• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:18
CEST 07:18
KST 14:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) JiliPark Live Casino SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Working 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 Ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Syncronization issues and can't find games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9436 users

[GSTL] 2012 Season 1 Grand Finals - Page 383

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 381 382 383 384 385 492 Next
Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
stormchaser
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1009 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7641
On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:11 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:08 scaban84 wrote:
[quote]
Yeah exactly he's Korean and a pro. Which means he does what he's paid to do. Your post makes no sense. Do you understand that LAN would not have fixed that drop?

yes it would have. it was an internet issue, LAN doesnt use the internet.

didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN?

link? even if they did say that i call BS



you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS?


How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW?

1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater.

Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this.

are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future?


I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never.


So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here?

You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene


Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

Show nested quote +
i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue.


I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.




Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.
infey
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada64 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7642
On April 08 2012 12:25 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:11 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:08 scaban84 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:06 Tobblish wrote:
[quote]

And if the teams actually had ANY balls they would just stop playing SC2 until Blizzard added LAN.
I was expecting a "gg blizzard" comment at the end but then again he's Korean =/

Yeah exactly he's Korean and a pro. Which means he does what he's paid to do. Your post makes no sense. Do you understand that LAN would not have fixed that drop?

yes it would have. it was an internet issue, LAN doesnt use the internet.

didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN?

link? even if they did say that i call BS

https://twitter.com/#!/dting888/status/188819332145479681

you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS?


How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW?

1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater.

Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this.

are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future?


I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never.

Blah blah BW.. blah blah blah BW..


Putting your hands over your ears doesn't make facts go away.
Warlike Prince
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
371 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7643
On April 08 2012 12:31 Tenmagnet wrote:
mkp got way behind bomber on purpose so that he could prove that he could've come back against parting despite being behind


I BELIEVE... no i dont but MKP is such a baller it might be true
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7644
On April 08 2012 12:27 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:27 Fubi wrote:
ST can still win if Squirtle beats MKP. Byun isn't anything special when it comes to TvP so Squirtle should have the edge there, and Creator is still just a PvP, with Curious left as well.


Rooting for Squirtle here but that's a big if. Parting is the better PvT'er on ST.

Chances are each player practiced a specific map, so that's probably why Squirtle is sent even though MKP is very good at TvP.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7645

On April 08 2012 12:30 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:29 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:25 mycro wrote:
I started out cheering for Prime, now I want Prime to lose so much.



Why?

People are really mad about the whole Parting/Marineking/Disconnect thing

Idk.. I just accept that there's nothing you can do about it. It's disappointing for sure and I can't even imagine how Startale feels about it, but I'm just going to try and make the most of the viewing experience


why would that make you cheer against prime? I get the ruling was unreasonable but seriously you're going to stop cheering for a team because of something that was completely out of their control?


Shhhh, logic doesn't work on those people.


So sad, but so true. This is worse than reddit in some ways.
secret - never again
DrOmni
Profile Joined March 2011
United States128 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7646
Every bit of the rage felt by all parties shouldn't even be directed at either team or the refs. The decision should NEVER have had to been made if Blizzard would just allow there to be some LAN function (even if that meant one somehow designed only for big tournaments).

Everyone bashing on MKP needs to manner the fuck up as well. He wasn't in on the decision, and he is visibly upset and a little off because of the event.
"Marcus, that is also not a good use of a third command center!" - Day9
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7647
I have a feeling we see another 3 base 9 rax 20 minute factoryless build again? ;b
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Forbidden17
Profile Joined December 2011
666 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7648
On April 08 2012 12:31 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:28 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 gideel wrote:
the king is SMASHING nerds left and right


no he's not :/

beat by parting then almost beat by bomber

smash them nerds mkp

He wasn't beat by Parting



yes he was

you must have amazing analytical skills considering all you did was watch the game live, see a screenshot of the unit count, and an army graph at the end.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7649
Cool a song about incontrol.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7650
On April 08 2012 12:31 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


Man getting a free win in a game you lost must be soooooo haaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddd


Douchebag posts like this should be an insta ban

Can you not understand the stress he must be feeling right now? Instead you sit at your computer chair and haughtily hate on him for osmething entirely out of his control.

How are you even sane?

You're implying he is even sane.
blinkingangels
Profile Joined June 2011
105 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7651
On April 08 2012 12:31 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:28 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 gideel wrote:
the king is SMASHING nerds left and right


no he's not :/

beat by parting then almost beat by bomber

smash them nerds mkp

He wasn't beat by Parting



yes he was

Nope.
Xarles
Profile Joined July 2011
459 Posts
April 08 2012 03:32 GMT
#7652
On April 08 2012 12:31 s3rp wrote:
The best thing Prime could do is try to offer to share the prizemoney 50/50 with Startale if they win. I mean its not Primes fault how the refs decided it but its really dicey if they do nothing.

