I feel sorry for Alive because Squirtle's play is not letting him get the hype to make his win epic.
Alive has not done anything spectacular because he hasn't needed to. His heavy marine force has done surprisingly well with Squirtle's semi sloppy FFs. Earlier in the day Squirtle's builds did it for him, now they're just falling apart.
Now Cloud kingdom...
If there's a map Toss should win it is this. If there's a map Terran should cheese...
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote: wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.
tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.
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Double elimination is extremely standard?
Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.
It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.
If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.
the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.
The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.
If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.
That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote: Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...
He is probably running out of gas and had to play pretty quickly after the Nestea series.
I don't think you can use that as an excuse. Squirtle had practiced aggressively for both the GSTL finals and this tournament. In other words, he clearly has the endurance to play two sets. Especially, when Korean pros play 8-10 hours on average.
Side note: If this was a foreigner vs a korean (squirtle) in the finals and he was down 0-2 the excuse would be that he's "jetlagged" lmao.
lol. Like a foreigner would be able to make it this far, or be up 2-0 in a championship series.
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote: wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.
tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.
??
Double elimination is extremely standard?
Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.
It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.
If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.
the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.
The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.
If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.
That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final
Upholding the integrity of the tournament is more important.
You're going to have people that are mad either way, but this way you're at least keeping the tournament honest.
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote: wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.
tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.
??
Double elimination is extremely standard?
Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.
It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.
If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.
the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.
The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.
If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.
That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final
Upholding the integrity of the tournament is more important.
You're going to have people that are mad either way, but this way you're at least keeping the tournament honest.
I agree. You're never going to please everyone but better to have it fair
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote: wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.
tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.
??
Double elimination is extremely standard?
Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.
It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.
If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.
the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.
The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.
If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.
That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final
how would single elimination make these games anymore exciting? double elimination has just as much chance for a boring and/or exciting finals.