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GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
February 19 2012 03:53 GMT
#121
On February 19 2012 12:44 RaiKageRyu wrote:
It's kind of amusing watching Hero in both NASTL and IPL at the same time.

I had the same thought. :-)
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 19 2012 03:54 GMT
#122
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<
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lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
February 19 2012 03:55 GMT
#123
GG korea > europe :p
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
February 19 2012 03:55 GMT
#124
On February 19 2012 12:53 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 12:45 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:45 HQuality wrote:
...
too bad empire didn't sent kas as always

You mean the guy HerO already beat?

Hero's PvT is weaker than his PvZ by far.


Yep.. His lategame PvZ is so beast.. Empire just felt like they had to throw in their best allround player I guess
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procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
February 19 2012 03:56 GMT
#125
Wow, what the hell happened that last game? The last thing I saw was Violet moving in on HerO's nat with huge army and HerO defending with blink stalkers. How did that turn into a win for HerO? I was sure Violet was going to take that game.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 19 2012 03:56 GMT
#126
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL



Are you kidding dude? It was 3-2 and Aristeo/Kas could have easily won their games if they'd made better decisions.
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xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
February 19 2012 03:59 GMT
#127
On February 19 2012 12:55 ELA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 12:53 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:45 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:45 HQuality wrote:
...
too bad empire didn't sent kas as always

You mean the guy HerO already beat?

Hero's PvT is weaker than his PvZ by far.


Yep.. His lategame PvZ is so beast.. Empire just felt like they had to throw in their best allround player I guess

lol more like "let's send a Korean out" haha. jks
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
February 19 2012 03:59 GMT
#128
On February 19 2012 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<


it was pretty close, could have gone either way

plus it was a korean versus korean for ace match

you live and you learn
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 19 2012 04:00 GMT
#129
On February 19 2012 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<


What does that have to do with anything when it was viOlet losing to HerO in an ace match?

Going 2-2 in close games against TL is no shame and beastyqt didn't even play.

Yes, TL was better in the end, but I didn't see anything indicating that you're right today.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 19 2012 04:06 GMT
#130
On February 19 2012 13:00 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<


What does that have to do with anything when it was viOlet losing to HerO in an ace match?

Going 2-2 in close games against TL is no shame and beastyqt didn't even play.

Yes, TL was better in the end, but I didn't see anything indicating that you're right today.


Meaning I don't see why so many people would expect for Empire to take down both Zenio and Hero so easily. I am moreso referring to all the posts claiming Empire 3-0, as that is just pure ignorance. Some of the players on Empire are definitely good enough to take down Hero and Zenio in a BO1 but people like the one guy claiming that Hero hasn't proven that he could take down Kas in a BO3 is just beyond ridiculous.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
February 19 2012 04:08 GMT
#131
On February 19 2012 13:06 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 13:00 StarVe wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<


What does that have to do with anything when it was viOlet losing to HerO in an ace match?

Going 2-2 in close games against TL is no shame and beastyqt didn't even play.

Yes, TL was better in the end, but I didn't see anything indicating that you're right today.


Meaning I don't see why so many people would expect for Empire to take down both Zenio and Hero so easily. I am moreso referring to all the posts claiming Empire 3-0, as that is just pure ignorance. Some of the players on Empire are definitely good enough to take down Hero and Zenio in a BO1 but people like the one guy claiming that Hero hasn't proven that he could take down Kas in a BO3 is just beyond ridiculous.

I think you're talking about me.

I wasn't very clear on what I was trying to say before; hero can definitely beat Kas(might even be a favorite), but I think Kas is more than capable of beating hero as well.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 04:12:29
February 19 2012 04:12 GMT
#132
On February 19 2012 13:06 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 13:00 StarVe wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<


What does that have to do with anything when it was viOlet losing to HerO in an ace match?

Going 2-2 in close games against TL is no shame and beastyqt didn't even play.

Yes, TL was better in the end, but I didn't see anything indicating that you're right today.


Meaning I don't see why so many people would expect for Empire to take down both Zenio and Hero so easily. I am moreso referring to all the posts claiming Empire 3-0, as that is just pure ignorance. Some of the players on Empire are definitely good enough to take down Hero and Zenio in a BO1 but people like the one guy claiming that Hero hasn't proven that he could take down Kas in a BO3 is just beyond ridiculous.


Nah, it's not pure ignorance at all, there was a possibility, and it's not even that small that Kas would beat HerO. Look at the other results and it's a quick 3-0 for Empire. As I said in my post before the game:
It's really close though, realistically, anything could happen, from a 3-0 for Empire to a 3-0 for Liquid.

Predicting a 3-0 for Empire is a valid opinion and it could easily have happened.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-19 04:14:41
February 19 2012 04:14 GMT
#133
On February 19 2012 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<

Nah, Empire is dope. Nobody should ever undersell Empire, I think they're a fantastic team and I enjoyed making fun of Happy with them at Dreamhack a ton. Same with RoX.KIS last week, btw. Both are great squads with a good future ahead, imo.
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Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
February 19 2012 04:18 GMT
#134
On February 19 2012 12:53 GeorgeForeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 12:44 RaiKageRyu wrote:
It's kind of amusing watching Hero in both NASTL and IPL at the same time.

I had the same thought. :-)


It gets confusing at times though LOL
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 19 2012 04:24 GMT
#135
On February 19 2012 13:14 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<

Nah, Empire is dope. Nobody should ever undersell Empire, I think they're a fantastic team and I enjoyed making fun of Happy with them at Dreamhack a ton. Same with RoX.KIS last week, btw. Both are great squads with a good future ahead, imo.


Yeah I agree I like Empire but you didn't read my other post. It seems like Liquid was the one being sold short here, atleast by the people that initially voted/posted.

But I still think way too many foreign fans overhype foreign players. Like the poll for the IPL BO9 between Hero and Thorzain should not be that close I think, and at one point before the match Thorzain was actually leading in the poll. It is just kind of silly at this point I think.
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
February 19 2012 05:15 GMT
#136
On February 19 2012 12:44 RaiKageRyu wrote:
It's kind of amusing watching Hero in both NASTL and IPL at the same time.

I was bummed out they were at the same time lol. I missed both of HerO's matches in this series. Only got time to watch three matches with Sheth, Jinro, and Zenio.
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
February 19 2012 05:16 GMT
#137
Dem HerO and Zenio arse kicking
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 19 2012 06:27 GMT
#138
Damn, great day for Hero, 3 kills here and win in fight club
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Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
February 19 2012 07:02 GMT
#139
I don't like the bo1 format of a 1v1 team league.
all kill style ok, but not for this kind
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
February 19 2012 07:26 GMT
#140
On February 19 2012 13:24 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2012 13:14 tree.hugger wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:54 Hall0wed wrote:
On February 19 2012 12:49 naux wrote:
cant believe people thought empire was gonna win LOL


Common problem with foreign fans thinking foreign players are much better than they actually are. >_<

Nah, Empire is dope. Nobody should ever undersell Empire, I think they're a fantastic team and I enjoyed making fun of Happy with them at Dreamhack a ton. Same with RoX.KIS last week, btw. Both are great squads with a good future ahead, imo.


Yeah I agree I like Empire but you didn't read my other post. It seems like Liquid was the one being sold short here, atleast by the people that initially voted/posted.

But I still think way too many foreign fans overhype foreign players. Like the poll for the IPL BO9 between Hero and Thorzain should not be that close I think, and at one point before the match Thorzain was actually leading in the poll. It is just kind of silly at this point I think.

Nagging about it in every topic won't change anything.
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