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Greggle
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1131 Posts
February 02 2012 15:56 GMT
#3081
Taeja is probably the best TvPer out there.
Life is too short to take it seriously.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
February 02 2012 15:58 GMT
#3082
On February 03 2012 00:52 dashmode wrote:
Funny how people call MMA's and MVP's TvP weak... show me one terran who is way better at TvP and please don't say Bomber lol.

I don't think his TvP is weak but it's definitely his weakest matchup. I couldn't watch all his games but in many of them his opponent handed the game to him. Also, he seems to be lost in the TvP endgame (e.g. set2 against Puzzle).

In contrast, MMA has shown muscular and dominating TvT and TvZ performances.
NiRvAnA22
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada50 Posts
February 02 2012 16:01 GMT
#3083
MMA just looks so badass, no wonder he advanced
Dogs are getting smarter while people are getting dumber
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
February 02 2012 16:03 GMT
#3084
On February 03 2012 00:56 Greggle wrote:
Taeja is probably the best TvPer out there.

No way.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 02 2012 16:07 GMT
#3085
what a great set of games. great group.
Professional tech investor, part time DotA scrub | Follow @AllMeasures on Twitter
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
February 02 2012 16:09 GMT
#3086
Taeja's TvP is one of the better I've seen. In general the level of TvP is poor though which is probably just the result of terrans never having had the need to really focus on it. MMA has won several tournaments without meeting protoss for example.
Also it's a matchup where terran can always roll the dice by doing some weird 1 base all-in which have decent win odds all the time. Untill this GSL there simply hasn't been a need to be good in TvP at all..
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 02 2012 16:10 GMT
#3087
Well, I think all the Ts are having a hard time with Ps late game... If your harass gets shutdown in mid game and you head to late game even, you need to get the perfect engagement to win. And with P having blink and force fields, it is easier for them to pull back if engage in a bad spot. Ts are pretty much hoping that Ps make a mistake to win...

And as for Taeja, he isn't doing well against the top Ps either...
Lunaro
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada77 Posts
February 02 2012 16:11 GMT
#3088
On February 03 2012 00:58 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 00:52 dashmode wrote:
Funny how people call MMA's and MVP's TvP weak... show me one terran who is way better at TvP and please don't say Bomber lol.

I don't think his TvP is weak but it's definitely his weakest matchup. I couldn't watch all his games but in many of them his opponent handed the game to him. Also, he seems to be lost in the TvP endgame (e.g. set2 against Puzzle).

In contrast, MMA has shown muscular and dominating TvT and TvZ performances.


Polt...
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 16:13:34
February 02 2012 16:11 GMT
#3089
There are no great TvPers. The match up is just bad for terran and rely on Protoss players making mistakes to win. When protoss get to use all their tech, they should win. The match up is just not balanced because of the terran's reliance on bio units. Hopefully it will change in hots with the viability of mech.

User was warned for this post
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
February 02 2012 16:12 GMT
#3090
On February 03 2012 01:11 Lunaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 00:58 Azzur wrote:
On February 03 2012 00:52 dashmode wrote:
Funny how people call MMA's and MVP's TvP weak... show me one terran who is way better at TvP and please don't say Bomber lol.

I don't think his TvP is weak but it's definitely his weakest matchup. I couldn't watch all his games but in many of them his opponent handed the game to him. Also, he seems to be lost in the TvP endgame (e.g. set2 against Puzzle).

In contrast, MMA has shown muscular and dominating TvT and TvZ performances.


Polt...




Polt was so 6 months ago. He's nothing special against Protoss now.
foxmulder_ms
Profile Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
February 02 2012 16:16 GMT
#3091
Good day for Slayer's... Good games, liked to watch them.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
February 02 2012 16:17 GMT
#3092
On February 03 2012 01:12 blamekilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 01:11 Lunaro wrote:
On February 03 2012 00:58 Azzur wrote:
On February 03 2012 00:52 dashmode wrote:
Funny how people call MMA's and MVP's TvP weak... show me one terran who is way better at TvP and please don't say Bomber lol.

