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On April 09 2012 04:36 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 04:35 tdt wrote:On April 09 2012 04:31 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Immortal are pretty good against roaches :D Should be. It's thier hard counter and stalkers are soft counter. Nestea probably shouldnt have built 100% roach against two counters. Blink stalkers are a counter, dont' think stalkers without blink are a good counter vs roaches with speed, wouldn't even classify it as a soft counter other then the early game before roach speed 
He had blink. But yeah I was not specific. Anyways terrible engagment terrible unit compistion by nestea.
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On April 09 2012 04:38 Oboeman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 04:36 ZenithM wrote:On April 09 2012 04:35 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 09 2012 04:35 illumn wrote:
This is like that time that Terran--can't remember who--forgets to research siege mode and everyone was like "LOL THIS IS HOW YOU HOLD A 1-1-1" Touché That Terran was Thorzain. He always forgets siege :p everyone forgets siege. It happens so often that sometimes I wonder if it's on purpose. I remember a game where demuslim forgot siege and won anyway. I've seen nada forget siege mode 3-4 times in important games, but I don't think they were 1-1-1s. mostly tvt or tvz. how hard is it to remember siege?
I forget siege constantly.. the tank should get a fancy recolour or something when you do have siege mode. Like with roaches.
To answer your question, pretty hard. Like a moving with our marines.
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On April 09 2012 04:37 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 04:37 Mtuhk wrote:On April 09 2012 04:33 Maghetti wrote:
I don't know why protosses are having an issue with the mass roach. Some forcefields and 3-5 immortals slaughter mass roach. Problem is the timing. When it hits @ when Stephano originally did it, the only way to shut it down is to commit every chrono boost and lots of resources to robo production (preferably 2 robo's producing Immortals) which forces Protoss to pretty much one tech path unless they get a 3rd, which Stephano allways denied. It's a metagame thing, right now it works, but give it a few months and it will be just one more thing 'tosses prepare against, another "cheese" if you will. Well tosses on kr have already shown they can hold it, white ra showed he could hold it just fine vs stephano on cloud kingdom.
Yeah, it's by no means impossible to hold. It's just something "new", and people are palying rather greedily as long as they can get away with it. Right now we can't, not against this specific build (i'm even seeing it at diamond league levels), so we have to start commiting more on "what if" instead of "what can i get away with?"
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Thank you, dApollo, for correcting HD's suggestion that Squirtle's build was the same as Game 1. Geez...1 gate-twilight before +1 or robo is highly different.
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On April 09 2012 04:30 FreudianTrip wrote:
I feel kind of bad for badmouthing Squirtle for his 2 base all-ins on the Korean Weekly. Meh fuck it, dude just beat Nestea doubt he cares what I think.
And then he goes 2 base DT. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Nestea 
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DTs could take the win here.
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On April 09 2012 04:37 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 04:37 Mtuhk wrote:On April 09 2012 04:33 Maghetti wrote:
I don't know why protosses are having an issue with the mass roach. Some forcefields and 3-5 immortals slaughter mass roach. Problem is the timing. When it hits @ when Stephano originally did it, the only way to shut it down is to commit every chrono boost and lots of resources to robo production (preferably 2 robo's producing Immortals) which forces Protoss to pretty much one tech path unless they get a 3rd, which Stephano allways denied. It's a metagame thing, right now it works, but give it a few months and it will be just one more thing 'tosses prepare against, another "cheese" if you will. Well tosses on kr have already shown they can hold it, white ra showed he could hold it just fine vs stephano on cloud kingdom. Just a little longer till Foreign tosses figure it out like mutalisks (i'm assuming foreign tosses are good vs muta's now finally?)
No they cant hold it. Just look at JYP yesteday. What Nestea did was not the stephano build. show me 1 game where a korean player play against the 12min max out and hold it without the zerg do mistake
You cant
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On April 09 2012 04:37 dpurple wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 04:36 najreteip wrote:On April 09 2012 04:35 FliedLice wrote:On April 09 2012 04:34 Oboeman wrote:On April 09 2012 04:33 najreteip wrote:On April 09 2012 04:32 whiterabbit wrote:
Wait, what. Demuslim gave remake to Scarlett over Scarlett's mistake in build order?! Or I heard it wrongly? manner into 0-2 Effectively 2-1 so no one can really complain about it. doesn't work like that. If it was Demuslim's choice then no-one CAN complain about it Really? I think its just as bad as Naniwas probe rush. You dont throw a game, ever.
Not the same, he didn't throw the game. He showed good manner and lost after that.
Demuslim's made me even more of a fan right now
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Nestea gonna die to dt again !
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This's obviously over lol
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no
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He's making a lair and an evo right now
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The IPLliveu Steam is right next to Polt hope he doesn't get distracted by anything ....
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Oh inca where have you been
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nestea really dead for DT?
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wow Nestea, such a mindgame
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Uh, ok that's GG I guess.
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EPT
