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MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
March 31 2012 10:21 GMT
#1401
On March 31 2012 18:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 18:50 MaNaVoId wrote:
On March 31 2012 18:36 S_SienZ wrote:
On March 31 2012 18:34 MaNaVoId wrote:
On March 31 2012 18:29 S_SienZ wrote:
Doesn't Bomber have to be part of their 7 to be eligible to be fielded though? Seems pretty unfair that teams with more aces get a bigger roster to pick from in the finals.


Unfair? Bomber earned his trip to Las vegas through the qualifier, i dun think ipl restricted how many players a team can bring, if Prime or FXO want more people , it can pay for those people through its own pocket, or ask their ace players to earn the trip through qualifiers.


Bomber earned his trip to Vegas thru the IPL QUALIFIER. While that pays his flight why should that win his team an extra roster spot in A DIFFERENT LEAGUE THAT SO HAPPENS TO BE THERE?


lol i see an angry antifan of ST. It doesnt matter how big your roster is, you can only pick 5 people in a BO9, even if it is bo11, you can only pick 6 people, so a bigger roster doesnt give Startale the advantage.


It does when it comes to matchup sniping and for the other team's prep.
It'd be harder to prep for 9 players than 6, for example.

I dun think any team that makes it into the final has such a deep line up that they have more than 7 great players of equal skills. For example , even if prime can send their entire team over, you only need to prepare for Annyeong, BBongBBong, Creator, Ghostking, Marineking, Maru and possibly Terious, and you wouldnt need to worry about the other people no matter how many there are. Surely, they can send other people to play, but sending anyone else means that 1 of their top players( Ghostking, Marineking, Maru, Creator, BBongBBong) cannot play which would be silly, since their chance of winning against the top players of startale would be somewhere like 1%. So allowing your team to bring 5 core players + 2 snipers is more than enough for the lineup of any team to support.

pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
March 31 2012 10:23 GMT
#1402
Jungwon Chae ‏ @WoWnStarcraft
Just 7 players? I don't think so
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 31 2012 10:26 GMT
#1403
On March 31 2012 19:21 MaNaVoId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 18:57 opterown wrote:
On March 31 2012 18:50 MaNaVoId wrote:
On March 31 2012 18:36 S_SienZ wrote:
On March 31 2012 18:34 MaNaVoId wrote:
On March 31 2012 18:29 S_SienZ wrote:
Doesn't Bomber have to be part of their 7 to be eligible to be fielded though? Seems pretty unfair that teams with more aces get a bigger roster to pick from in the finals.


Unfair? Bomber earned his trip to Las vegas through the qualifier, i dun think ipl restricted how many players a team can bring, if Prime or FXO want more people , it can pay for those people through its own pocket, or ask their ace players to earn the trip through qualifiers.


Bomber earned his trip to Vegas thru the IPL QUALIFIER. While that pays his flight why should that win his team an extra roster spot in A DIFFERENT LEAGUE THAT SO HAPPENS TO BE THERE?


lol i see an angry antifan of ST. It doesnt matter how big your roster is, you can only pick 5 people in a BO9, even if it is bo11, you can only pick 6 people, so a bigger roster doesnt give Startale the advantage.


It does when it comes to matchup sniping and for the other team's prep.
It'd be harder to prep for 9 players than 6, for example.

I dun think any team that makes it into the final has such a deep line up that they have more than 7 great players of equal skills. For example , even if prime can send their entire team over, you only need to prepare for Annyeong, BBongBBong, Creator, Ghostking, Marineking, Maru and possibly Terious, and you wouldnt need to worry about the other people no matter how many there are. Surely, they can send other people to play, but sending anyone else means that 1 of their top players( Ghostking, Marineking, Maru, Creator, BBongBBong) cannot play which would be silly, since their chance of winning against the top players of startale would be somewhere like 1%. So allowing your team to bring 5 core players + 2 snipers is more than enough for the lineup of any team to support.



Prime is not that deep a team, since they have some 'must-play players', but MVP is a fairly deep team:
T1: DRG, Genius, Keen, sC
T2: Monster, finale, Noblesse, Sniper, Tails, Vampire

so does, for example, FXO:
T1: Oz, Gumiho, Lucky, Leenock
T2: asd, tear, choya, thebest, whale.

Anyone from T2 could conceivably play, and they could all practice some insane matchups.

