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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
February 01 2012 02:51 GMT
#561
I've seen this somewhere...
Did JYP nexus first?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
February 01 2012 02:52 GMT
#562
On February 01 2012 11:47 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 11:46 The Final Boss wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:38 Whatson wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:37 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:35 Whatson wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:32 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:27 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:25 Whatson wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:22 Olinimm wrote:
[quote]
Even if you disregard the fact MC has an insane winrate, Inori is still immensely overrated in PvP. He beat MC once, every other time MC owned him. And his stats are fucking awful.

Inori has beaten HerO, HuK, Sase, and Puzzle multiple times. He seriously only sucks in GSL for some unknown reason, but roflstomps all other Protosses in foreign tournaments. It helps that he's got that insane 3gate pressure build that gets more units than a regular 4gate...

Umm no. According to TLPD he beat them once. And he beat hero and puzzle in a best of one.

I'm sorry I didn't know TLPD was the end-all be all for databases. I watched HerO and HuK both lose to him in MLG and on IPL very convincingly. If you go just by TLPD...DRG's ZvT is his worst matchup, did you know that?

Link me to something that says Inori even played huk or hero at MLG.


http://reignsc2.com/2011/12/reign-vs-team-liquid-–-insight-into-ipl-team-arena-challenge/inori-v-hero/

I said MLG. please read what I actually say. Thanks.

Oops..you get the gist. Inori PvP > HuK and HerO PvP.

Since when are HuK and HerO considered the top PvPers who we are going to compare another player to in order to determine "the best." Inori has a weird style of PvP. MC, Oz, and Puzzle all have much better PvP than anybody else. InCa is gimmicky, Inori has a weird almost unexplored style (when he first came out at IPL I don't think that MC has much experience playing against it), HerO and HuK actually aren't as good as other players, and frankly the only people left are players like Oz, Puzzle, JYP, MC, and the like. PartinG is also really, good as I see a lot of people are completely failing to mention him.


On February 01 2012 11:35 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:32 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:32 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:30 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:29 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:22 Olinimm wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:18 dragonborn wrote:
On February 01 2012 11:15 Olinimm wrote:
[quote]
How is inori better at PvP than MC? He is 2-8 in PvP and lost to MC like 3 times. MC also has basically the same win % as Inca but has more games than Inca and beat him. Inori is so overrated at that matchup it's not even funny.

tlpd records isnt everything. FXOz %41 against Terran but i can say his PvT is top 3 in Korea.

also you should look latest tournaments MC played,he always out of tournament because of PvP.

Even if you disregard the fact MC has an insane winrate, Inori is still immensely overrated in PvP. He beat MC once, every other time MC owned him. And his stats are fucking awful.

Just saying,STATS ISNT EVERYTHING.

HuK have 45% PvP in Korea but he is 5-4 ahead against MC.

MC's PvP isnt in top 3,even Puzzle better than him.

How? You have no actual argument for that. Puzzle just lost to parting, he hasn't ever beaten MC, he has worse winrates, how is he better than MC?

I'm sorry I didn't know TLPD was the end-all be all for databases. I watched HerO and HuK both lose to him(Inori) in MLG and on IPL very convincingly. If you go just by TLPD...DRG's ZvT is his worst matchup, did you know that?


TLPD ISNT EVERYTHING.

PROVIDE AN ARGUMENT.


i just saw your posts in MC's fan club..

i understand you,you are a fanboy.

its hard to accept but MC sucks at PvP.

That's a terrible argument. MC is a force to be reckoned with. Who has he lost to in PvP? He lost to HuK, but they both know each other's styles so well that that doesn't really represent much of their "skill." If you're just going to troll, get off TL and stop posting retarded comments like "MC sucks at PvP."


Why are people arguing about PvP again?

Somebody brought it up, and people are on these odd bandwagons as far as who is the "best" player that have basically fallen off a long time ago.

InCa's PvP hasn't been "the best" since he beat Killer in the semis, his recent play against Oz (and more importantly Oz's play) as well as his games against MC have proven that he has lost the crown of the best PvPer too (don't worry, though InCa still has the crown for worst player in GSL, but that only lasts as long as he's actually in GSL).

When Inori first came out at IPL everybody was freaking out about him beating HuK and MC, but since then he has never really proven himself against the top Protoss players.

Then there are people claiming HerO and HuK, who are far from the best PvPers.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
February 01 2012 02:52 GMT
#563
CatsPajamas... Im not sure if I should facepalm or not, basically saying "2 rax is back" after 2 matches.. Sigh
Jaedong & Faker
Rabbet
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada404 Posts
February 01 2012 02:52 GMT
#564
That ramp makes nexus first possible.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
February 01 2012 02:53 GMT
#565
So ForGG, when is that 2 base banshee timing coming?
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26021 Posts
February 01 2012 02:53 GMT
#566
I may be made to look stupid, but I think this Nexus first risk might actually pay off
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
February 01 2012 02:54 GMT
#567
JYP feeling the pressure
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
February 01 2012 02:54 GMT
#568
oh wow that's a good decision, I'm really happy with JYP's willingness to sac that, now he just has to hold
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 02:55:23
February 01 2012 02:54 GMT
#569
...This isn't going to work out well for ForGG..
¯\_(シ)_/¯
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#570
Dat Pylon.
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#571
and then Fin leaves the pylon. Gosh
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 02:56:00
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#572
Some really awful micro by JYP but somehow he's still in it. He had no reason to lose that first sentry at the ramp and the n missing the second forcefield, ugh.
@followMVT
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#573
OMFG that pylon could win the game right there
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#574
Why would you not take down that pylon..?
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
tianyou546
Profile Joined December 2011
United States114 Posts
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#575
4 hp artosis pylon -_-
Loki57
Profile Joined February 2011
United States292 Posts
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#576
O_____O holy shit that was so fucking close rofl.
"Dedication without talent is a daydream. Talent without dedication is a nightmare."
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#577
These games are bad for sure.
Jaedong & Faker
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#578
wow JYP is seriously incapable of playing vs terran....im not sure how the hell he left him up the ramp what's the point of even saccing the nexus then?
Dembski
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland16 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 02:59:58
February 01 2012 02:55 GMT
#579
1 marine shot away from winning


Erm... what is wrong with ForGG? I do not see him making that kind of mistakes too often...
Strike hard and fast.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
February 01 2012 02:56 GMT
#580
Damnit Fin lead with one marine. Standard.
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