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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13721
wow i guess it's good to have 'new' players win big things.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13722
On April 09 2012 14:00 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:56 Exempt. wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.


The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.

If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.

That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final


Sure, I guess... That's not really something I was contesting. I was just giving my opinion on the subject.
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13723
squirtle looked settled to take the 16k he doesnt have any juice to spare
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 05:03:42
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13724
I really like that aLive is just throwing up standard play in all of these games, aha 5 rax after 17cc, this is like the only build he uses on ladder. I'd wish he'd stream more though so I don't have to go through his match history to see

edit: lol to whoever said aLive doesn't scout. The base was literally black in both of MMAs games, didn't see MKP
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
illumn
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand437 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13725
On April 09 2012 14:01 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 14:00 McFeser wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:59 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 McFeser wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:57 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just curious, am i the only one who is getting constant commercials, even during the games?

What browser are you using? I was having identical problems and then I refreshed it inside of Chrome


I'm using chrome It keeps like "lagging" or acting like its lagging, but its just another fucking commercial starting up.

Try restarting. I don't know. I've had problem like this before and it had nothing to do with my internet connection.

I recommend Firefox, Chrome doesn't work well with Twitch for me for some reason


Chrome has no problems for me. Caveat: I run with adblock.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13726
On April 09 2012 14:01 liberal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:59 slicknav wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:



Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas

First time trees shoe?

wtf is he saying???


first time strip show
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13727
On April 09 2012 14:02 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:59 slicknav wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoWP2Y1u18&t=2m50s

Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas


I can't tell what he said at 2:50,can anyone tell.

Not sure, he just looks like he's massively hungover lol
jk
¯\_(シ)_/¯
FluoCrazyKenny
Profile Joined July 2011
France90 Posts
April 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#13728
On April 09 2012 14:00 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:53 mango_destroyer wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote:
Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...


He is probably running out of gas and had to play pretty quickly after the Nestea series.


I don't think you can use that as an excuse. Squirtle had practiced aggressively for both the GSTL finals and this tournament. In other words, he clearly has the endurance to play two sets. Especially, when Korean pros play 8-10 hours on average.

Side note: If this was a foreigner vs a korean (squirtle) in the finals and he was down 0-2 the excuse would be that he's "jetlagged" lmao.

lol. Like a foreigner would be able to make it this far, or be up 2-0 in a championship series.

If I remember well, that what's stephano did on IPL3
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
April 09 2012 05:03 GMT
#13729
Alive has some really good builds for the finals here, i want squirtle to win but alive is playing really well.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
April 09 2012 05:03 GMT
#13730
On April 09 2012 14:01 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 14:00 McFeser wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:59 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 McFeser wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:57 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Just curious, am i the only one who is getting constant commercials, even during the games?

What browser are you using? I was having identical problems and then I refreshed it inside of Chrome


I'm using chrome It keeps like "lagging" or acting like its lagging, but its just another fucking commercial starting up.

Try restarting. I don't know. I've had problem like this before and it had nothing to do with my internet connection.

I recommend Firefox, Chrome doesn't work well with Twitch for me for some reason


I just opened it in Firefox now... a whole 2 minutes without meow mix commercial, massive improvement.
Jieun <3
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
April 09 2012 05:03 GMT
#13731
On April 09 2012 14:02 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:59 slicknav wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoWP2Y1u18&t=2m50s

Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas


I can't tell what he said at 2:50,can anyone tell.


"first time strip show"

is what i understand
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
April 09 2012 05:03 GMT
#13732
I knew Alive was gonna do some kind of hyper aggressive push
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
April 09 2012 05:03 GMT
#13733
On April 09 2012 14:02 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 14:00 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:56 Exempt. wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:52 Mordiford wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:47 Plexa wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:44 illumn wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 ref4 wrote:
wow TWO Bo5's This is fucking ridiculous for Squirtle.

tournaments NEED to get rid of these fucking retarded extended series and just stick with the normal Ro32 SINGLE elimination format.


??

Double elimination is extremely standard?

Yeah, but I think what he's getting at is that the fairness of giving the WB winner an advantage should be reconsidered because it makes for a poor finals. Having both players start off fresh and having only one bo5 would make for a better final than two bo5, even though it is less 'fair'.


It's a lot less fair and I don't think that it's worth making that kind of sacrifice for a more even final. This is a crux of double elimination, but you can't just give everyone a shot at double elimination except for the player who performed the best in the tournament.

If you don't want the double Bo5 finals then I'm fine with single elimination tournaments but I absolutely do not agree with removing double elimination at the last minute just to force a closer final.


the advantage is that you played a dozen less games and makes the finals more interesting.


The disadvantage is that it's not fucking fair to the winner's bracket finalist who only gets to drop one series while everyone else in the tournament gets to drop two. That's a pretty big fucking disadvantage.

If it wasn't double elimination, Alive would have potentially won already.

That's a decision every tournament needs to make for itself, right? Whether or not upholding the fairness of double elimination is more important than the potential of a terrible final


how would single elimination make these games anymore exciting? double elimination has just as much chance for a boring and/or exciting finals.


I totally agree that single elimination is the way to go, it gives much more room for unknowns to advance further and for upsets to happen anywhere. That's exciting for me.

But if you're going to opt for double elimination you have to play it all the way out. Otherwise you're turning your tournament into a reality show where the end result is borderline scripted. That's unacceptable.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
April 09 2012 05:03 GMT
#13734
On April 09 2012 14:00 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:58 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:53 mango_destroyer wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:51 StyLeD wrote:
Squirtle 2-0 Bomber, 2-0 MarineKing, 2-0 MMA, 0-3 Alive? WTF I need an explanation...


He is probably running out of gas and had to play pretty quickly after the Nestea series.


I don't think you can use that as an excuse. Squirtle had practiced aggressively for both the GSTL finals and this tournament. In other words, he clearly has the endurance to play two sets. Especially, when Korean pros play 8-10 hours on average.

Side note: If this was a foreigner vs a korean (squirtle) in the finals and he was down 0-2 the excuse would be that he's "jetlagged" lmao.

lol. Like a foreigner would be able to make it this far, or be up 2-0 in a championship series.


You completely missed the point. The point that I was trying to make is the fact that this community comes up with so many excuses.

Also, you never know. Anythings possible unless it were Brood War.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#13735
On April 09 2012 14:02 KimJongChill wrote:
wow i guess it's good to have 'new' players win big things.

Why would you think that?
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
April 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#13736
could have kite shot with the stalkers a lot more.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
April 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#13737
come on Squirtle, give me an epic finals!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
PattyJ
Profile Joined August 2010
United States153 Posts
April 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#13738
On April 09 2012 14:01 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 14:00 FliedLice wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:59 slicknav wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:58 Gl!tch wrote:
o.0 just found this LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoWP2Y1u18&t=2m50s

Skip to 2:50 or so lol


srsly...what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas


now it's on the internet, and it'll stay there forever for sure.

To say it better: What goes on the internet, stays on the internet :p


unless slayersjessica is involved
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11089 Posts
April 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#13739
I wish stalker micro could be like dragoon micro.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#13740
With better micro, Squirtle would have held that without being behind :/
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