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liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
April 09 2012 04:54 GMT
#13661
On April 09 2012 13:52 SolidMoose wrote:
I guess this answers the question if Squirtle can do anything besides two base colossus

Exactly this. What a disappointing final matchup.
Scufo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States136 Posts
April 09 2012 04:54 GMT
#13662
One more game for Alive, six more for Squirtle.

IPL used double elim format, it's super effective...
sansalvador
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria308 Posts
April 09 2012 04:54 GMT
#13663
On April 09 2012 13:53 Scribble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:51 sansalvador wrote:
Good Morning!
Just got up and didn't expect to see some live IPL action now. Has there been some downtime or was everything going as planned?


It's IPL4. Of course there has been "some" downtime. =/

Commercials between every match, long delays between sets even though there are 4 booths (2 for the current match, 2 for players on deck to set up in), and some horrible long promotional contest before the last game for losers finals.

Thanks for the update.

Still, sounds better than having surprise LoL finals before the SC2 finals. xD
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 09 2012 04:54 GMT
#13664
On April 09 2012 13:50 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:49 Jono7272 wrote:
Mia Rose making moves on Stephano?! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Ha, glad to see progamers finally getting groupies.

That's not the kind you want. It would be like throwing a hotdog down a hallway.
MC for president
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
April 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#13665
On April 09 2012 13:53 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:51 McFeser wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 ref4 wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?


It is not fair to the players. SQUIRTLE NEEDS TO WIN TWO Bo5 = SIX GAMES, that is ONE MORE than AN ENTIRE FUCKING TEAM NEEDED TO WIN IN THE GSTL.



When has Bo5 equaled 6?


winning two bo5s equals winning 6 games.

Yeah, I missed a few key words. The all caps writing was throwing me off.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
bellsNkeys
Profile Joined November 2011
United States52 Posts
April 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#13666
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


I completely agree. It's not fair to give everyone a second chance and punish the one player that performed the best just for the sake of having a "more even" finals.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
April 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#13667
I think this is awesome for fnatic and Alive, as this is (correct me if I'm wrong) the first major tournament win for a Korean picked up by a foreign team?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#13668
On April 09 2012 13:54 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote:
Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...

MKP and MMA played greedy and died to 2 base play. aLive is pretty good against protoss and his scouting all of squirtle's builds


I think aLive has learnt from MMA and MKP's mistake. They were playing greedy and blind as is pretty much stadard in current PvT meta game. But aLive is keeping right on top of scouting so he has a much better idea of what's going on.

I didnt watch the games, but I'm betting that there was some kind of "triple OC before ~15 army supply" goign on
¯\_(シ)_/¯
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
April 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#13669
On April 09 2012 13:51 sansalvador wrote:
Good Morning!
Just got up and didn't expect to see some live IPL action now. Has there been some downtime or was everything going as planned?

I think things have been going as it looks. I was surprised to know that it's still running when I woke up.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#13670
Mia Rose = porno star
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#13671
On April 09 2012 13:54 Scufo wrote:
One more game for Alive, six more for Squirtle.

IPL used double elim format, it's super effective...


You do realize that if it was single elimination Squirtle would be out and NesTea would have lost to aLive in the finals?
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
April 09 2012 04:55 GMT
#13672
Actually I just want aLive to win it. I'm as fatigued as Nestea now. Both played good enough to get here. But these guys aren't know to give awe-inspiring performances.

It's also TvP anways. :/
Someone call down the Thunder?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 04:56:24
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13673
On April 09 2012 13:51 bucckevin wrote:
These Extended series, double BO5 rules by IPL and MLG are so stupid. What's the advantage of coming from the championship/upper bracket? How about fucking playing wwwaaaayyyy less games??


What does double elimination mean to you?

How about it means that you aren't out of the tournament until you're eliminated twice. Squirtle was already eliminated once. Alive so far hasn't been he's entitled to that second life.

That's how double elimination works, if you have such a problem with it try and petition tournaments to stick with single elimination tournaments and see how that goes over.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13674
On April 09 2012 13:55 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:54 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote:
Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...

MKP and MMA played greedy and died to 2 base play. aLive is pretty good against protoss and his scouting all of squirtle's builds


I think aLive has learnt from MMA and MKP's mistake. They were playing greedy and blind as is pretty much stadard in current PvT meta game. But aLive is keeping right on top of scouting so he has a much better idea of what's going on.

I didnt watch the games, but I'm betting that there was some kind of "triple OC before ~15 army supply" goign on

I missed MKP but that's the summary I pretty much got from people. Then they both got caught off guard by 3 colossus 2 base push and died
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bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13675
On April 09 2012 13:54 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote:
Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...

MKP and MMA played greedy and died to 2 base play. aLive is pretty good against protoss and his scouting all of squirtle's builds


I think aLive has learnt from MMA and MKP's mistake. They were playing greedy and blind as is pretty much stadard in current PvT meta game. But aLive is keeping right on top of scouting so he has a much better idea of what's going on.




I dont know about the greedy part but Alive doesnt scout either.
bleuzky
Profile Joined April 2012
United States42 Posts
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13676
On April 09 2012 13:55 farvacola wrote:
I think this is awesome for fnatic and Alive, as this is (correct me if I'm wrong) the first major tournament win for a Korean picked up by a foreign team?

HerO for Dreamhack and PuMa for NASL.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13677
On April 09 2012 13:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:49 Jono7272 wrote:
Mia Rose making moves on Stephano?! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

DAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.

I mean. Indeed.

Wait . . .

Who is taking a picture of their lovemaking?
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Exempt.
Profile Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13678
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13679
On April 09 2012 13:55 trinxified wrote:
Mia Rose = porno star


Ex-porn star
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13680
On April 09 2012 13:55 farvacola wrote:
I think this is awesome for fnatic and Alive, as this is (correct me if I'm wrong) the first major tournament win for a Korean picked up by a foreign team?

Depends if you count NASL S2, IEM Cologne, or DH as "major" since EG.PuMa and Liquid'HerO won those after transferring.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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