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WigglingSquid
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
On March 16 2012 11:55 Shardz wrote: Wow I can't believe Oz lost a set of PvP, how did the games look like? HerO beat him 2-1 at MLG too... I don't know why people thought Oz was favored in the first place. | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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Porcelina
United Kingdom3249 Posts
On March 16 2012 12:27 Yamulo wrote: HerO beat him 2-1 at MLG too... I don't know why people thought Oz was favored in the first place. Probably because FXO in the GSTL has on several occasions used Oz as a vP sniper. And the fact that many people who should know quite a lot about the issue rate Oz as the best PvP in the world. Not to mention that he just beat HerO in the ace match of the IPL TAC semis. I would still favor Oz over HerO on average head to head. Just makes it sweeter to see HerO triumph of course. | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On March 16 2012 12:27 Yamulo wrote: HerO beat him 2-1 at MLG too... I don't know why people thought Oz was favored in the first place. If you go by winrates, Oz has the best PvP in the world (79%). He's beaten Inca if that gives you a good idea and he has always been considered a PvP sniper. Taking aside PvP wierdness/randomness, I would consider Oz to be the better player than Hero if only because of constistency. But Hero's kicking ass right now. Seriously. Gonna be interesting come code S time. How did TLO beat Gumiho though? Edit: Lol ^ Identical comments almost. | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On March 16 2012 12:25 McFeser wrote: I don't .. . . believe this. Those were really good players that Liquid defeated. Implying that Liquid's players aren't good? Have you been watching the other team Leagues etc? Liquid barely got knocked out of IPL (Oz DT rushed Hero) and could very well have made it to the finals there, too. Barely losing to Prime in the ace match, and barely losing to FXO in an ace match. They were knocked out of IPL with a record of 23W - 15L. This isn't exactly news IMO. If you're talking strictly based on Code S, FXO had 3 players, Liquid has 2 in Code S. Not that big of a difference. | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On March 16 2012 12:33 SCST wrote: Implying that Liquid's players aren't good? Have you been watching the other team Leagues etc? Liquid barely got knocked out of IPL (Oz DT rushed Hero) and could very well have made it to the finals there, too. Barely losing to Prime in the ace match, and barely losing to FXO in an ace match. This isn't exactly news IMO. If you're talking strictly based on Code S, FXO had 3 players, Liquid has 2 in Code S. Not that big of a difference. I'm still really surprised . I know Liquid is good but I'm not used to them owning face yet, especially against one of the best Korean teams, fielding some of their best players who (with the exception of Lucky) are playing their best matchups. The only win I expected for Liquid was Zenio v Leenock - other than that I couldn't see TLO beating Gumi or Hero beating Oz - so . . .. I'm sorry for doubting you liquid!Edit: So Liquid is either facing Empire or Mouz. Liquid defeated both teams 3-2 but that was before Liquid had two Code S players. Plus, both Empire and Mouz don't seem as strong as they were a month ago, so I think Liquid is going to be heavily favored in the finals. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Won't be able to see the rebroadcast either since I need to sleep early because I'm climbing a mountain tomorrow :D glgl TL hope you win it all!!! | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On March 16 2012 12:44 lichter wrote: hoooooly shit so sad I missed this T_T Won't be able to see the rebroadcast either since I need to sleep early because I'm climbing a mountain tomorrow :D glgl TL hope you win it all!!! Have fun with that mountain! Which mountain are you planning to climb? | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On March 16 2012 12:41 McFeser wrote: I'm still really surprised . I know Liquid is good but I'm not used to them owning face yet, especially against one of the best Korean teams, fielding some of their best players who (with the exception of Lucky) are playing their best matchups. The only win I expected for Liquid was Zenio v Leenock - other than that I couldn't see TLO beating Gumi or Hero beating Oz - so . . .. I'm sorry for doubting you liquid!It's understandable considering TLO has really become a completely different player since he changed back to Zerg (again) and some people don't follow him that closely. Let's just say that if TLO was unpredictable as Terran, he seems even more unpredictable as Zerg now. Combine that with a very safe 4 queen early game style and he's beaten players like MKP, Creator, Polt and now Gumiho, and more. Add 2 Code S Koreans into the mix, plus Sheth and Ret (who are at least Code A worthy right now), it's a very deep roster. Even though Jinro, Haypro and Nony aren't playing at their best, TL still has very good players to fall back on until the former three get back into full form. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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Ghoststrikes
Canada1356 Posts
Good job boys! Bring this one home! | ||
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aLite
Canada36 Posts
Great start to the year for Liquid and in general, nice to see that TLO and HayprO are beginning to show results again! Liquid fighting! | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
. Having a very strong 2012 opening so far :D | ||
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silverstyle
Singapore1108 Posts
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
On March 16 2012 11:52 00Visor wrote: Nobody claims lag. Worse player win vs better players all the time. Its just stupid to say someone is better because he wins a Bo3 over someone else. (he was better on that day yes) If you compare the record of 2 players where one is better, its about 60-40 or 70-30, so on a good day or with some luck the worse can win a Bo3. Nobody claims lag? You haven't been reading this thread: On March 16 2012 11:20 FrOsTyy wrote: It is so sad to watch Liquid even stand a chance vs these Code A and S players because of latency. We need iccup back so bad. Plus, I wasn't referring just to lag, I explicitly referred to excuses like lag [see the plenty of other posts about timezone]. On March 16 2012 11:52 00Visor wrote:Its just stupid to say someone is better because he wins a Bo3 over someone else. (he was better on that day yes) If you compare the record of 2 players where one is better, its about 60-40 or 70-30, so on a good day or with some luck the worse can win a Bo3. I think you're just misreading posts, because that's exactly what the person you're responding to said (that TLO played better that day). Still, TLO didn't have a prior record vs Gumiho, and even if he did, you're never going to have enough head-to-head games to supply a sufficient sample size to actually judge players' relative parity. TLO's recent successes are definite signs that he's getting pretty good, so it's stupid of people to say "TLO's the worse player" off the bat. Unproven? Sure, but there are so many factors regarding "good or bad" such as physical health, proficiency in other matchups, etc. that make statements like that so silly. | ||
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
didnt see that one coming, FXO must be shocked themselves, lmao | ||
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