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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 29 2012 02:56 GMT
#341
On January 29 2012 11:55 Hulavuta wrote:
Nerchio woulda won if he had banelings.


Everyone's gonna blame his loss on Ultralisks though.


Too many ultras
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Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
January 29 2012 02:57 GMT
#342
Doesn't ultra baneling only work if the Terran doesn't target fire the banelings. With 15 tanks and 20 marauders, banelings don't seem all that useful.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 29 2012 02:57 GMT
#343
On January 29 2012 11:56 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 11:55 Hulavuta wrote:
Nerchio woulda won if he had banelings.


Everyone's gonna blame his loss on Ultralisks though.


Too many ultras


More like too many infestors. Almost all of them kept getting emp'd
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Taktik
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Poland680 Posts
January 29 2012 02:57 GMT
#344
Ultras in general dont seem all that useful
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 02:58:48
January 29 2012 02:58 GMT
#345
I don't understand zerg. Jjaki has been countering Nerchio's army comp for 15 minutes, but nerchio kept making the same units over and over... Furthermore he kept trying to engage (read: a-move) into chokes using ultras... I don't know
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Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
January 29 2012 02:58 GMT
#346
Those were some cute 'tricks' by nerchio, but he never really stood a chance in the main engagements, micro overwhelming.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
January 29 2012 03:00 GMT
#347
On January 29 2012 11:58 Al Bundy wrote:
I don't understand zerg. Jjaki has been countering Nerchio's army comp for 15 minutes, but nerchio kept making the same units over and over... Furthermore he kept trying to engage (read: a-move) into chokes using ultras... I don't know


sometimes you collapse and you think is allin when you comit to a comp . he just had tunnel vision happens to a lot of pro gamers
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Taktik
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland680 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 03:02:52
January 29 2012 03:01 GMT
#348
I blame lag for the last game.. u know Poland got 10x worse internet than germany so.. trololo ultras are bad etc.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 29 2012 03:01 GMT
#349
On January 29 2012 11:57 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 11:56 lichter wrote:
On January 29 2012 11:55 Hulavuta wrote:
Nerchio woulda won if he had banelings.


Everyone's gonna blame his loss on Ultralisks though.


Too many ultras


More like too many infestors. Almost all of them kept getting emp'd


There is no such thing as too many infestors! Blasphemy!

I agree that Nerchio needed better Infestor management in that game though.
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Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 03:06:04
January 29 2012 03:05 GMT
#350
It seems like Jjakji gets slightly better against Nerchio's weird style every game.

I can't imagine he expected to play a guy who guys infestor/roach vs Terran.
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
January 29 2012 03:06 GMT
#351
On January 29 2012 11:56 Eee wrote:
I think it has to do with Koreans not being used to latency rather than the latency between the servers. For example when sase went back to Sweden for Christmas hollydays he tweeted about how hard it was for him to play on eu (from Sweden) because there is such a difference between the cristal clear Korean one and the Swedish one.
Example two, I'm also pretty Sure that morrow expressed the same problem in an interview at NASL 2, he said that playing the lan tournament didn't feel nearly as clear as Korean ladder and that it was slightly annoying.

So I think Europeans/Americans are just more used to latency and can perform better even if they have lag. while Koreans rarely encounter it on Korean server but Europeans/americans do on their respective ones.

This is extremely true.
RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
January 29 2012 03:09 GMT
#352
Can anyone give me on recap on map choices and who won/lost for games 1~4?
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-29 03:13:55
January 29 2012 03:11 GMT
#353
I'd like to see more MMM stim timings vs Nerchio's style. Roaches are horrible against that, and if you hit before infestors are out I'm sure jjakji could steamroll his army every time.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
January 29 2012 03:12 GMT
#354
Looking at this thread, I'm not entirely sure if SC2 or Call of Duty's playerbase whine more about lag.
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Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
January 29 2012 03:13 GMT
#355
beast mode engaged
droxe
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany95 Posts
January 29 2012 03:13 GMT
#356
On January 29 2012 12:05 Seraphone wrote:
It seems like Jjakji gets slightly better against Nerchio's weird style every game.

I can't imagine he expected to play a guy who guys infestor/roach vs Terran.


Definetely looks like jjakji was at first surprised by his roach infestor style and is adapting now to his opponent.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45176 Posts
January 29 2012 03:14 GMT
#357
3-3, tied up! Jjakji seems to be slowly figuring out Nerchio's playstyle.
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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
January 29 2012 03:14 GMT
#358
thank god jjakji is stepping up, would be embarassing to see him get 5-0d
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 29 2012 03:16 GMT
#359
3 all seems a good place to get some sleep at haha, will catch the rest tomorrow.

glad Jjakji seems to have worked a few things out, the games have been pretty good all the way through =)
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 29 2012 03:16 GMT
#360
On January 29 2012 11:39 DirtyCash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2012 11:30 Eee wrote:
Beastyqt once wrote on TL that the lag from EU to NA was worse than KR to NA.


Well hes from Croatia right? That may be true in his case. Not for western Europe though

Well Nerchio is from Poland which isn't really Western Europe...

But regardless of what Beastyqt might say, every other pro I've heard has said the exact opposite. Maybe his home has really bad latency or something, but read stuff from any other pro (or just look at Jjakji's performance here) and you'll see that KR > NA is a lot worse than EU > NA.
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