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United Kingdom10823 Posts
On April 19 2012 21:50 Sareth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 21:47 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 19 2012 21:46 Sareth wrote:On April 19 2012 21:44 Fragile51 wrote:On April 19 2012 21:43 Sareth wrote:On April 19 2012 21:41 fixed_point wrote:
So which is worse right now, PvP or ZvZ? PvP In ZvZ 99% the better ZvZler wins. In PvP its every game nearly 50/50. That's bullshit and you know it. Maybe a year ago this was valid about PvP, but it has evolved far far far beyond that. PvP is just as much a test of skills as ZvZ is. Okay, maybe the numbers are a bit to extreme, but still PvP is the most "cointoss" matchup. ...because baneling wars aren't the most volatile battles in the game? -.- because banelingwars can be influenced by micro. If you go anythnig but robo you die to dts. If you lose a Stalker in the early game you are behind, and the snowballing in PvP is extreme. If you expand against a 4gate you are pretty much dead.
If you miss an inject, you are behind and the snowballing is extreme
If you have a Queen slightly out of position, you lose it via ling attacks, pushing you further behind
If you get one bad baneling hit, you lose half your economy
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On April 19 2012 21:46 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 21:45 -TesteR- wrote:On April 19 2012 21:39 Dodgin wrote:On April 19 2012 21:34 -TesteR- wrote:On April 19 2012 21:29 Dodgin wrote:On April 19 2012 21:27 -TesteR- wrote:On April 19 2012 21:22 Talin wrote:Are people seriously complaining about poll votes? -_- I can't remember voting objectively in any starcraft-related poll ever, EVER (unless it happened to coincide with my choice).  remember, the people who are complaining about the 5 star votes are the same people who would themselves vote 5 stars if MVP had won :D That's not true at all and a really stupid thing to say, a Terran winning with a one base all-in against a Protoss will almost never be a 5 star game unless some crazy shit happens. You guys say posters only vote with their heart for recommended games but I can give you examples in the SPL finals thread that proves this very wrong. false, its really stupid to compare the general populace of TL to the few whiners about the poll. The game was also not a 1 star game, yet there are butt hurt fanboys voting 1 star(which has a ton of votes in 2nd place), which most likely would switch to 5 star votes if MVP would have won. Nice try though. I don't think Mvp has enough " fanboys " to make the 1 star vote equal the 5 star votes, It's just reasonable people who know that was an awful game. Maybe the BW forums are just more mature considering both games were Flash lost in the finals have 95%+ recommended. Yes the 1 star vote is reasonably, that was the worst possible game deserving of the lowest possible vote. so dumb... I voted for two stars but I can see how people would choose one, It's not entertaining and you can't learn anything from it other than scouting the map is good.
Agreed, the game wasn't informative or entertaining. MVP got a proxy scouted then placed a bunker in cannon range, Hero focus fired a siege tank and warped in zealots which with stalkers and only marines for MVP meant certain death. if that's getting voted 5 stars... then the Hero v Leenok games need to be voted 10 stars -_- .
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oh man here comes the ridiculous bunker placement
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Wait what? Double maka rax? o_o BUNKERUUUUUUU
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United States97276 Posts
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Come on Leenock...please keep Zerg hope alive.
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wow mvp does not know its not cross only
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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On April 19 2012 21:53 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 21:50 Sareth wrote:On April 19 2012 21:47 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 19 2012 21:46 Sareth wrote:On April 19 2012 21:44 Fragile51 wrote:On April 19 2012 21:43 Sareth wrote:On April 19 2012 21:41 fixed_point wrote:
So which is worse right now, PvP or ZvZ? PvP In ZvZ 99% the better ZvZler wins. In PvP its every game nearly 50/50. That's bullshit and you know it. Maybe a year ago this was valid about PvP, but it has evolved far far far beyond that. PvP is just as much a test of skills as ZvZ is. Okay, maybe the numbers are a bit to extreme, but still PvP is the most "cointoss" matchup. ...because baneling wars aren't the most volatile battles in the game? -.- because banelingwars can be influenced by micro. If you go anythnig but robo you die to dts. If you lose a Stalker in the early game you are behind, and the snowballing in PvP is extreme. If you expand against a 4gate you are pretty much dead. If you miss an inject, you are behind and the snowballing is extreme If you have a Queen slightly out of position, you lose it via ling attacks, pushing you further behind If you get one bad baneling hit, you lose half your economy
1 is about build order coin flip losses
2 you are talking about micro/macro mistakes which indicates who the superior player is
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SCVs 'repairing' each other
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is mvp too proud to take the autowin with the abuse spot?
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On April 19 2012 21:52 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2012 21:52 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 19 2012 21:50 KiNGxXx wrote:On April 19 2012 21:48 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 19 2012 21:47 Fenrax wrote:
this song rocks! Correction: as soon as it began it was time to mute the stream for the first time today and turn on Kpop instead So you enjoyed it the first three times?  No, I watched the first three series from school with the sound off, doesn't count You can watch GSL from school? Lucky bastard.
Not that often, but Thursdays are by far the most computer-based days, so today it was cool
I'll miss PartinG's group though T.T
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Leenock not making any drones o.O
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Well this is decent for Mvp, Leenock made a ton of lings.
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Finally a player who doesn't send the mule to fight...
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Leenock you boss!
Harassed with his Drone the constructing SCVs so much, that MVP had to repair them or send fresh ones from the base, both costing just a tad more time.
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EPT
