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On February 22 2012 11:26 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 11:24 Whatson wrote:On February 22 2012 11:22 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:19 The KY wrote:
So...what did IdrA actually do? Was it just leave the game early? He left game when Sheth had 15 lings and IdrA had zero lings but IdrA could have easily pulled drones and/or blocked the ramp and had a spine crawler at his natural. 1 queen and drones can delay long enough for more lings to come out. Also i believe IdrA had a baneling and about 4-6 more workers than Sheth. So he would lose all his drones to the lings? He just finished a production cycle of drones too... The game was over. No it wasn't i've won games in ZvZ masters with 6-7 drones left against a player on 1 base with 15+ Drones you just out-micro them and you can win. Also IdrA had more drones than Sheth. IdrA could block the ramp with queens IdrA could use many of his drones to hold off Sheths 15 Lings before IdrA hatches more lings and i believe he still had a baneling. IdrA definitely was not in an unwinnable position. I've won ZvZ's with huge drone disadvantages before and know exactly how IdrA could have possibly won the game.
Idra's baneling detonated...
Also note that Idra HATES playing from behind, which is mainly why he decided to all-in in the first place once he scouted Sheth's hatch first.
Besides he actually GGed!
That is like the epitome of well-mannered from him.
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Was gonna say "inb4 Talin", but he already beat me to it. 
Time for TL/reddit to become a cesspool about IdrA again instead of Sheth's super-sayanism. GG TL, obviously you wanted this a lot more than EG did. Proud of Sheth for getting as far as he has on TL, too. At first, I didn't think much of him since he was only known for being "nice" like all of the koreans. But now I see how far he has come since he left FXO. Massive props to you, Shawn, and I hope this motivates you to keep playing as good as you did today.
EG... Well, always next time, I suppose. I will always bleed blue, but could you please not just make it so hard on your fans sometimes? Because this really hurts. T______T
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Well played to sheth for the all kill, very deserved.
Just a word on Idra; people need to stop claiming he ragequits all his games, he was mannered and typed "GG", this is as bad as when people claimed he over-droned when he cuts production. You don't need to make stuff up just so you can rage at a player you dislike.
Also people have very short memories in this community, you do well in live events a few months back and then all of a sudden you are never any good.
Get a grip guys and gals (and no I am not a fan boy)
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wow, congrats Sheth, all kill all awesome
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On February 22 2012 11:29 Alokiya wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 11:20 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:18 _Mittens wrote:
I am so glad that fucking scumbag idrA is continuing to prove my opinion of him right.  LOL hardest i laughed in a while seriously though i agree kind-of. I'm a fan of IdrA but he definitely left that game way too early. If that made you laugh you have a pretty awful sense of humor, and really, just because he didn't pull drones or drag out a game with a 99% chance he was gonna lose, doesn't mean he left way too early.
It wasn't a 99% chance he'd lose i play alot of ZvZ he still had quite a good chance he was just being IdrA
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On February 22 2012 11:26 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
W00H00 !!! XD <3
amazing performance!
you're the #1 na zerg at the moment, imo
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On February 22 2012 11:26 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
W00H00 !!! XD <3
Congratz!
I've a question about game three if you don't mind (shamelessly abusing your good manners) did something trigger your ling/bling/roach bust or you assumed Puma would go for a greedy third without tanks? We don't have your vision and that's something interesting to know.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On February 22 2012 11:26 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
W00H00 !!! XD <3
W00H00 !!! XD Congrats man!
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On February 22 2012 11:26 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
W00H00 !!! XD <3
congrats.
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On February 22 2012 11:29 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 11:26 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:24 Whatson wrote:On February 22 2012 11:22 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:19 The KY wrote:
So...what did IdrA actually do? Was it just leave the game early? He left game when Sheth had 15 lings and IdrA had zero lings but IdrA could have easily pulled drones and/or blocked the ramp and had a spine crawler at his natural. 1 queen and drones can delay long enough for more lings to come out. Also i believe IdrA had a baneling and about 4-6 more workers than Sheth. So he would lose all his drones to the lings? He just finished a production cycle of drones too... The game was over. No it wasn't i've won games in ZvZ masters with 6-7 drones left against a player on 1 base with 15+ Drones you just out-micro them and you can win. Also IdrA had more drones than Sheth. IdrA could block the ramp with queens IdrA could use many of his drones to hold off Sheths 15 Lings before IdrA hatches more lings and i believe he still had a baneling. IdrA definitely was not in an unwinnable position. I've won ZvZ's with huge drone disadvantages before and know exactly how IdrA could have possibly won the game. Idra's baneling detonated... Also note that Idra HATES playing from behind, which is mainly why he decided to all-in in the first place once he scouted Sheth's hatch first.
Just to note IdrA had more drones than Sheth at the time  . He wasn't actually behind by that much other than army supply.
You'd be surprised how easily you can defend against 15 ling to delay for reinforcements with just a queen or two and some drones.
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On February 22 2012 11:26 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
W00H00 !!! XD <3
Congratulations, man! Very impressive all-kill.
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Germany1780 Posts
Maybe EG needs more teamhouses?
They better do something, how can you lose so badly with this lineup is beyond me.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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On February 22 2012 11:32 tree.hugger wrote:![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/R1CH/Happy2.gif)
Woah, now. He ain't now JD just yet.
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On February 22 2012 11:30 LoB wrote:
Well played to sheth for the all kill, very deserved.
Just a word on Idra; people need to stop claiming he ragequits all his games, he was mannered and typed "GG", this is as bad as when people claimed he over-droned when he cuts production. You don't need to make stuff up just so you can rage at a player you dislike.