I think sending 9 over instead of 7 would alleviate some of these problems :D
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
March 31 2012 10:37 GMT
#1404
On March 31 2012 19:23 pPingu wrote:
Jungwon Chae ‏ @WoWnStarcraft
Just 7 players? I don't think so


Yea, looks like they're allowed to take more than 7. Although I guess only 7 can actually enter the IPL4 Open Bracket?
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Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 10:47:31
March 31 2012 10:41 GMT
#1405
DRG. My second favorite player. I thought his style was slump-proof. Such an idiotic thought.

If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
March 31 2012 10:52 GMT
#1406
On March 31 2012 19:37 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 19:23 pPingu wrote:
Jungwon Chae ‏ @WoWnStarcraft
Just 7 players? I don't think so


Yea, looks like they're allowed to take more than 7. Although I guess only 7 can actually enter the IPL4 Open Bracket?


no. anyone can enter the open bracket, its a matter of if it is full or not, it is just that 7 slots are booked each for the two teams.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 31 2012 10:57 GMT
#1407
Ever since GOM started playing Rebecca Black, the song has been stuck in my mind >_>
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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
March 31 2012 11:10 GMT
#1408
Damn was rooting for MVP, but StarTale has quite the lineup! Not even used July or Bomber.
On March 31 2012 19:57 Inflicted_ wrote:
Ever since GOM started playing Rebecca Black, the song has been stuck in my mind >_>


It's Friday, Friday
Gotta get down on Friday


There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 31 2012 11:17 GMT
#1409
On March 31 2012 20:10 Mithriel wrote:
Damn was rooting for MVP, but StarTale has quite the lineup! Not even used July or Bomber.
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2012 19:57 Inflicted_ wrote:
Ever since GOM started playing Rebecca Black, the song has been stuck in my mind >_>


It's Friday, Friday
Gotta get down on Friday




It was "This is my moment" actually.
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MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 11:21:59
March 31 2012 11:20 GMT
#1410
You think having an extra player in the roster is unfair? What about Startale now sending their entire 17-player-team over to Las Vegas. HAHAHAHAHA
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 31 2012 11:22 GMT
#1411
Genius is just as much of an ace player as marineking imho.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
March 31 2012 13:41 GMT
#1412
just watched it, wow
startale hawiting!!
BW hwaiting!
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 14:35:17
March 31 2012 14:30 GMT
#1413
On March 31 2012 19:41 Chunhyang wrote:
DRG. My second favorite player. I thought his style was slump-proof. Such an idiotic thought.


It's the Artosis curse man...

The only one that's been somewhat slump proof is MMA, who has been doing just better and better since his GSTL showings and his 2nd place at Super tournament. And Artosis bets against MMA like literally EVERYtime he's up against someone half decent.

edit* On a more serious note tho, it's probably just the way SC2 is, on top of the the format of GSL. You lose 2 Bo3 and you're down to Code A, and people start calling it a slump if you've won anything major. But reality is, SC2 is a very volatile game, a lot of the times, one SHORT engagement ends the game. Even if you have 65-70% win rate, it means you will eventually lose here and there, and it just so happens you lost two sets in a row that day; then everyone will be screaming slump on you for awhile cuz the next season is in 2 months
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 31 2012 14:33 GMT
#1414
poopypoopypoopy. drg losing to squirtle and genius losing to curious...
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 31 2012 15:01 GMT
#1415
Well, MMA is in a 'slump' himself... Didn't make it through the winter arena KOR qualifiers, lost to Choya in GSTL, got knocked down to Loser bracket in spring mlg KOR qualifiers by Choya again...
supsun
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom343 Posts
March 31 2012 15:24 GMT
#1416
On March 31 2012 23:33 aintz wrote:
poopypoopypoopy. drg losing to squirtle and genius losing to curious...


Are you trying to take credit away from Curious and Squirtle? Because both are 2 amazing players.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
March 31 2012 15:31 GMT
#1417
On March 31 2012 20:22 Heimatloser wrote:
Genius is just as much of an ace player as marineking imho.

MKP just won two major finals, and he has been playing shockingly good lately. I'd pick MKP over Genius as ace player right now.
"NO" -Has
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 31 2012 16:04 GMT
#1418
STQ in the finals yayyyyy Curious and Squritle stepped it up with 2 kills a piece
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
March 31 2012 16:28 GMT
#1419
Wow, I didn't think Curious would do so well.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
March 31 2012 18:12 GMT
#1420
DRG taken out...yikes...is he in a slump now? lol...losing Code S convincingly and not playing well at all in regular games
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