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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
April 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#10001
On April 09 2012 10:19 dabom88 wrote:
THAT is how you hold off a Bunker Rush. Pull off A LOT of drones.


And still don't be ahead economically :>
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
April 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#10002
well, that wasnt a perfect hold at all
biteMe
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany241 Posts
April 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#10003
this looks very much like that strategy game you would expect.. allin a bunker rush where no one can scout ur crap
I am very mad because i am german. Also i hate web 2.0.
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
April 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#10004
hmm...Alive really likes to cheese in the final games of each series. Might be something worth noting for his opponents.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
April 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#10005
Professor MoriariTEA!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#10006
On April 09 2012 10:20 Sein wrote:
hmm...Alive really likes to cheese in the final games of each series. Might be something worth noting for his opponents.

this isnt the final game. it's bo5
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Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
April 09 2012 01:21 GMT
#10007
On April 09 2012 10:15 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 10:13 JJH777 wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:12 drbrown wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:10 JJH777 wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:09 nuMi22 wrote:
Nestea would have gotten smashed by any other terran in the championship bracket. The bracket literally could not have been more perfect for him. Alive taking out all the terrans that would clean 2-0 him no problem while he played other matchups, getting to play Alive's weaker matchup in the final.


He wouldn't have got smashed by anyone. Maybe MMA and MKP would have been favorites. I'd argue Bomber's TvZ is just as bad as Alive's if not worse.


MMA, MKP and Polt would probably win these games, aLive just isn't as clean with his micro and decision making in TvZ.


Polt is really overrated.

Overrated yes, but still good enough to beat Nestea.


TvZ may be but his TvT and TvP are very good!
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 09 2012 01:21 GMT
#10008
On April 09 2012 10:19 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 10:18 Thrax wrote:
On April 09 2012 10:17 drbrown wrote:
Please dont let this series end in a bunker rush

please

don't worry, it's bo5.

dont let it end in two bunker rushes!!


Or three, one of which is unsuccessful.
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
April 09 2012 01:21 GMT
#10009
Are we still calling bunker rushes cheesy?

Come on people, you should understand TvZ by now.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
April 09 2012 01:21 GMT
#10010
I wonder how much you can tell about a pro's personality from looking at his MU stats:

aLive: Absolutely phenomenal TvT, great TvP, but bad TvZ

MMA: Monster TvZ, great TvT but abysmal TvP

MKP: great all around lol

MVP: 70% in everything until his wrists exploded
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
April 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#10011
On April 09 2012 10:20 Sein wrote:
hmm...Alive really likes to cheese in the final games of each series. Might be something worth noting for his opponents.


12/14 with a few SCV's isn't that cheesy.
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
April 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#10012
Goddamnit, anyone having Korean stream's sound desynced with the video?
Sound is 1 second slower than video
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
April 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#10013
On April 09 2012 10:20 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 10:19 dabom88 wrote:
THAT is how you hold off a Bunker Rush. Pull off A LOT of drones.


And still don't be ahead economically :>


I've recently switched to zerg, and I'm confused by how easy bunker rushes are to hold. I just pull 10+ drones and it gets crushed easily. I'm always confused when so few drones are pulled.

You say you won't be ahead economically, but aren't you free to drone for a few rounds after you stop the rush?
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
April 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#10014
On April 09 2012 10:21 forsooth wrote:
Are we still calling bunker rushes cheesy?

Come on people, you should understand TvZ by now.


I was about to say, Its litterally the second bread and butter of TvZ after reactor hellion.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 01:23:03
April 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#10015
On April 09 2012 10:13 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 10:11 Vindicare605 wrote:
Nestea is playing Zerg the way I feel it should be played.

It didn't matter that he was being cost inefficient, it didn't matter that he kept losing a ton of units. He just kept attacking, kept trading, kept picking away at his opponent and Alive eventually folded. The Zerg swarm is endless and unrelenting and they will just win if you play by attrition.

Alive I don't think at any point in that game felt comfortable. He was seeing Nestea's Mutalisks under his bed before he went to sleep and in his mirror when he's brushing his teeth. Awesome way to play.

That style would get completely smashed by anyone confident enough in their micro skills to try and split vs offcreep banes, confidence aLive has clearly shown to lack.




What I've noticed from watching MMA and MKP play their styles is that when players are CONSTANTLY fending off harassment and playing defensively they make more mistakes then when they are playing with some semblence of comfort.

When you play the infestor style, you cannot pressure the same way. It's a great way to play defensively and kill armies out on the map, but you lack that pressure factor that Mutalisks provide, and anyone that's played against a Zerg player with good muta contro knows, they get into your head. You're constantly playing with this semi-paranoia that mutalisks are about to show up and it makes everything else you do in game, be it macro or micro that much more difficult.

That's just what I've noticed anyway. You're right in that it's an inferior style when your opponent plays perfectly, but it's so much more difficult to play perfectly when the pace of the game is sped up like that.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
April 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#10016
its best of 5, not best of 3, still 2 more games at least
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 09 2012 01:22 GMT
#10017
On April 09 2012 10:22 JiPrime wrote:
Goddamnit, anyone having Korean stream's sound desynced with the video?
Sound is 1 second slower than video

Yeah it's been desynced for a while
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Dont-Panic
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 01:23:15
April 09 2012 01:23 GMT
#10018
NesTea produces Roaches. Very good. He should be able to defend against the blue flame hellions.

Edit: Did he cancel blue flame?
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 09 2012 01:23 GMT
#10019
Roach ling bane allin, this could work quite well, but if aLive holds, 2 fac siege tanks will wreck NesTea in a counterattack
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
haegN
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway547 Posts
April 09 2012 01:23 GMT
#10020
Gotta love that Terran move: "Either I win right now, or I am ahead economically".. This is not a balance complaint btw =P I just dont like low risk high reward early game builds.
None can give you skills, ubermicro, wins or anything. If you are man - you take it!
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