Also people have very short memories in this community, you do well in live events a few months back and then all of a sudden you are never any good.
Get a grip guys and gals (and no I am not a fan boy)
it's not that he's bm in how he leaves, it's that he has a (long) history of leaving games the moment he goes a little bit behind rather than trying to play for a comeback..
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Well atleast their DotA 2 team is doing pretty good.
O.o
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On February 22 2012 11:33 KvltMan wrote:Woah, now. He ain't now JD just yet.
He is just as loveable though.
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On February 22 2012 11:31 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 11:29 Whatson wrote:On February 22 2012 11:26 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:24 Whatson wrote:On February 22 2012 11:22 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:19 The KY wrote:
So...what did IdrA actually do? Was it just leave the game early? He left game when Sheth had 15 lings and IdrA had zero lings but IdrA could have easily pulled drones and/or blocked the ramp and had a spine crawler at his natural. 1 queen and drones can delay long enough for more lings to come out. Also i believe IdrA had a baneling and about 4-6 more workers than Sheth. So he would lose all his drones to the lings? He just finished a production cycle of drones too... The game was over. No it wasn't i've won games in ZvZ masters with 6-7 drones left against a player on 1 base with 15+ Drones you just out-micro them and you can win. Also IdrA had more drones than Sheth. IdrA could block the ramp with queens IdrA could use many of his drones to hold off Sheths 15 Lings before IdrA hatches more lings and i believe he still had a baneling. IdrA definitely was not in an unwinnable position. I've won ZvZ's with huge drone disadvantages before and know exactly how IdrA could have possibly won the game. Idra's baneling detonated... Also note that Idra HATES playing from behind, which is mainly why he decided to all-in in the first place once he scouted Sheth's hatch first. Just to note IdrA had more drones than Sheth at the time . He wasn't actually behind by that much other than army supply. You'd be surprised how easily you can defend against 15 ling to delay for reinforcements with just a queen or two and some drones.
He had no larva left, sheth would have killed most of his drones by the time he got enough zerglings out.
EDIT : Also people need to calm down on EG's results, they've done poorly in teamleagues and GSL but thats the GSL. The two big tournaments that EG were at they got 3rd and top 8. Obviously they want better but just wait until the tournaments start
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On February 22 2012 11:31 XRaDiiX wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 11:29 Whatson wrote:On February 22 2012 11:26 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:24 Whatson wrote:On February 22 2012 11:22 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:19 The KY wrote:
So...what did IdrA actually do? Was it just leave the game early? He left game when Sheth had 15 lings and IdrA had zero lings but IdrA could have easily pulled drones and/or blocked the ramp and had a spine crawler at his natural. 1 queen and drones can delay long enough for more lings to come out. Also i believe IdrA had a baneling and about 4-6 more workers than Sheth. So he would lose all his drones to the lings? He just finished a production cycle of drones too... The game was over. No it wasn't i've won games in ZvZ masters with 6-7 drones left against a player on 1 base with 15+ Drones you just out-micro them and you can win. Also IdrA had more drones than Sheth. IdrA could block the ramp with queens IdrA could use many of his drones to hold off Sheths 15 Lings before IdrA hatches more lings and i believe he still had a baneling. IdrA definitely was not in an unwinnable position. I've won ZvZ's with huge drone disadvantages before and know exactly how IdrA could have possibly won the game. Idra's baneling detonated... Also note that Idra HATES playing from behind, which is mainly why he decided to all-in in the first place once he scouted Sheth's hatch first. Just to note IdrA had more drones than Sheth at the time . He wasn't actually behind by that much other than army supply. You'd be surprised how easily you can defend against 15 ling to delay for reinforcements with just a queen or two and some drones.
That's the point though, he had just finished a round of drones. Even if he pulled all his drones and queens, he would still trade drones for lings, and most definitely lose mining time even if he didn't lose a single drone. In the meantime, Sheth can drone up again.
So at best, Idra is behind economically.
It's already a decided game anyways, so I don't think there's a legit reason why we're bringing all this up again.
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On February 22 2012 11:34 Robson13 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 11:31 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:29 Whatson wrote:On February 22 2012 11:26 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:24 Whatson wrote:On February 22 2012 11:22 XRaDiiX wrote:On February 22 2012 11:19 The KY wrote:
So...what did IdrA actually do? Was it just leave the game early? He left game when Sheth had 15 lings and IdrA had zero lings but IdrA could have easily pulled drones and/or blocked the ramp and had a spine crawler at his natural. 1 queen and drones can delay long enough for more lings to come out. Also i believe IdrA had a baneling and about 4-6 more workers than Sheth. So he would lose all his drones to the lings? He just finished a production cycle of drones too... The game was over. No it wasn't i've won games in ZvZ masters with 6-7 drones left against a player on 1 base with 15+ Drones you just out-micro them and you can win. Also IdrA had more drones than Sheth. IdrA could block the ramp with queens IdrA could use many of his drones to hold off Sheths 15 Lings before IdrA hatches more lings and i believe he still had a baneling. IdrA definitely was not in an unwinnable position. I've won ZvZ's with huge drone disadvantages before and know exactly how IdrA could have possibly won the game. Idra's baneling detonated... Also note that Idra HATES playing from behind, which is mainly why he decided to all-in in the first place once he scouted Sheth's hatch first. Just to note IdrA had more drones than Sheth at the time . He wasn't actually behind by that much other than army supply. You'd be surprised how easily you can defend against 15 ling to delay for reinforcements with just a queen or two and some drones. He had no larva left, sheth would have killed most of his drones by the time he got enough zerglings out
The last time i checked 15 lings doesnt kill 34 drones and a spine crawler and 2 queens.
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