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Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
January 20 2012 09:56 GMT
#481
On January 20 2012 18:53 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 18:52 mvtaylor wrote:
Oz's PvT on Korean TLPD is worse than MMA's TvP...


The stats are a bit misleading in this case. A very significant chunk of Oz's PvT losses came from quite a while ago when he didn't break out as a player yet.


Also he was 0-8 before his Code A run in PvT.
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
January 20 2012 09:56 GMT
#482
Oz should pick Genius, giving MMA another beast PvTer.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 09:57:38
January 20 2012 09:56 GMT
#483
On January 20 2012 18:54 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 18:52 mvtaylor wrote:
Oz's PvT on Korean TLPD is worse than MMA's TvP...

And according to TLPD ZvT is DRG's worst match-up.

TLPD doesn't mean shit.


Actually, DRG once said (in an interview) that he felt his ZvP was better and his ZvT was his worst match-up at the time.
This was after his 'slump' due to losses at MLG to MMA/Mvp, IIRC.
Liquipedia"Expert"
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
January 20 2012 09:56 GMT
#484
On January 20 2012 18:54 bucckevin wrote:
just because Oz beat MMA in a close BO5 doesn't mean he will automatically drop the next time they play. WTF is wrong with you guys? It should be a close series again.


cuz MMA TvP is not looking good (even in a game that he won T-T)
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 20 2012 09:56 GMT
#485
[image loading]
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
January 20 2012 09:57 GMT
#486
DRG The bad-ass!
No respect :D
Play the games!
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
January 20 2012 09:57 GMT
#487
On January 20 2012 18:53 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 18:52 mvtaylor wrote:
Oz's PvT on Korean TLPD is worse than MMA's TvP...


The stats are a bit misleading in this case. A very significant chunk of Oz's PvT losses came from quite a while ago when he didn't break out as a player yet.


Same for MMA... Apart from his 3-2 series against Oz, he last played a BoX series against P in June.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
January 20 2012 09:57 GMT
#488
that was a scary look by Genius O.O
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 20 2012 09:57 GMT
#489
On January 20 2012 18:54 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 18:52 mvtaylor wrote:
Oz's PvT on Korean TLPD is worse than MMA's TvP...

And according to TLPD ZvT is DRG's worst match-up.

TLPD doesn't mean shit.


I disagree. TLPD win percentages alone can be indicative of trends, but you definitely have to look at the actual games, when they were played, the circumstances, the quality of opponents, etc. to really evaluate things accurately. But the percentages aren't completely meaningless, you just have to be thorough in considering every possible factor.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 09:57:49
January 20 2012 09:57 GMT
#490
On January 20 2012 18:56 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 18:54 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 20 2012 18:52 mvtaylor wrote:
Oz's PvT on Korean TLPD is worse than MMA's TvP...

And according to TLPD ZvT is DRG's worst match-up.

TLPD doesn't mean shit.


Actually, DRG once said (in an interview) that he felt his ZvP was better and his ZvT was his worst match-up at the time.
This was after his 'slump' due to losses at MLG to MM/Mvp, I believe.

EDIT: NVM
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 20 2012 09:57 GMT
#491
On January 20 2012 18:56 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 18:54 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On January 20 2012 18:52 mvtaylor wrote:
Oz's PvT on Korean TLPD is worse than MMA's TvP...

And according to TLPD ZvT is DRG's worst match-up.

TLPD doesn't mean shit.


Actually, DRG once said (in an interview) that he felt his ZvP was better and his ZvT was his worst match-up at the time.

That was a fairly long time ago when you consider how fast the matchups change.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#492
I missed the joke. Why are the casters cracking up?
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#493
On January 20 2012 18:58 Elurie wrote:
I missed the joke. Why are the casters cracking up?

"I actually want to pick a Terran but I'm not sure Nestea can handle that"
<3 DongRaeGu <3
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#494
Just pick Alive DRG
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#495
LOL DRG U TROLL
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#496
lol DRG gets a chance to troll Genius :>
BeSt <3 | HoeJJa | Leta :: team Polt
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#497
HAHAHA genius
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#498
Is genius wearing braces or does he really have bad teeth?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#499
On January 20 2012 18:57 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 18:53 HolyArrow wrote:
On January 20 2012 18:52 mvtaylor wrote:
Oz's PvT on Korean TLPD is worse than MMA's TvP...


The stats are a bit misleading in this case. A very significant chunk of Oz's PvT losses came from quite a while ago when he didn't break out as a player yet.


Same for MMA... Apart from his 3-2 series against Oz, he last played a BoX series against P in June.


Fair enough. But Oz has recently shown quite capable PvT, while MMA hasn't really shown anything. Losing to Oz 2-3 doesn't make him terrible at TvP, but it doesn't exactly help erase the notion that his TvP is pretty mediocre.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
January 20 2012 09:58 GMT
#500
Ahahaha Genius such a troll.
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