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On April 20 2012 04:17 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 04:10 sparklyresidue wrote:On April 19 2012 23:45 dezi wrote:
Uhm, so GomTvP from now on? ^^ I wish I enjoyed the matchup more... You and me (and loads of other people) both. TvP is too much bashing armies into each other and not enough positional play. The crazy advantage swings between one race and the other depending on how far into the game you get make it even worse. Plus Protoss is boring.
Watch SuperNova vs Genius, Game 2.
Not enough positional play my arse. As the players get better, the matchup will look better.
Plus: nukes.
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T.T oh my sad zerg
well MVP gets through and great job hero
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MVP's brute force TvZ has always been a joy to watch. Happy he made it to the ro8, but It's a shame we're gonna have to watch what looks like lots of TvP the rest of the tournament.
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On April 20 2012 05:50 Derez wrote:
MVP's brute force TvZ has always been a joy to watch. Happy he made it to the ro8, but It's a shame we're gonna have to watch what looks like lots of TvP the rest of the tournament.
The most likely course the ro8 takes is 3 TvPs and a PvP.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
On April 20 2012 04:01 SeungHwan wrote:
Gotta say I love the description on each game that seeker added to the recommended games section. Helps me better identify what games I want to watch when I am unable to see GSL live.
Thank you 
I will be doing this for every game from now on. I do all the work while u guys lie around watching VODs, eating chips, and drinking soda. :D
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On April 20 2012 06:41 SeeKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 04:01 SeungHwan wrote:
Gotta say I love the description on each game that seeker added to the recommended games section. Helps me better identify what games I want to watch when I am unable to see GSL live. Thank you I will be doing this for every game from now on. I do all the work while u guys lie around watching VODs, eating chips, and drinking soda. :D
Yea, that is great! Thanks for doing this man, you are the best
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On April 20 2012 06:41 SeeKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 04:01 SeungHwan wrote:
Gotta say I love the description on each game that seeker added to the recommended games section. Helps me better identify what games I want to watch when I am unable to see GSL live. Thank you I will be doing this for every game from now on. I do all the work while u guys lie around watching VODs, eating chips, and drinking soda. :D
Thanks SeeKeR, I'll be sure to do all of that + maybe even drink some beer! :D
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Hey guys,
I actually never used the GOM TV page and didn't follow GSL at all besides results, so please forgive me my nescience - but why can't I find the Leenock - MVP match at the VOD section? Now, what I found was this: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/vod/?order=1<ype=32&stype=1
Have you, who already watched the VODs, a premium account or something like that so you can watch the VODs earlier? Or are some of the VODs for premium users only?
Could someone please enlighten me? Thx in advance. :D
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To be honest ro8 here we go the protoss is my favorite but I'm really happy immvp did it too!
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On April 20 2012 07:04 SC2Jan wrote:Hey guys, I actually never used the GOM TV page and didn't follow GSL at all besides results, so please forgive me my nescience - but why can't I find the Leenock - MVP match at the VOD section? Now, what I found was this: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/vod/?order=1<ype=32&stype=1Have you, who already watched the VODs, a premium account or something like that so you can watch the VODs earlier? Or are some of the VODs for premium users only? Could someone please enlighten me? Thx in advance. :D
It's the last set in the Code S ro8 group B VOD at the top there. You can watch the first match for free.
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Well hey, maybe since no Zerg are left all the Terran and Protoss will forget how to play vs Z and Zerg will rebound next season!!
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On April 20 2012 07:04 SC2Jan wrote:Hey guys, I actually never used the GOM TV page and didn't follow GSL at all besides results, so please forgive me my nescience - but why can't I find the Leenock - MVP match at the VOD section? Now, what I found was this: http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls2/vod/?order=1<ype=32&stype=1Have you, who already watched the VODs, a premium account or something like that so you can watch the VODs earlier? Or are some of the VODs for premium users only? Could someone please enlighten me? Thx in advance. :D
Only the first map of the first set from each day is free
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Thanks for the info, guys!
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On April 20 2012 07:20 GwSC wrote:
Well hey, maybe since no Zerg are left all the Terran and Protoss will forget how to play vs Z and Zerg will rebound next season!!
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Thats the reason a lot of players' PvT and PvZ looked so strong the last couple of seasons =P
Joking aside though, there was a small period where Protoss started to pick their numbers up and terran players looked lost because they only needed to 1-1-1 for so long they forgot how macro play worked. You could make an argument that only some terran players actually understand late game TvP based on the fact that there were so few successful Protoss mid-late last year that they didn't get to the late game enough.
So maybe? But it is only this one season, and Code A is still littered with very strong zerg players.
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Joking aside though, there was a small period where Protoss started to pick their numbers up and terran players looked lost because they only needed to 1-1-1 for so long they forgot how macro play worked. You could make an argument that only some terran players actually understand late game TvP based on the fact that there were so few successful Protoss mid-late last year that they didn't get to the late game enough.
Or the arguement could be made that the 1-1-1 just masked some of the late game TvP issues that were always there but not many games got to that point. We are beginning to see terrans trying new things to combat this (early 3rd, pfs, nukes, etc). Now whether they work or not. We will have to see more games. Maybe some changes to late game are needed or maybe not. With many many TvPs coming up this season, we should get a pretty good idea. Remember also that maps also play a critical role. If you look at the GSL TvPs this season, did any terran even try 1-1-1? One reason is that Protosses are dealing with it well but I think maps are a big factor as well. A lot of the 1-1-1 'friendly' maps are no longer in play.
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On April 19 2012 22:09 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 22:06 Alpino wrote:On April 19 2012 22:04 opterown wrote:On April 19 2012 22:04 Zealously wrote:On April 19 2012 22:03 Dattish wrote:On April 19 2012 22:02 noD wrote:
looking on the bright side if mvp loses naniwa is 100% guaranteed to be at least in ro4 .... Nanis PvT is actually alot stronger than his PvZ. His PvLeenock is absurdly good, though. lol mlg prov Well NaNi's PvZ came a long way since then, he was literally a one-trick pony in PvZ. He never was a one-trick pony -_- . Almost every protoss in the worlds goes ffe or nexus first every single PvZ, i never understood why people called Naniwa predictable for doing it.
Because he did a very specific greedy variant of it into the same collosus allin build every time. FFE is standard. His FFE was riskier and had delayed scouting, which allowed the roach bust to wreck him, especially as he did not adapt the build after Leenock rushed him multiple times.
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On April 20 2012 05:50 Derez wrote:
MVP's brute force TvZ has always been a joy to watch. Happy he made it to the ro8, but It's a shame we're gonna have to watch what looks like lots of TvP the rest of the tournament.
brute force? usually it's a chess-like strategical macro game! I do admit that last game was pretty scrappy but I'm assuming he chose that heavy 2-base style of play due to the map being relatively zerg-friendly
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On April 20 2012 06:41 SeeKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 04:01 SeungHwan wrote:
Gotta say I love the description on each game that seeker added to the recommended games section. Helps me better identify what games I want to watch when I am unable to see GSL live. Thank you I will be doing this for every game from now on. I do all the work while u guys lie around watching VODs, eating chips, and drinking soda. :D
you're welcome bro.
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but I'm assuming he chose that heavy 2-base style of play due to the map being relatively zerg-friendly
Yes, I assume you are talking about the Dual Sight game. That map does not lend itself to a fast third from terrans. So most terrans will tech on 2 bases and pressure to delay/kill zerg's third before trying to expand themselves with planetary.
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I'm a zerg and bought a season 2 ticket to watch zerg games  Look how it turned out :/ I also believe this game is a bit unfair to zerg players..
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