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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11108 Posts
April 09 2012 04:59 GMT
#13701
I feel sorry for Alive because Squirtle's play is not letting him get the hype to make his win epic.

Alive has not done anything spectacular because he hasn't needed to. His heavy marine force has done surprisingly well with Squirtle's semi sloppy FFs. Earlier in the day Squirtle's builds did it for him, now they're just falling apart.

Now Cloud kingdom...

If there's a map Toss should win it is this. If there's a map Terran should cheese...
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
April 09 2012 04:59 GMT
#13702
On April 09 2012 13:58 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:56 Synwave wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:54 Scufo wrote:
One more game for Alive, six more for Squirtle.

IPL used double elim format, it's super effective...


You do realize that if it was single elimination Squirtle would be out and NesTea would have lost to aLive in the finals?

You say that like its a bad thing!


In my opinion as the spectator, more games=better But I can accept a lot of arguments for otherwise.

Yeah Im a bit ambivalent about which way I prefer a tournie to be run, I just am a Nestea fan hehe
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 09 2012 04:59 GMT
#13703
On April 09 2012 13:57 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:56 Synwave wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:54 Scufo wrote:
One more game for Alive, six more for Squirtle.

IPL used double elim format, it's super effective...


You do realize that if it was single elimination Squirtle would be out and NesTea would have lost to aLive in the finals?

You say that like its a bad thing!

yea 2nd place is better than 3rd place! lol more games is good too though


Squirtle would have been out in first round of championship bracket losing 2-1 to NesTea o.O
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 09 2012 04:59 GMT
#13704
aLive just close it out and cash out!
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TL+ Member
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 05:00:13
April 09 2012 04:59 GMT
#13705
On April 09 2012 13:58 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:57 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just curious, am i the only one who is getting constant commercials, even during the games?

What browser are you using? I was having identical problems and then I refreshed it inside of Chrome


I'm using chrome It keeps like "lagging" or acting like its lagging, but its just another fucking commercial starting up.\

If this fucking meow mix ad goes off one more time when im trying to watch the fucking game im going to flip out.
Jieun <3
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 09 2012 04:59 GMT
#13706
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:



Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas
blah blah blah...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 09 2012 04:59 GMT
#13707
On April 09 2012 13:59 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:57 Die4Ever wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:56 Synwave wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:54 Scufo wrote:
One more game for Alive, six more for Squirtle.

IPL used double elim format, it's super effective...


You do realize that if it was single elimination Squirtle would be out and NesTea would have lost to aLive in the finals?

You say that like its a bad thing!

yea 2nd place is better than 3rd place! lol more games is good too though


Squirtle would have been out in first round of championship bracket losing 2-1 to NesTea o.O

yea and that meh aLive vs Nestea series would have been the finals
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McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
April 09 2012 05:00 GMT
#13708
On April 09 2012 13:59 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 McFeser wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:57 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just curious, am i the only one who is getting constant commercials, even during the games?

What browser are you using? I was having identical problems and then I refreshed it inside of Chrome


I'm using chrome It keeps like "lagging" or acting like its lagging, but its just another fucking commercial starting up.

Try restarting. I don't know. I've had problem like this before and it had nothing to do with my internet connection.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 09 2012 05:00 GMT
#13709
On April 09 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:56 Exempt. wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.


The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.

If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.

That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 09 2012 05:00 GMT
#13710
On April 09 2012 13:59 slicknav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoWP2Y1u18&t=2m50s

Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas


now it's on the internet, and it'll stay there forever for sure.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 09 2012 05:00 GMT
#13711
On April 09 2012 13:58 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:53 mango_destroyer wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote:
Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...


He is probably running out of gas and had to play pretty quickly after the Nestea series.


I don't think you can use that as an excuse. Squirtle had practiced aggressively for both the GSTL finals and this tournament. In other words, he clearly has the endurance to play two sets. Especially, when Korean pros play 8-10 hours on average.

Side note: If this was a foreigner vs a korean (squirtle) in the finals and he was down 0-2 the excuse would be that he's "jetlagged" lmao.

lol. Like a foreigner would be able to make it this far, or be up 2-0 in a championship series.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
April 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#13712
On April 09 2012 13:59 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 McFeser wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:57 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just curious, am i the only one who is getting constant commercials, even during the games?

What browser are you using? I was having identical problems and then I refreshed it inside of Chrome


I'm using chrome It keeps like "lagging" or acting like its lagging, but its just another fucking commercial starting up.\

If this fucking meow mix ad goes off one more time when im trying to watch the fucking game im going to flip out.


Maybe is your connection or equipment. I'm using Chrome and I see it perfectly...
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#13713
On April 09 2012 14:00 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:56 Exempt. wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.


The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.

If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.

That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final


Upholding the integrity of the tournament is more important.

You're going to have people that are mad either way, but this way you're at least keeping the tournament honest.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
April 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#13714
On April 09 2012 13:59 slicknav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoWP2Y1u18&t=2m50s

Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas

First time trees shoe?

wtf is he saying???
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#13715
On April 09 2012 14:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 14:00 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:56 Exempt. wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.


The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.

If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.

That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final


Upholding the integrity of the tournament is more important.

You're going to have people that are mad either way, but this way you're at least keeping the tournament honest.

I agree. You're never going to please everyone but better to have it fair
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#13716
On April 09 2012 14:00 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:59 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 McFeser wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:57 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just curious, am i the only one who is getting constant commercials, even during the games?

What browser are you using? I was having identical problems and then I refreshed it inside of Chrome


I'm using chrome It keeps like "lagging" or acting like its lagging, but its just another fucking commercial starting up.

Try restarting. I don't know. I've had problem like this before and it had nothing to do with my internet connection.

I recommend Firefox, Chrome doesn't work well with Twitch for me for some reason
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#13717
On April 09 2012 14:00 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:59 slicknav wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoWP2Y1u18&t=2m50s

Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas


now it's on the internet, and it'll stay there forever for sure.

To say it better: What goes on the internet, stays on the internet :p
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13718
On April 09 2012 14:00 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:56 Exempt. wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.


The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.

If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.

That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final


how would single elimination make these games anymore exciting? double elimination has just as much chance for a boring and/or exciting finals.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 05:04:01
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13719
On April 09 2012 13:59 slicknav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoWP2Y1u18&t=2m50s

Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas


I can't tell what he said at 2:50,can anyone tell.

Edit: LOL i wasted my 500th post.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13720
Wow looks like another build order loss, kinda anticlimatic
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