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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
April 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#13681
On April 09 2012 13:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:54 Scufo wrote:
One more game for Alive, six more for Squirtle.

IPL used double elim format, it's super effective...


You do realize that if it was single elimination Squirtle would be out and NesTea would have lost to aLive in the finals?

You say that like its a bad thing!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13682
On April 09 2012 13:56 bucckevin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:54 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote:
Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...

MKP and MMA played greedy and died to 2 base play. aLive is pretty good against protoss and his scouting all of squirtle's builds


I think aLive has learnt from MMA and MKP's mistake. They were playing greedy and blind as is pretty much stadard in current PvT meta game. But aLive is keeping right on top of scouting so he has a much better idea of what's going on.




I dont know about the greedy part but Alive doesnt scout either.

aLive scouted the proxy stargate and saw the 7gate early enough to build 4 bunkers. MMA was standing 20 ft from his base when he saw 3 colossus and died
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iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 04:57:31
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13683
On April 09 2012 13:54 liberal wrote:
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On April 09 2012 13:52 SolidMoose wrote:
I guess this answers the question if Squirtle can do anything besides two base colossus

Exactly this. What a disappointing final matchup.

It´s funny though all of the high level terrans could not cope with that? IMHO you are giving him not enough credit. He is obviously very tired now. aLive could just watch and he relaxed while he saw everything Squirtle did.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13684
On April 09 2012 13:55 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Actually I just want aLive to win it. I'm as fatigued as Nestea now. Both played good enough to get here. But these guys aren't know to give awe-inspiring performances.

It's also TvP anways. :/


I've seen some amazing TvP games this weekend, but this series is pretty bleh atm.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13685
On April 09 2012 13:55 farvacola wrote:
I think this is awesome for fnatic and Alive, as this is (correct me if I'm wrong) the first major tournament win for a Korean picked up by a foreign team?


SKMC
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13686
On April 09 2012 13:56 Synwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:54 Scufo wrote:
One more game for Alive, six more for Squirtle.

IPL used double elim format, it's super effective...


You do realize that if it was single elimination Squirtle would be out and NesTea would have lost to aLive in the finals?

You say that like its a bad thing!

yea 2nd place is better than 3rd place! lol more games is good too though
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13687
On April 09 2012 13:56 bleuzky wrote:
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On April 09 2012 13:55 farvacola wrote:
I think this is awesome for fnatic and Alive, as this is (correct me if I'm wrong) the first major tournament win for a Korean picked up by a foreign team?

HerO for Dreamhack and PuMa for NASL.

Damn, I'm a huge noob, I watched both of those Still, great for Fnatic! I'll take my step back now.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13688
Just curious, am i the only one who is getting constant commercials, even during the games?
Jieun <3
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13689
On April 09 2012 13:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:55 farvacola wrote:
I think this is awesome for fnatic and Alive, as this is (correct me if I'm wrong) the first major tournament win for a Korean picked up by a foreign team?


SKMC

and Liquid Hero hahaha
EG Puma
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FluoCrazyKenny
Profile Joined July 2011
France90 Posts
April 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#13690
On April 09 2012 13:56 McFeser wrote:
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On April 09 2012 13:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:49 Jono7272 wrote:
Mia Rose making moves on Stephano?! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

DAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.

I mean. Indeed.

Wait . . .

Who is taking a picture of their lovemaking?

Demuslim. Who else ?
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13691
That trophy feels rather generic.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Gl!tch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 04:58:27
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13692
o.0 just found this LOL:



Skip to 2:50 or so lol
“I mean, they say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time.” ― Banksy
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13693
They both looks really tired/fatigued
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13694
On April 09 2012 13:51 mordk wrote:
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On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.

Totally agreed. Just one BoX series would make a far better finals. I agree that this system is "fairer", but IMO a grand finals shouldn't be subject to these things, it should be on equal grounds. Clean slate for GF.

Agree. I understand the logic behind the double elimination, it just doesn't make the final as exciting. Every game should matter in the final.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13695
On April 09 2012 13:56 Synwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:55 Badfatpanda wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:54 Scufo wrote:
One more game for Alive, six more for Squirtle.

IPL used double elim format, it's super effective...


You do realize that if it was single elimination Squirtle would be out and NesTea would have lost to aLive in the finals?

You say that like its a bad thing!


In my opinion as the spectator, more games=better But I can accept a lot of arguments for otherwise.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13696
On April 09 2012 13:55 farvacola wrote:
I think this is awesome for fnatic and Alive, as this is (correct me if I'm wrong) the first major tournament win for a Korean picked up by a foreign team?

well does inserting the word "foreign" make you feel any better? you do realize fnatic has a full korean roster right?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13697
On April 09 2012 13:56 Exempt. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.


That's bullshit frankly.

Imagine for a moment that Nestea had been the one to advance from the lower backet and goes on to defeat alive in the first set of the finals 3-2.

That would make their total championship bracket record tied at 5-5 but Nestea wins because he won the series that mattered?

If you're going to do double elimination you do double elimination. That's how rules work.
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McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13698
On April 09 2012 13:57 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just curious, am i the only one who is getting constant commercials, even during the games?

What browser are you using? I was having identical problems and then I refreshed it inside of Chrome
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13699
On April 09 2012 13:56 Exempt. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.


The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.

If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
April 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#13700
On April 09 2012 13:53 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote:
Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...


He is probably running out of gas and had to play pretty quickly after the Nestea series.


I don't think you can use that as an excuse. Squirtle had practiced aggressively for both the GSTL finals and this tournament. In other words, he clearly has the endurance to play two sets. Especially, when Korean pros play 8-10 hours on average.

Side note: If this was a foreigner vs a korean (squirtle) in the finals and he was down 0-2 the excuse would be that he's "jetlagged" lmao.
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