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HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
March 02 2012 02:20 GMT
#101
On March 02 2012 11:16 Badfatpanda wrote:
Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push.

it was 2-0 for thors
No carpal tunnel no skill
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
March 02 2012 02:20 GMT
#102
Yeah i really would have liked to see mass ghost still, just to see if it does anything. I heard some snipes.. but nothing died? :D
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 02 2012 02:20 GMT
#103
On March 02 2012 11:12 Noocta wrote:
Yeah.. i'm sorry but since ghost nerf, you just can't beat the kind of army Seal have here. :/


Pffft. TvZ lategame is barely explored. Terran used to be able to mass Ghosts and snipe the shit out of all Zerg T3, now maybe they'll have to incorporate Ravens more intelligently or something. Give it time.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 02 2012 02:20 GMT
#104
Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
RUS RO DAH!!!
Profile Joined February 2012
United States277 Posts
March 02 2012 02:21 GMT
#105
Well Brood/infestor/corruptor is pretty unstoppable. It's terran's fault for bringing it to late game, should have know he'd have no chance.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 02:24:02
March 02 2012 02:22 GMT
#106
On March 02 2012 11:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
How is seal's zvz? I cant recall any examples in gstl and I've never watched his stream.

I have never seen him being used purpousefully against zerg opponents. From what I recall from his match vs BboongBboong, his ZvZ is quite "meh": not heinous but not necessarily good.

On March 02 2012 11:20 Jarree wrote:
Yeah i really would have liked to see mass ghost still, just to see if it does anything. I heard some snipes.. but nothing died? :D

He used a handful on corruptors. I would have liked him to try sniping infestors; there were not that many at a point, and now snipe is extremely good against infestors (2 down from 3).
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 02 2012 02:23 GMT
#107
On March 02 2012 11:19 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 11:16 Badfatpanda wrote:
On March 02 2012 11:12 Noocta wrote:
Yeah.. i'm sorry but since ghost nerf, you just can't beat the kind of army Seal have here. :/


That's what ThorZaIN and DeMusliM thought at MLG...oh wait.

Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push.


They hit'ed way before the BL corruptor army get to this point tho.
The only game i saw where a terran beat a legit BLs corruptor army is still Polt vs Stephano on Antigua but.. comon.. almost noone can pull that off :S

I guess there's something to explore with geting ravens with the vikings ( like when you throw down 3 more starport, put techlab on 2 of them ) and use PPD and after that HSM.
That's a lot of theory tho..


But the reason I brought up those games were because both players went mech and ROLLED a BL/Corrupter army in 30+ and 40+minute games, you just need to scout and adjust your composition to fit their tech. Foreigner Terrans play too passive in general whereas Polt was in Stephano's face from the 6minute mark in nearly all of his games.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-02 02:26:02
March 02 2012 02:23 GMT
#108
Naruto, who do you send to snipe violet? Go ahead and unleash Jjakji or put in someone like Sage?

nvm. not a factor it looks like
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HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
March 02 2012 02:23 GMT
#109
On March 02 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote:
Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills.

no faith in happy? :O
No carpal tunnel no skill
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 02 2012 02:24 GMT
#110
On March 02 2012 11:23 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote:
Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills.

no faith in happy? :O

Happy is really good but Kas' and Beasty's performances were still disappointing.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 02 2012 02:25 GMT
#111
On March 02 2012 11:21 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
Well Brood/infestor/corruptor is pretty unstoppable. It's terran's fault for bringing it to late game, should have know he'd have no chance.


Well actually thats not completely true, but as I explained first of all I don't know why Kas took such a defensive position when he was clearly ahead in upgrades and could have pushed the issue, making Seal spend gas on actually banelings and other stuff to defend instead of heavily teching... AND letting Zerg get such an army on Shakuras where you cannot bypass it NOR use the immobility of it against it was a big mistake.

I don't want to say it was weak by Kas as he's an excellent player, but for me as observer that was his mistake but you always have to understand that what he saw was completely different from what we could actually see. His defensive position would be very good against a brutal mass ling baneling muta style, as it becomes completely inefficient against a maxed Terran.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
March 02 2012 02:25 GMT
#112
seal is so good!
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 02 2012 02:25 GMT
#113
On March 02 2012 11:23 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote:
Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills.

no faith in happy? :O


It's very hard for any player to take mutiple consecutive wins off of a top Korean team, especially when you don't have map picks.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 02 2012 02:25 GMT
#114
On March 02 2012 11:20 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 11:16 Badfatpanda wrote:
Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push.

it was 2-0 for thors


Yeah, barely upgraded. You need armor to tank broodling damage or else they die that fast without doing damage, and +damage scales SOOO much with attack upgrades because of the javelin missle splash. It was really inefficient that he got 30 supply in thors without getting sufficient upgrades.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
March 02 2012 02:26 GMT
#115
Wow, Violet so good, holding that off so far
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 02 2012 02:26 GMT
#116
On March 02 2012 11:24 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2012 11:23 HQuality wrote:
On March 02 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote:
Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills.

no faith in happy? :O

Happy is really good but Kas' and Beasty's performances were still disappointing.


Especially since + Show Spoiler +
beasty just fucking ROLLED Oz in the NASTL
it would have been great to have him go on to face San/Tassadar
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 02 2012 02:27 GMT
#117
Did Seal 10 pool?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 02 2012 02:27 GMT
#118
On March 02 2012 11:23 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Naruto, who do you send to snipe violet? Go ahead and unleash Jjakji or put in someone like Sage?

nvm. not a factor it looks like


I would send Jjaki, yes.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 02 2012 02:29 GMT
#119
Wow, what an exciting ZvZ!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 02 2012 02:30 GMT
#120
Violet just needs to survive here, and Seal will be too far behind production-wise.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
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