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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
Anyway, great games to watch! :D | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:47 MasterKang wrote: damn, if they forced an ace match wouldve been taeja vs alive with TL victory I would actually give the advantage to aLive. Taeja's TvT is very strong, but I think aLive's TvT is a bit stronger. | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:46 xXFireandIceXx wrote: yup game's over. Hero and Zenio really letting down TL this series lol...how is HerO loosing 2-1 to IPL4 champion letting TL down...I agree to an extend that Zenio got a little too greedy with his builds but imo, he's still the better player based on the 2nd macro game | ||
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SilentBonjwa
Germany119 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:47 MasterKang wrote: damn, if they forced an ace match wouldve been taeja vs alive with TL victory not really, aLive didnt lose a TvT in months ^^ ggs TL | ||
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Darkaros
United States248 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37099 Posts
TaeJa just joined the roster, and I wanted some great games from him.....  Next time TL...... next time...... | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:54 SeeKeR wrote: This sucks hardcore.... TaeJa just joined the roster, and I wanted some great games from him..... Next time TL...... next time...... He did 2-0 his opponent convincingly. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:37 FlyingTurtle wrote: By choosing 1gate expand, Nony is being really smart. Most Z v P games now focus on dealing with FFE, and Zergs are not used to seeing the 1gate expand. Some, like Moon, may misread and prepare for a 4gate Zealot/Sentry push. Also, it messes with the timings that Zerg players are used to (later 3rd hatch- unless you want to gamble with a super-fast 3rd and hope it's a 1gate expo instead of a 3 or 4gate). As a result, Moon made roaches too soon instead of hitting that 60-65 drone count and maxing at 12. Nony is definitely using the metagame to his advantage. And 1 gate expand is bad for all the reasons that the last game showed. | ||
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Farone
Netherlands1219 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:50 SilentBonjwa wrote: not really, aLive didnt lose a TvT in months ^^ ggs TL + Show Spoiler + TaeJa beat aLive 2-0 at GSL code S 2:0, first match was 2-1 for aLive though | ||
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how2TL
1197 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:59 CosmicSpiral wrote: And 1 gate expand is bad for all the reasons that the last game showed. Well it was a 3 gate expand though. | ||
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FlyingTurtle
United States248 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:59 CosmicSpiral wrote: And 1 gate expand is bad for all the reasons that the last game showed. That's because he does it TOO consistently and Moon basically played super greedy with the drone up. Nony didn't pressure him quickly enough. If he did the 1gate expo as his main build with an occasional FFE and an infrequent 1base aggression opening he would have a very flexible opening repertoire with the ability to mindgame any opponent. Instead, he did the safe expo every game and Moon figured out the pattern. Predictability leads to exploitation. | ||
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MrFrenchy
Canada37 Posts
It's also nice to see a pro show that gateway expand pvz builds are still viable. | ||
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SilentBonjwa
Germany119 Posts
On April 17 2012 14:01 Farone wrote: + Show Spoiler + TaeJa beat aLive 2-0 at GSL code S 2:0, first match was 2-1 for aLive though TaeJa yet has to beat MMA, MKP and Polt in a row to be considered as good TvT as aLive imo, but they are sure both great players. | ||
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StaplerPhone
United States813 Posts
On April 17 2012 14:01 Farone wrote: + Show Spoiler + TaeJa beat aLive 2-0 at GSL code S 2:0, first match was 2-1 for aLive though That was jjackji not alive | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On April 17 2012 14:01 Farone wrote: + Show Spoiler + TaeJa beat aLive 2-0 at GSL code S 2:0, first match was 2-1 for aLive though aLive dropped out of Code S because of losses to July and Leenock, i'm pretty sure you mean Jjakji... | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On April 17 2012 14:05 FlyingTurtle wrote: That's because he does it TOO consistently and Moon basically played super greedy with the drone up. Nony didn't pressure him quickly enough. If he did the 1gate expo as his main build with an occasional FFE and an infrequent 1base aggression opening he would have a very flexible opening repertoire with the ability to mindgame any opponent. Instead, he did the safe expo every game and Moon figured out the pattern. Predictability leads to exploitation. I have yet to see 1 gate expand consistently work against a top-level zerg and Moon is not a top-level zerg at the moment. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:38 SabreUK wrote: ByuL > Zenio aLive > HerO Taeja > Rain Moon > NonY 3-1 Fnatic is my prediction ... Well played ... | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
not really, aLive didnt lose a TvT in months ^^ Taeja 3-1 aLive in the ESV Grand Prix in Feb | ||
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HuKPOWA
United States1604 Posts
On April 17 2012 13:49 ninjamyst wrote: lol...how is HerO loosing 2-1 to IPL4 champion letting TL down...I agree to an extend that Zenio got a little too greedy with his builds but imo, he's still the better player based on the 2nd macro game by losing a team match....next.... | ||
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SilentBonjwa
Germany119 Posts
right, but that wasnt such a big tournament afair ? well its 2 months ago, Iam sure players shape changed from then. | ||
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