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JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
March 24 2012 07:40 GMT
#6761
On March 24 2012 16:35 mooseman1710 wrote:
are there any VODs up?


Just load up any particular stream and there's a timeline, you can jump to any time you want from the entire broadcast.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
March 24 2012 07:44 GMT
#6762
1st = $25,000
2nd = $15,000
3rd = $9,000
4th = $5,500
5th = $3,500
5th = $2,500
7th = $1,500
7th = $1,000


could OP fix the prizepool?

1st $25,000
2nd $15,000
3rd $9,000
4th $5,500
5th/6th $3,500
7th/8th $2,250
9th-12th $1,500
13th-16th $1,000
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
boxturtle
Profile Joined December 2011
United States224 Posts
March 24 2012 07:44 GMT
#6763
On March 24 2012 15:14 Empirimancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:54 Scila wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:16 Azarkon wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:07 Fionn wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:05 Lysanias wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:58 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:52 MattyClutch wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.


I would say overall I agree with you, but Stephano has more than shown that he can stand toe to toe with Polt. I wouldn't so easily write him off. Yes, he did lose, but he lost in a pretty great series.


Yeah Polt and Stephano are pretty evenly matched, but I really don't think Polt vZ is that good for the standard of Code S. His TvZ actually ranks 18th in Korean TLPD, not really spectacular.


I agree that there are stronger terrans vs Z but i can't name 18 better ones then Polt right now, TLPD is great but it only says overall points not the current play.


Polt's TvZ is his weak point, but he has vastly improved from where he was a while ago. He faced Leenock in Code S not too long ago and was able to go 1-1 against him, beat Nestea in the Blizzard Cup, etc. MMA, MVP (when he has wrists) and MKP are way better vZ, but Polt's pretty damn good at it.

I wouldn't mind seeing Alive vs. Stephano. That could be a good gauge of how good Stephano is and how good Polt's vZ is.


Polt is shaky vs. Stephano in macro games because he never prepares for brood lords and refuses to use ghosts.



Ghosts? Really? No top terran has used ghosts against BL/infestor since the nerf, because they're horrible. The only time I've seen them post patch is Morrow using them specifically for nukes. With no ghosts, Terran is NEVER prepared for blords. The only solution is vikings, but it is not a real solution because they get fungaled and killed off by corruptors easily. The only reason Polt won that first match is because Stephano only made 4 broodlords for whatever reason. If he had the typical 8+ number, Polt's surround move would've never worked.


If only there was a Terran unit that could easily kill or neutralize the infestors so the vikings could kill the broodlords without getting fungaled!




Siege tanks aren't that great even with good positioning and the best target fire because they stand to bombard your own army if broodlings land. Not to mention their supply/resources and linear production greatly lowers their efficiency against infestors.

Ghosts used to do that, but both Infestors and Broodlords counter them pretty hard these days.






jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 24 2012 07:48 GMT
#6764
On March 24 2012 16:44 boxturtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 15:14 Empirimancer wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:54 Scila wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:16 Azarkon wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:07 Fionn wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:05 Lysanias wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:58 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:52 MattyClutch wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:51 chosenkerrigan wrote:
On March 24 2012 13:44 lannisport wrote:
So who can actually take Stephano on in a straight up zvt? I'd really like to see him against MMA, MVP or jjakji. Not taking any credit away from Polt, but it seems like if you let Stephano macro up he will just overrun you. I think he has BETTER infestor control/BL/late game army control than ANY zerg right now, including DRG. And he shuts down drops fairly easily plus likes to play safe with spines.


Any Code S terran can take stephano in macro games, including Polt.
One perfect example would be alive, who is undefeated against stephano, and all the games weren't even close.


I would say overall I agree with you, but Stephano has more than shown that he can stand toe to toe with Polt. I wouldn't so easily write him off. Yes, he did lose, but he lost in a pretty great series.


Yeah Polt and Stephano are pretty evenly matched, but I really don't think Polt vZ is that good for the standard of Code S. His TvZ actually ranks 18th in Korean TLPD, not really spectacular.


