the Terran and Protoss will forget how to play vs Z and Zerg will rebound next season!!
:D
.....

: (
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 19 2012 22:21 GMT
#3652
On April 20 2012 07:04 SC2Jan wrote:
Hey guys,

I actually never used the GOM TV page and didn't follow GSL at all besides results, so please forgive me my nescience - but why can't I find the Leenock - MVP match at the VOD section? Now, what I found was this: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/vod/?order=1&ltype=32&stype=1

Have you, who already watched the VODs, a premium account or something like that so you can watch the VODs earlier? Or are some of the VODs for premium users only?

Could someone please enlighten me? Thx in advance. :D


Only the first map of the first set from each day is free
SC2Jan
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany93 Posts
April 19 2012 22:27 GMT
#3653
Thanks for the info, guys!
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 20 2012 00:10 GMT
#3654
On April 20 2012 07:20 GwSC wrote:
Well hey, maybe since no Zerg are left all the Terran and Protoss will forget how to play vs Z and Zerg will rebound next season!!
:D
.....

: (


Thats the reason a lot of players' PvT and PvZ looked so strong the last couple of seasons =P

Joking aside though, there was a small period where Protoss started to pick their numbers up and terran players looked lost because they only needed to 1-1-1 for so long they forgot how macro play worked. You could make an argument that only some terran players actually understand late game TvP based on the fact that there were so few successful Protoss mid-late last year that they didn't get to the late game enough.

So maybe? But it is only this one season, and Code A is still littered with very strong zerg players.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 20 2012 02:20 GMT
#3655

Joking aside though, there was a small period where Protoss started to pick their numbers up and terran players looked lost because they only needed to 1-1-1 for so long they forgot how macro play worked. You could make an argument that only some terran players actually understand late game TvP based on the fact that there were so few successful Protoss mid-late last year that they didn't get to the late game enough.


Or the arguement could be made that the 1-1-1 just masked some of the late game TvP issues that were always there but not many games got to that point. We are beginning to see terrans trying new things to combat this (early 3rd, pfs, nukes, etc). Now whether they work or not. We will have to see more games. Maybe some changes to late game are needed or maybe not. With many many TvPs coming up this season, we should get a pretty good idea. Remember also that maps also play a critical role. If you look at the GSL TvPs this season, did any terran even try 1-1-1? One reason is that Protosses are dealing with it well but I think maps are a big factor as well. A lot of the 1-1-1 'friendly' maps are no longer in play.
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
April 20 2012 05:47 GMT
#3656
On April 19 2012 22:09 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2012 22:06 Alpino wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:04 opterown wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:04 Zealously wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:03 Dattish wrote:
On April 19 2012 22:02 noD wrote:
looking on the bright side if mvp loses naniwa is 100% guaranteed to be at least in ro4 ....
Nanis PvT is actually alot stronger than his PvZ.


His PvLeenock is absurdly good, though.


lol mlg prov


Well NaNi's PvZ came a long way since then, he was literally a one-trick pony in PvZ.

He never was a one-trick pony -_- . Almost every protoss in the worlds goes ffe or nexus first every single PvZ, i never understood why people called Naniwa predictable for doing it.


Because he did a very specific greedy variant of it into the same collosus allin build every time. FFE is standard. His FFE was riskier and had delayed scouting, which allowed the roach bust to wreck him, especially as he did not adapt the build after Leenock rushed him multiple times.
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
April 20 2012 05:51 GMT
#3657
On April 20 2012 05:50 Derez wrote:
MVP's brute force TvZ has always been a joy to watch. Happy he made it to the ro8, but It's a shame we're gonna have to watch what looks like lots of TvP the rest of the tournament.


brute force? usually it's a chess-like strategical macro game! I do admit that last game was pretty scrappy but I'm assuming he chose that heavy 2-base style of play due to the map being relatively zerg-friendly
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50545 Posts
April 20 2012 05:53 GMT
#3658
On April 20 2012 06:41 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 04:01 SeungHwan wrote:
Gotta say I love the description on each game that seeker added to the recommended games section. Helps me better identify what games I want to watch when I am unable to see GSL live.

Thank you

I will be doing this for every game from now on. I do all the work while u guys lie around watching VODs, eating chips, and drinking soda. :D


you're welcome bro.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
April 20 2012 06:09 GMT
#3659
but I'm assuming he chose that heavy 2-base style of play due to the map being relatively zerg-friendly


Yes, I assume you are talking about the Dual Sight game. That map does not lend itself to a fast third from terrans. So most terrans will tech on 2 bases and pressure to delay/kill zerg's third before trying to expand themselves with planetary.
Savante
Profile Joined August 2010
Turkey1 Post
April 20 2012 23:38 GMT
#3660
I'm a zerg and bought a season 2 ticket to watch zerg games Look how it turned out :/ I also believe this game is a bit unfair to zerg players..
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