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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
March 18 2012 01:41 GMT
#4141
White-Ra had no units. When you take a third you need to make a lot of units. That was way too greedy by White-Ra.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 18 2012 01:41 GMT
#4142
On March 18 2012 10:40 mememolly wrote:
whitera didn't forcefield ramp at nat

Aye, that was huuuuge. I mean had he ffed, those roaches would've had to run all the way to the 3rd and it would've been *maybe* a chance
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 18 2012 01:42 GMT
#4143
Lies, None is better at 2base all in PvZ than Naniwa !
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 01:44:09
March 18 2012 01:42 GMT
#4144
On March 18 2012 10:27 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 10:22 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:20 Tobberoth wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:14 Tobberoth wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:08 Fionn wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:07 Tobberoth wrote:
On March 18 2012 10:07 Bagi wrote:
FUCK YEAH POLT

So well deserved!

How is it well deserved when he was owned first game and got a free win second game because Violet had a brain fart?

It was obvious Violet was very tilted last game.


Owned first game?

He got countered baneling busted.

So if you lose to a counter baneling bust, you aren't getting owned, you're instead deserving a win? Polt was denying all creepspread and had full map control, the fact that Violet got that counter baneling bust off says a lot more about Polts play than it does Violets, and once that bust was completed, Violet was completely in control and looked unstoppable.

I saw nothing in those games indicating Polt deserved the win more, other than Violet making a really surprising mistake and getting tilted hardcore. With all the games where Polt actually does 100% derserve the win, I'd say this is a pretty bad series to bring it up.


Sorry, no one is entitled to anything in competition. Violet had a good army in Game 2 but couldn't manuever it correctly, and he choked in the clutch. Then Game 3 comes up and he chokes again with an ill-advised baneling bust. He didn't deserve to win the series with such terrible mistakes. Funny how you only hear this stuff from people who don't compete in anything.

Nor did I say Violet deserved the win, I'm saying it's dumb to say it was "well deserved" for Polt when he won because of Violet making massive mistakes. It's like saying it's a well deserved win if a bronze league player wins against Stephano because Stephano is disconnected from the game.


Being disconnected from the game is a factor that is out of Stephano's control. Moving your broodlords around competently and not cracking under pressure is a factor Violet can perfectly control. Polt is better than Violet. Fail analogy is fail.

You can't seriously be making the case that violet lost because of his broodlord control? It was literally up to forgetting to build extractors. That's literally all it took, he would have won easily if he just put those extractors down.

Polt being a better player than Violet doesn't mean his win in this series was well deserved.


Well, let's see. Violet moves out with his entire army and plows through all of Polt's bases and production, while Polt decides to counterattack and kill all of Violet's bases and production. Since Violet's army is on the other side of the map, he cannot do anything about it (plus being supply-blocked). He has his entire army spread out across one side of the map and does not focus on killing the bases + SCVs, allowing Polt to constantly build more stuff whenever he fails to hold a position. Even if he builds extractors he would still have a slow army that relies on synergy to be effective, so he cannot split his army to deal with the small groups of marines.

A basketball player can have good handles, a quick first step, great court vision,and great body control. But if he can't finish at the basket then he is not going to score, no matter how athletic and intelligent he is. It doesn't matter if he can blow past the hedge or post up effectively on his defender, whether the guy guarding him can't move well to his left or defensively finish. The guy who deserves the win is the one who can perform in the clutch, and Polt well-deserves it.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Benjamin80
Profile Joined February 2012
581 Posts
March 18 2012 01:42 GMT
#4145
On March 18 2012 10:42 Noocta wrote:
Lies, None is better at 2base all in PvZ than Naniwa !


Lies MC:D
[QUOTE][B]On March 19 2012 02:32 iNcontroL wrote:[/B] IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS YOU CANNON RUSH[/QUOTE]
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2012 01:43 GMT
#4146
On March 18 2012 10:42 Noocta wrote:
Lies, None is better at 2base all in PvZ than Naniwa !

MC is the pioneer though. And maybe better than Naniwa, as I feel that Naniwa learned it from MC.
I had a good night of sleep.
anoobis
Profile Joined May 2010
United States46 Posts
March 18 2012 01:43 GMT
#4147
On March 18 2012 10:13 Nothingtosay wrote:
Hah! If he didn't say Texan girls he might have been leaving with a limp.

Now he'll be leaving them with a limp.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 18 2012 01:44 GMT
#4148
On March 18 2012 10:42 Benjamin80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 10:42 Noocta wrote:
Lies, None is better at 2base all in PvZ than Naniwa !


Lies MC:D


Oh well..
MC is out of competition in this.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
March 18 2012 01:44 GMT
#4149
I hope for a good and entertaining game two! I want a Stephano vs Polt rematch though!
DeekZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia235 Posts
March 18 2012 01:44 GMT
#4150
Why is this other guy casting with Rotterdam instead of MrBitter? Is he sponsored by Tt or something?
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
March 18 2012 01:45 GMT
#4151
white ra all smiles while playing lol
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2012 01:47 GMT
#4152
White Ra is no Grubby
I had a good night of sleep.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 18 2012 01:48 GMT
#4153
I'm not Zerg and even I want to baneling bust this wall.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2012 01:48 GMT
#4154
I want a MotherShip White Ra.
I had a good night of sleep.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 18 2012 01:50 GMT
#4155
Whitera's answer to stephano seems to be to play extremely greedy and pray stephano lets him get away with it.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
March 18 2012 01:50 GMT
#4156
Thats the build White-ra used a few days ago to beat Stephano in practice
I've got moves like Jagger
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
March 18 2012 01:51 GMT
#4157
Stephano let White-Ra's third go up.. He's in trouble
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2012 01:51 GMT
#4158
Hydra? Really?
Stephano. How are you maphacking?
I had a good night of sleep.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
March 18 2012 01:51 GMT
#4159
Stephano with maphack ;P
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 18 2012 01:53 GMT
#4160
White ra just lost 10 sentries
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