I agree that there are stronger terrans vs Z but i can't name 18 better ones then Polt right now, TLPD is great but it only says overall points not the current play.


Polt's TvZ is his weak point, but he has vastly improved from where he was a while ago. He faced Leenock in Code S not too long ago and was able to go 1-1 against him, beat Nestea in the Blizzard Cup, etc. MMA, MVP (when he has wrists) and MKP are way better vZ, but Polt's pretty damn good at it.

I wouldn't mind seeing Alive vs. Stephano. That could be a good gauge of how good Stephano is and how good Polt's vZ is.


Polt is shaky vs. Stephano in macro games because he never prepares for brood lords and refuses to use ghosts.



Ghosts? Really? No top terran has used ghosts against BL/infestor since the nerf, because they're horrible. The only time I've seen them post patch is Morrow using them specifically for nukes. With no ghosts, Terran is NEVER prepared for blords. The only solution is vikings, but it is not a real solution because they get fungaled and killed off by corruptors easily. The only reason Polt won that first match is because Stephano only made 4 broodlords for whatever reason. If he had the typical 8+ number, Polt's surround move would've never worked.


If only there was a Terran unit that could easily kill or neutralize the infestors so the vikings could kill the broodlords without getting fungaled!




Siege tanks aren't that great even with good positioning and the best target fire because they stand to bombard your own army if broodlings land. Not to mention their supply/resources and linear production greatly lowers their efficiency against infestors.

Ghosts used to do that, but both Infestors and Broodlords counter them pretty hard these days.


i've been noticing lately, and Polt did this in game 1, its better to keep your siege tanks unsieged so there is no splash damage on your own units. their dps is high in tank mode and they are decent against the broodlings while your thors shot the broodlords.
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synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
March 24 2012 07:58 GMT
#6765
wow ret got demolished today. sad too cuz he had the easiest group
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
March 24 2012 08:08 GMT
#6766
damn now I hope Stephano has a long hog/.... he wont win it at all but im hoping he goes on a good run from losers bracket as I want to see him at next MLG and it may put him off going through the long slog again
Live and Let Die!
JackDT
Profile Joined January 2012
724 Posts
March 24 2012 08:13 GMT
#6767
Absolutely rooting for Stephano to go on a crazy streak and end up Championship Bracket on Sunday. Le Fatigue though, it's tough.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
March 24 2012 08:18 GMT
#6768
POLT FIGHTING!

Already it's a classic matchup, Polt vs Stephano

Polt won in Asus Rog Open
Stephano won in Lone Star Clash
and now Polt won!!!

xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
March 24 2012 08:20 GMT
#6769
On March 24 2012 16:10 supsun wrote:
If naniwa were to cannon rush Ret people would bash him immediately but since it's HuK, people call it a smart play.


no... most posts talked about it negatively.

I for one am getting pretty tired of watching him cheese every single game and drawing the easiest groups in tournaments.

Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
March 24 2012 08:20 GMT
#6770
I'm trying to watch yesterday's sc2 vods on http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/live but the image quality is stuck to low and I can't seem to change it (tested it both through chrome and IE). It was fine during the live yesterday (medium quality was great and I guess I can't go much higher with a 350k/s connection) but the rebroadcast is stuck to low and really hurts the eye so it's almost unwatchable. When I click on "low" (bottom right corner of the player), the pop up supposed to let me choose image quality appears but as soon as I move my mouse to change it, the menu disappears..... so I can never click on medium. Is this a common issue ? Is it because VODs are only available in low quality for non paying customers ? Is it because of my pc/connection ? If not, is there a keyboard shortcut to change image quality ?
Thanks for any help you might bring....
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 08:29:51
March 24 2012 08:29 GMT
#6771
On March 24 2012 15:06 Packawana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 14:41 Chunhyang wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:31 Bagi wrote:
On March 24 2012 14:24 trinxified wrote:
If Stephano really thinks he's a good player and can compete, why doesn't he challenge himself and also shut up the doubters by going to Korea?

He likes talking about not needing Korean experience/practice, yet he doesn't want to show the world he can compete with the true best.

He has talked about going to Korea for another visit.

