I can understand some "color" or some random talks but in the beginning of the game, Artosis and Tasteless are great examples of this, they talk briefly, or say a story as the game just starts but around 2 minute mark or so, is when they start analyzing the game, which makes them great casters. HD and PainUser are just talking basically the whole game and occasionally miss fights because they get to caught up in their own conversations. And also in my personal opinion, if your going to be a caster, they should be on top of players in scene, mispronouncing Goswser and not knowing half the things they are talking about when it comes to players and recent news is whats happening right now, and its kind of embarrasing. One thing i always admired about CatsPajamas is that he knows the scene, knows the players, recents accomplishements and victories that he can make good predictions and statements regarding the player playing. Im not out with a pitchfork and say to kick out HD and PainUser or anything. but more like Constructive Criticism, because not only it gets very uninteresting, but the game itself that they are casting becomes boring.

AntiLegend

Germany247 Posts

February 02 2012 03:14 GMT

#346

hooray for hiatus

Hulavuta

United States1252 Posts

February 02 2012 03:14 GMT

#347

Zenio simply does not lose ZvZ.

Except to Sen.

Flowjo

United States928 Posts

February 02 2012 03:14 GMT

#348

On February 02 2012 12:12 Crownlol wrote:
Zenio's ZvZ is crazy, this is over lol.

Speaking of Zenio, did anyone see his comment on the IEM finals? Was that an "eff you" to foreigners?

I doubt it, I mean that would be really really dumb because he's on teamliquid -_-

DMXD

United States4064 Posts

February 02 2012 03:15 GMT

#349

TL zergs ftw

CCa1ss1e

Canada3231 Posts

February 02 2012 03:15 GMT

#350

good games everyone.

Pocky52

United States463 Posts

February 02 2012 03:15 GMT

#351

Yeah Liquid! Great games by Sheth

edit: hahaha just realized that TL used all zergs... they have soo many gah

rOse_PedaL

Korea (South)450 Posts

February 02 2012 03:16 GMT

#352

DRG all kill anyone?

L_Master

United States8017 Posts

February 02 2012 03:16 GMT

#353

On February 02 2012 12:14 Flowjo wrote:

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I doubt it, I mean that would be really really dumb because he's on teamliquid -_-

What was his comment?

SilverLeagueElite

United States626 Posts

February 02 2012 03:17 GMT

#354

On February 02 2012 12:09 aRyuujin wrote:
Wait, so who IS Goswer the Gozerian?

Gozer from 80's movie, Ghostbusters.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

February 02 2012 03:17 GMT

#355

On February 02 2012 12:06 Hulavuta wrote:
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Guys did you hear? Zenio joined Liquid!

Yeah dude! Guess what! We got Bin Laden!! WEEGAWTEEAM

Loxley

Netherlands2480 Posts

February 02 2012 03:19 GMT

#356

On February 02 2012 12:02 Crownlol wrote:
Well, ok, stop hating on the casting.

The problem is that tonight we have two "color" commentators. I never laugh like this with other casters (except day9 obviously).

Honestly, I like it.. I know the game well enough, I can see what's happening. But I'm loling on the couch by myself at Painuser's sarcasm at HD. It's funny.

That having been said, they should couple a "color" caster with a "technical" caster. An Artosis or Catspajamas. Speaking of PJs, Cats is probably the most technically proficient caster in the industry at the moment (based on annunciation, intonation, tempo, pitch, etc), and with a strong color caster (or day9, who is both simultaneously), we could have some seriously strong casting.

From an anecdotal perspective, consider this: I was visiting my parents one night for dinner, and stayed late to watch some TAC. A friend of my parents happened to come downstairs to see what the noise was- ended up having a beer with me, turns out to be an executive at a huge media company. He had never seen starcraft, had no idea about the eSports community, but was very intrigued. He said it sounded like "mid 70's NFL football", with a kind of raw, fun commentary, with one "color" commentator and one "play by play" commentator. It was really fun to talk to this guy, and he ended up wanting a sort of "portfolio" of the starcraft community. Anyone have any ideas for a "Top Casts Ever"? I have to meet with this guy pretty soon, so far i'm combing through Day[J]Wheat and Tastosis vids trying to make a best-of.

Well i see your point but the difference between NFL-style/color commentators and this show is: utmost ignorance towards the games being played and a lack of respect towards their audience.

Whats fine: if they would go off-topic in a lull, uneventful bit of the game. Having good clean fun during the game, while keeping an eye out for the game they commentating.
Whats not fine: - Really,really bad calls (game is over! 20min later..),
- not keeping an eye on the game itself during commentary (missing baneling nest in sheth 10pool game?)
- Missing professionalism (their job is casting, not knowing their Own Map pool? - Calm before the storm)
- Missing professionalism 2 (droobie? Gowser-Gosu User..)
- Long offtopic discussions Between games.. (2min discussion that wouldn't even fit in TL general after a game).

Im all for color/play-by-play commentators. Cats is one, Husky does a great dual-tech-pbb cast, wheat pulls it off great..Tastosis are their teachers. But this cast specific (and HD by defacto) are not prime examples of good casting. Just check this topic, their audience was not pleased. Commercial entertainment 101 - thats a nono.

Not to badger them, hell they could have a fun show besides IPL, discussing funny names, swastika's, commendations (brrr), etc etc.. In a format that would fit them like a F*CK Slasher type show. Not during a livecast where 10k people are eager for insight/extra info they might have missed. Afterall, this is a online tournament from a big respectable corporation, not a basement show with my-first-webcam.
Respect your employer, your job, your audience, and all the energy that went into IPL to make it a succes. This was not it.