Despite the fact that Prime defeated StarTale in RO6 and now they have to defeat StarTale again?
Talk about fair...
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7653
This finals is AMAZING. I love MKP and he beat partying and bomber so well. I think i'm in love with the GSTL now ! oh yeaaaaaaa <3<3
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7654
On April 08 2012 12:32 stormchaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:26 Tantaburs wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:23 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:21 Milkis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:17 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:16 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:12 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:11 L3g3nd_ wrote:
[quote]
yes it would have. it was an internet issue, LAN doesnt use the internet.

didnt blizzard twitter to say that is has nothing to do with LAN?

link? even if they did say that i call BS

https://twitter.com/#!/dting888/status/188819332145479681

you dont know what happened. so how can you call BS?


How many games in BW got dropped in the history of BW?

1. And that was due to a power outage which was caused by a heater.

Even if bnet was 99.9% stable, it means that you'll have a 10% chance of it happening at least once. Even if it was 99.999% stable, the more games you pile up, you'll have dropped games. Probability wise you won't dodge the bullet forever. You'll have dropped games, and every time, it'll be like this.

are we talking about what happened today? or do you want to just talk about hypothetical situations in the future?


I'm saying that the excuse is bullshit. There was one dropped game in BW and that was literally due to a power outage. Yes, there were regames that were given thanks to hardware issues but because of connectivity? never.


So because it only happened once in BW there was no way it could have happened here?

You have no way of know what happened there is no reason to take your opinion over that of a tech guy on the scene


Your second point is a very fair point. At the same time, I think a probability of a connectivity issue thanks to b.net is far more likely than the excuse that they gave. That is all I'm saying.

i have no idea what you are even talking about. some guy said it was an internet issue. i pointed out that they said it was not an internet issue. so, wtf are you talking about? if it was not an internet issue then it was not an internet issue.


I'm saying it's very very likely an internet issue that they're covering up for PR, because chances of a random hardware failure in the middle of the match is far more slim than b.net finally dropping a game.




Funny to see you in the sc2tournaments forum.


I didn't know I wasn't allowed to watch big events anymore!
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7655
On April 08 2012 12:30 SolidMoose wrote:
If you've stopped becoming a fan of Prime after this, you were never a fan of Prime


This. So many Posers that blame prime on the decision by GOM'S JUDGE over a situation caused by BLIZZARD'S NO LAN

"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7656
On April 08 2012 12:32 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 Jisall wrote:
You got this squirtle
[image loading]

Reminds me of that Saber Rider robot in attack mode.


<3 thats the first thing I thought of too, that's a sick picture though
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7657
On April 08 2012 12:31 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


Man getting a free win in a game you lost must be soooooo haaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddd


Douchebag posts like this should be an insta ban

Can you not understand the stress he must be feeling right now? Instead you sit at your computer chair and haughtily hate on him for osmething entirely out of his control.

How are you even sane?

I'm sure getting to replay a game that you clearly lost is very stressful.
We're all just so ignorant.
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 03:34:11
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7658
On April 08 2012 12:32 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:31 A Wet Shamwow wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:30 Zebb wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Just realized how awkward it will be if MKP wins MVP too...

It's already awkward for him, you can see it when they show him on cam. Really hope it doesn't tilt him for IPL.

Also, for people paying attention, LAN isn't the solution, loading games from replays is. It solves all the connectivity and hardware problems.


Man getting a free win in a game you lost must be soooooo haaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrddddddddddddddd


Dude, it was out of his control and he now carries the weight of a potentially tainted victory, that's hard for a player to carry, think about it.


If he didn't want to carry the weight of a tainted victory, then he should have done the honorable thing and gged out.
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7659
On April 08 2012 12:31 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:28 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:28 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:27 gideel wrote:
the king is SMASHING nerds left and right


no he's not :/

beat by parting then almost beat by bomber

smash them nerds mkp

He wasn't beat by Parting



yes he was


I am pretty sure MKP won all 3 matches, or we are watching same Stream from different universes?
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
OMGomg64
Profile Joined March 2012
Afghanistan70 Posts
April 08 2012 03:33 GMT
#7660
People really need to not lay this at MKPs fault.. this is SOLELY the fault of blizzard. The decision should never have needed to be made in the first place.
omg!
Prev 1 381 382 383 384 385 492 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Playoffs Round 1
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft696
EnDerr 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 502
Hyuk 367
Leta 239
Bale 180
Barracks 119
PianO 96
sorry 64
910 63
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm250
League of Legends
JimRising 592
Counter-Strike
PGG 101
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr50
Other Games
summit1g14730
C9.Mang0333
PiGStarcraft254
XaKoH 173
Livibee162
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1854
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 95
• Letter147
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2169
League of Legends
• Lourlo1062
• Stunt348
Upcoming Events
GSL
5h 42m
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
9h 42m
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
13h 42m
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
18h 42m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 4h
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 10h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.