Still, I can understand perfectly why there are foreigners that don't want to live in Korea. There is more to life than proving that you can "compete with the true best" to some random nerds on a message board.


Stephano doesn't like pressure.

1. If he fails at any tourney at sc2, he can always say "meh, I wasn't really that serious anyway". It's a ready made excuse.

2. If he doesn't go to Korea for a long time in the first place, he can't really fail there. People will sing his praises and say "if he had gone he would own I know it".

I love his play, I love the man, I am so so disappointed at his decision. He's so ready, he's so skilled, why doesn't he go His results thus are clouded with uncertainty by fans and haters alike


Because the kid is smart and knows his future is going to be secure with a good education and job as a physician. I mean, I would love to see him continue to hone his craft and learn to dominate elsewhere too, but he knows what's best for his life (and honestly, it is the better decision)


This is why I will always respect and like Naniwa more than Stephano, even though I think Stephano is better. Naniwa is passionate about the game and wanting to be the best. There are a few foreigners that seem to really want to be the best: Naniwa, Jinro, Morrow, im sure I am missing a bunch but their mindset compared to someone like Stephano or Idra who obviously doesn't enjoy the game is like black and white.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 24 2012 08:29 GMT
#6772
On March 24 2012 16:40 JackDT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 16:35 mooseman1710 wrote:
are there any VODs up?


Just load up any particular stream and there's a timeline, you can jump to any time you want from the entire broadcast.


Does anybody know where I can find Polt vs Stephano?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
March 24 2012 08:35 GMT
#6773
How the huck did NaNiwa manage to lose against Haypro?
T.T
WriterMaru
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
March 24 2012 08:48 GMT
#6774
On March 24 2012 17:35 Poopi wrote:
How the huck did NaNiwa manage to lose against Haypro?
T.T


ZvP? I dunno. Haypro beat Demuslim too you know.
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
March 24 2012 08:49 GMT
#6775
I kinda miss the generic rock music.. The techno itself isn't that bad.. but god, the really blatant distortions are annoying, especially in one of the songs.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
March 24 2012 08:50 GMT
#6776
On March 24 2012 17:20 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 16:10 supsun wrote:
If naniwa were to cannon rush Ret people would bash him immediately but since it's HuK, people call it a smart play.


no... most posts talked about it negatively.

I for one am getting pretty tired of watching him cheese every single game and drawing the easiest groups in tournaments.


1st: a win is a win is a win
2nd: Protoss do 2 base timings or early cannon/zealot or they lose if they dont do damage somehow
3rd: how the hell are you shitting on Ret(Who has been dominating lately ESPECIALLY against protoss players(beating naniwa and others to win the red bull)), violet who always ends up near the top and is a good Korean who just has no interest in GSL, and Socke who is one of the top foreign protoss. Would you rather have him in group D so he can own the others in PvP and then you can complain that he only wins PvP and ez brackets etc?

Huk cleaned his group up so far. Stop being bitter.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
March 24 2012 08:56 GMT
#6777
its good to see Huk in good shape for sure
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#6778
On March 24 2012 15:38 Hall0wed wrote:
Man DRG seemed out of it today before his match against Demuslim. He spent most of the 40 minutes of delay just sleeping (atleast I assume he was asleep, he didn't move at all) at his keyboard and just overall seemed kinda down. Obviously he pulled through and won his games but I could tell he was suffering.

Hope he feels better for tomorrow! (Well, technically today...)


"@MVPDongRaeGu
I dont want to get jet-lag so I woke up 16 hours during my flight but it doesn work ... Good job jet-lag"

He was probably falling asleep... :p

d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
March 24 2012 09:08 GMT
#6779
Why did Stephano have to get such a hard open bracket? I'm not sure he has the stamina to go all the way through the losers. He should have gotten a pool spot gods damnit. We all know it. I REALLY wanted to see him pitted against Nani. Now it looks like there wont be a chance but there is always hope.
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
March 24 2012 09:10 GMT
#6780
On March 24 2012 17:35 Poopi wrote:
How the huck did NaNiwa manage to lose against Haypro?
T.T


Haypro is good? Has everyone forgotten how good he was in the last championship?
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