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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 13 2012 09:49 GMT
#161
On February 13 2012 18:48 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:44 Conquest101 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Last few months have actually been pretty even.

March -> October is lol.


I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


I think it was in May that MC won?


He's talking about when Puzzle won Code A. The last time protoss won Code S was GSL March.

I'm slightly ashamed I am participating in this off topic balance whine discussion.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 09:50:55
February 13 2012 09:49 GMT
#162
On February 13 2012 18:48 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:44 Conquest101 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Last few months have actually been pretty even.

March -> October is lol.


I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


I think it was in May that MC won?


March 19th.


On February 13 2012 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 18:48 eYeball wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:44 Conquest101 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Last few months have actually been pretty even.

March -> October is lol.


I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


I think it was in May that MC won?


He's talking about when Puzzle won Code A. The last time protoss won Code S was GSL March.

I'm slightly ashamed I am participating in this off topic balance whine discussion.


I don't really consider myself balance whining. But I would like a SOMEWHAT even distribution of GSL wins between races. At least more than 1 champion of a certain race for an entire year, that's all.
Hey! How you doin'?
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 13 2012 09:51 GMT
#163
On February 13 2012 18:48 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:44 Conquest101 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Last few months have actually been pretty even.

March -> October is lol.


I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


I think it was in May that MC won?


March. Nestea owned Inca in May.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 13 2012 09:52 GMT
#164
On February 13 2012 18:49 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 18:48 eYeball wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:44 Conquest101 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Last few months have actually been pretty even.

March -> October is lol.


I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


I think it was in May that MC won?


March 19th.


Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:48 eYeball wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:44 Conquest101 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Last few months have actually been pretty even.

March -> October is lol.


I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


I think it was in May that MC won?


He's talking about when Puzzle won Code A. The last time protoss won Code S was GSL March.

I'm slightly ashamed I am participating in this off topic balance whine discussion.


I don't really consider myself balance whining. But I would like a SOMEWHAT even distribution of GSL wins between races. At least more than 1 champion of a certain race for an entire year, that's all.


While that would be nice, there's only going to be 5 Code S tournament this year so that's impossible =p
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 09:53:17
February 13 2012 09:52 GMT
#165
two base all in. same one that nestea did vs MVP on entombed valley in Ro32
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 13 2012 09:53 GMT
#166
I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


Actually, I think it was March with MC... But I think just looking at winners can be misleading because 1 or 2 dominate players can skew results. I think looking at Top 4 or 8 is probably slightly better. For the 2nd half of 2011, it was obvious Terran dominance. I think it had a lot to do with the 1-1-1 and early ghosts. With both of these not as effectively now, it shows there might be some issues with late game TvP. Maybe terrans need to innovate or maybe some changes are needed. Also realize the map pool and the gold mine nerf also made terrans weaker. There are more maps which are easier to hold 3 bases.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 13 2012 09:54 GMT
#167
What a scrappy attack, not sure who is ahead at this point.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 09:56:51
February 13 2012 09:55 GMT
#168
On February 13 2012 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 18:49 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:48 eYeball wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:44 Conquest101 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Last few months have actually been pretty even.

March -> October is lol.


I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


I think it was in May that MC won?


March 19th.


On February 13 2012 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:48 eYeball wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:46 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 13 2012 18:44 Conquest101 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/hQHYS

Last few months have actually been pretty even.

March -> October is lol.


I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


I think it was in May that MC won?


He's talking about when Puzzle won Code A. The last time protoss won Code S was GSL March.

I'm slightly ashamed I am participating in this off topic balance whine discussion.


I don't really consider myself balance whining. But I would like a SOMEWHAT even distribution of GSL wins between races. At least more than 1 champion of a certain race for an entire year, that's all.


While that would be nice, there's only going to be 5 Code S tournament this year so that's impossible =p


Well I'd be fine with 1 champ if it's 1/5, which is slightly better than 1/7.

On February 13 2012 18:53 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
I agree it's been pretty even, but not in winning the GSL. It's like BW all over again. Winrates are fine and all, but last time a Protoss won a GSL tourney (highest level of play, no?) was in June.


Actually, I think it was March with MC... But I think just looking at winners can be misleading because 1 or 2 dominate players can skew results. I think looking at Top 4 or 8 is probably slightly better. For the 2nd half of 2011, it was obvious Terran dominance. I think it had a lot to do with the 1-1-1 and early ghosts. With both of these not as effectively now, it shows there might be some issues with late game TvP. Maybe terrans need to innovate or maybe some changes are needed. Also realize the map pool and the gold mine nerf also made terrans weaker. There are more maps which are easier to hold 3 bases.


I'm talking about Puzzle winning code A, and really I only argued that because if I said march some raving Terran would point out that Puzzle won code A in June.
Hey! How you doin'?
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
February 13 2012 09:57 GMT
#169
I am pretty sure I saw MVP using that thor cuteness before.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
February 13 2012 10:00 GMT
#170
I think that counter was worth it. There was no way DRG's army could've beat the Terran's and that counter bought him enough time to get Infestors and Ultras out.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 13 2012 10:01 GMT
#171
That EMP was SICK
DaPyro
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Serbia131 Posts
February 13 2012 10:01 GMT
#172
wow that engagement made me sad
Drone so hard motherfuckers wanna fine me. Whats 50k minerals to a nigga like me? can you please remind me
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 13 2012 10:02 GMT
#173
Jjakji is playing a very passive game. No drops at all.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 13 2012 10:02 GMT
#174
On February 13 2012 19:02 WigglingSquid wrote:
Jjakji is playing a very passive game. No drops at all.

Theres no need to on antiga when the zerg goes mutas. Its pretty hard to drop vs a zerg who plays mutas correctly
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 13 2012 10:03 GMT
#175
I continue my dislike of Ultralisks. I feel like more zergs should use them like how protoss uses collossi, once they tech to something to counter them (mauraders) switch to BLs or back to mutas or something.
Hey! How you doin'?
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
February 13 2012 10:04 GMT
#176
Why does DRG keep A-moving his army into a fortified terran position backed by a PF?
DaPyro
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Serbia131 Posts
February 13 2012 10:04 GMT
#177
On February 13 2012 19:03 Zdrastochye wrote:
I continue my dislike of Ultralisks. I feel like more zergs should use them like how protoss uses collossi, once they tech to something to counter them (mauraders) switch to BLs or back to mutas or something.

that is the stupidest analogy ive ever heard.
Drone so hard motherfuckers wanna fine me. Whats 50k minerals to a nigga like me? can you please remind me
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 13 2012 10:05 GMT
#178
On February 13 2012 19:04 DaPyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 19:03 Zdrastochye wrote:
I continue my dislike of Ultralisks. I feel like more zergs should use them like how protoss uses collossi, once they tech to something to counter them (mauraders) switch to BLs or back to mutas or something.

that is the stupidest analogy ive ever heard.


Lol why? It's spot on.

neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 13 2012 10:05 GMT
#179
yea...
that game was a terrible time to go ultrabanes
when there are like 15 tanks out, you do not use ultras...just that simple.
moo...for DRG
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 13 2012 10:05 GMT
#180
why attack from one angle only with ultralisks? When you have 9 ultras you probably shouldn't have more than 3-4 in one spot every, so have a bunch of them come from the other side in a flank.

DRG was pretty far behind all game long after his first failed attack, but he still could have made more out of the ultralisk push.
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