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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7641
On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:11 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:08 scaban84 wrote:
[quote]
Yeah exactly he's Korean and a pro. Which means he does what he's paid to do. Your post makes no sense. Do you understand that LAN would not have fixed that drop?

yes it would have. it was an internet issue, LAN doesnt use the internet.

didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN?

link? even if they did say that i call BS



you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS?


How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW?

1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater.

Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this.

are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future?


I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never.


So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here?

You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene


Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

Show nested quote +
i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue.


I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.




Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.
infey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada64 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7642
On April 08 2012 12:25 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:11 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:08 scaban84 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:06 Tobblish wrote:
[quote]

And if the teams actually had ANY balls they would just stop playing SC2 until Blizzard added LAN.
I was expecting a "gg blizzard" comment at the end but then again he's Korean =/

Yeah exactly he's Korean and a pro. Which means he does what he's paid to do. Your post makes no sense. Do you understand that LAN would not have fixed that drop?

yes it would have. it was an internet issue, LAN doesnt use the internet.

didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN?

link? even if they did say that i call BS

https://twitter.com/#!/dting888/status/188819332145479681

you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS?


How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW?

1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater.

Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this.

are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future?


I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never.

Blah blah BW.. blah blah blah BW..


Putting your hands over your ears doesn't make facts go away.
Warlike Prince
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
371 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7643
On April 08 2012 12:31 Tenmagnet wrote:
mkp got way behind bomber on purpose so that he could prove that he could've come back against parting despite being behind


I BELIEVE... no i dont but MKP is such a baller it might be true
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7644
On April 08 2012 12:27 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:27 Fubi wrote:
ST can still win if Squirtle beats MKP. Byun isn't anything special when it comes to TvP so Squirtle should have the edge there, and Creator is still just a PvP, with Curious left as well.


Rooting for Squirtle here but that's a big if. Parting is the better PvT'er on ST.

Chances are each player practiced a specific map, so that's probably why Squirtle is sent even though MKP is very good at TvP.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7645

On April 08 2012 12:30 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:29 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:25 mycro wrote:
I started out cheering for Prime, now I want Prime to lose so much.



Why?

People are really mad about the whole Parting/Marineking/Disconnect thing

Idk.. I just accept that there's nothing you can do about it. It's disappointing for sure and I can't even imagine how Startale feels about it, but I'm just going to try and make the most of the viewing experience


why would that make you cheer against prime? I get the ruling was unreasonable but seriously you're going to stop cheering for a team because of something that was completely out of their control?


Shhhh, logic doesn't work on those people.


So sad, but so true. This is worse than reddit in some ways.
secret - never again
DrOmni
Profile Joined March 2011
United States128 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7646
Every bit of the rage felt by all parties shouldn't even be directed at either team or the refs. The decision should NEVER have had to been made if Blizzard would just allow there to be some LAN function (even if that meant one somehow designed only for big tournaments).

Everyone bashing on MKP needs to manner the fuck up as well. He wasn't in on the decision, and he is visibly upset and a little off because of the event.
"Marcus, that is also not a good use of a third command center!" - Day9
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7647
I have a feeling we see another 3 base 9 rax 20 minute factoryless build again? ;b
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7648
On April 08 2012 12:31 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:28 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 gideel wrote:
the king is SMASHING nerds left and right


no he's not :/

beat by parting then almost beat by bomber

smash them nerds mkp

He wasn't beat by Parting



yes he was

you must have amazing analytical skills considering all you did was watch the game live, see a screenshot of the unit count, and an army graph at the end.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7649
Cool a song about incontrol.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7650
On April 08 2012 12:31 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


Man getting a free win in a game you lost must be soooooo haaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddd


Douchebag posts like this should be an insta ban

Can you not understand the stress he must be feeling right now? Instead you sit at your computer chair and haughtily hate on him for osmething entirely out of his control.

How are you even sane?

You're implying he is even sane.
blinkingangels
Profile Joined June 2011
105 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7651
On April 08 2012 12:31 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:28 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 gideel wrote:
the king is SMASHING nerds left and right


no he's not :/

beat by parting then almost beat by bomber

smash them nerds mkp

He wasn't beat by Parting



yes he was

Nope.
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7652
On April 08 2012 12:31 s3rp wrote:
The best thing Prime could do is try to offer to share the prizemoney 50/50 with Startale if they win. I mean its not Primes fault how the refs decided it but its really dicey if they do nothing.

Despite the fact that Prime defeated StarTale in RO6 and now they have to defeat StarTale again?
Talk about fair...
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7653
This finals is AMAZING. I love MKP and he beat partying and bomber so well. I think i'm in love with the GSTL now ! oh yeaaaaaaa <3<3
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7654
On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:11 L3g3nd_ wrote:
[quote]
yes it would have. it was an internet issue, LAN doesnt use the internet.

didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN?

link? even if they did say that i call BS

https://twitter.com/#!/dting888/status/188819332145479681

you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS?


How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW?

1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater.

Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this.

are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future?


I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never.


So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here?

You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene


Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue.


I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.




Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.


I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7655
On April 08 2012 12:30 SolidMoose wrote:
If you've stopped becoming a fan of Prime after this, you were never a fan of Prime


This. So many Posers that blame prime on the decision by GOM'S JUDGE over a situation caused by BLIZZARD'S NO LAN

"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7656
On April 08 2012 12:32 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 Jisall wrote:
You got this squirtle
[image loading]

Reminds me of that Saber Rider robot in attack mode.


<3 thats the first thing I thought of too, that's a sick picture though
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7657
On April 08 2012 12:31 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


Man getting a free win in a game you lost must be soooooo haaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddd


Douchebag posts like this should be an insta ban

Can you not understand the stress he must be feeling right now? Instead you sit at your computer chair and haughtily hate on him for osmething entirely out of his control.

How are you even sane?

I'm sure getting to replay a game that you clearly lost is very stressful.
We're all just so ignorant.
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 03:34:11
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7658
On April 08 2012 12:32 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


Man getting a free win in a game you lost must be soooooo haaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddd


Dude, it was out of his control and he now carries the weight of a potentially tainted victory, that's hard for a player to carry, think about it.


If he didn't want to carry the weight of a tainted victory, then he should have done the honorable thing and gged out.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7659
On April 08 2012 12:31 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:28 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 gideel wrote:
the king is SMASHING nerds left and right


no he's not :/

beat by parting then almost beat by bomber

smash them nerds mkp

He wasn't beat by Parting



yes he was


I am pretty sure MKP won all 3 matches, or we are watching same Stream from different universes?
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
OMGomg64
Profile Joined March 2012
Afghanistan70 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7660
People really need to not lay this at MKPs fault.. this is SOLELY the fault of blizzard. The decision should never have needed to be made in the first place.
omg!
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