I don't think his TvP is weak but it's definitely his weakest matchup. I couldn't watch all his games but in many of them his opponent handed the game to him. Also, he seems to be lost in the TvP endgame (e.g. set2 against Puzzle).

In contrast, MMA has shown muscular and dominating TvT and TvZ performances.


Polt...




Polt was so 6 months ago. He's nothing special against Protoss now.

you should watch MSI Cup Polt vs Oz

He is destroying protoss players left and right.
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
February 02 2012 16:19 GMT
#3093
On February 03 2012 01:12 blamekilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 01:11 Lunaro wrote:
On February 03 2012 00:58 Azzur wrote:
On February 03 2012 00:52 dashmode wrote:
Funny how people call MMA's and MVP's TvP weak... show me one terran who is way better at TvP and please don't say Bomber lol.

I don't think his TvP is weak but it's definitely his weakest matchup. I couldn't watch all his games but in many of them his opponent handed the game to him. Also, he seems to be lost in the TvP endgame (e.g. set2 against Puzzle).

In contrast, MMA has shown muscular and dominating TvT and TvZ performances.


Polt...




Polt was so 6 months ago. He's nothing special against Protoss now.

Pretty sure polt is still undefeated against protoss in gsl except against killer.....
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
February 02 2012 16:20 GMT
#3094
Fuck yeah!

MMA and Puzzle BOTH advanced?!??

So happy right now. Slayers fighting! Win the GSL and GSTL!
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 02 2012 16:21 GMT
#3095
Add Jjakji to that list as well, and Taeja IS a beast in TvP
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
February 02 2012 16:23 GMT
#3096
On February 02 2012 22:09 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 22:07 Mellon wrote:
On February 02 2012 22:06 Blacktion wrote:
Artosis calls: Supernova first, Oz second thats a T first, P second,
What actually happens: Puzzle first, MMA second thats a P first, T second

Artosis couldnt have been more wrong. Go on artosis, predict MMA to lose next round!


Don't forget he predicted MVP to advance for sure, then second place Curious. And just look at Clide...


That means MC and Jjakji are doomed tomorrow ...

You mean next week?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 02 2012 16:26 GMT
#3097
Well, the score was 2-1 for Polt. I think the important things is how he won. Care to recap the games? I don't think anyone is saying TvP is impossible to win. I think the thinking, even amongst Korean pros, is that if P doesn't make any big mistakes and get to late game, they are very tough to win against.

And there aren't really any timings early and mid game that they are very weak to and they have strong 2 base timing of their own as well
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
February 02 2012 16:27 GMT
#3098
On February 03 2012 01:19 Kazeyonoma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 01:12 blamekilly wrote:
On February 03 2012 01:11 Lunaro wrote:
On February 03 2012 00:58 Azzur wrote:
On February 03 2012 00:52 dashmode wrote:
Funny how people call MMA's and MVP's TvP weak... show me one terran who is way better at TvP and please don't say Bomber lol.

I don't think his TvP is weak but it's definitely his weakest matchup. I couldn't watch all his games but in many of them his opponent handed the game to him. Also, he seems to be lost in the TvP endgame (e.g. set2 against Puzzle).

In contrast, MMA has shown muscular and dominating TvT and TvZ performances.


Polt...




Polt was so 6 months ago. He's nothing special against Protoss now.

Pretty sure polt is still undefeated against protoss in gsl except against killer.....


He is 2-3 since the patch and lost against inca.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 02 2012 16:29 GMT
#3099
Taeja lost to Oz to drop to Code A and lost to Genius in the Up and Down... 2 games is a small sample size but we need to see how he does against the top Ps like MC, Puzzle, Oz, Parting, Genius.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 02 2012 16:32 GMT
#3100
2/2 SlayerS !!!
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
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