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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
April 17 2012 07:08 GMT
#361
On April 17 2012 15:29 HuKPOWA wrote:
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On April 17 2012 13:49 ninjamyst wrote:
On April 17 2012 13:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
yup game's over. Hero and Zenio really letting down TL this series


lol...how is HerO loosing 2-1 to IPL4 champion letting TL down...I agree to an extend that Zenio got a little too greedy with his builds but imo, he's still the better player based on the 2nd macro game


by losing a team match....next....

Ok so anyone who ever lost a game whether or not it was to a better player or an equal player lets his team down? Good to know.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
April 17 2012 09:47 GMT
#362
was expecting Zenio to take his series, no surprise elsewhere! gg Fnatic
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
April 17 2012 19:25 GMT
#363
On April 17 2012 15:29 HuKPOWA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 13:49 ninjamyst wrote:
On April 17 2012 13:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
yup game's over. Hero and Zenio really letting down TL this series


lol...how is HerO loosing 2-1 to IPL4 champion letting TL down...I agree to an extend that Zenio got a little too greedy with his builds but imo, he's still the better player based on the 2nd macro game


by losing a team match....next....


Yeah. Flash too. Talk about an effing loser. Why his team sends him out anymore is beyond me.
xUraharaX
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
April 17 2012 19:47 GMT
#364
demu and azael are making me frustrated as a casting duo.
demu likes talking alot, azael likes arguing alot. I <3 demu casting, dont know enough about azael to decide if he is good.
these two are constantly stepping on each others toes, would not like to seem them casting together again.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 17 2012 20:18 GMT
#365
Taeja gonna kill your tank... with SCVs. ^_^
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Vita`
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden55 Posts
April 17 2012 20:53 GMT
#366
I pretty sure aLive woulda destryoed Taeja in the form he is after IPL4. Not to mention his mechplay is too good.
GUTS
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7382 Posts
April 17 2012 21:02 GMT
#367
Too bad

After a very good TAC II and NASTL? run, i'm very suprised by the results of this torunament for TL.
I don't think they'll make the playoffs

makes me sad ;(
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 21:29:31
April 17 2012 21:24 GMT
#368
On April 17 2012 14:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
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On April 17 2012 14:05 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On April 17 2012 13:59 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On April 17 2012 13:37 FlyingTurtle wrote:
By choosing 1gate expand, Nony is being really smart. Most Z v P games now focus on dealing with FFE, and Zergs are not used to seeing the 1gate expand. Some, like Moon, may misread and prepare for a 4gate Zealot/Sentry push. Also, it messes with the timings that Zerg players are used to (later 3rd hatch- unless you want to gamble with a super-fast 3rd and hope it's a 1gate expo instead of a 3 or 4gate). As a result, Moon made roaches too soon instead of hitting that 60-65 drone count and maxing at 12. Nony is definitely using the metagame to his advantage.


And 1 gate expand is bad for all the reasons that the last game showed.


That's because he does it TOO consistently and Moon basically played super greedy with the drone up. Nony didn't pressure him quickly enough. If he did the 1gate expo as his main build with an occasional FFE and an infrequent 1base aggression opening he would have a very flexible opening repertoire with the ability to mindgame any opponent. Instead, he did the safe expo every game and Moon figured out the pattern. Predictability leads to exploitation.


I have yet to see 1 gate expand consistently work against a top-level zerg and Moon is not a top-level zerg at the moment.


You have not seen 1 gate expand against top-level Zergs at all - because top-level Protoss players think that FFE is the only viable build.
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