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On January 17 2012 19:24 Sabu113 wrote:
Genius' build is just designed to deal with mutaballs. Phoenixes vs mutas >< Mnnnnnn
the fact is mutas will always win vs pheonix if pheonix isnt stacked and mutas are, the concept of phoenix counter muta is flawed, because they dont have splash dmg, so muta stacking will always win vs phoenix bbecause they stack worse, why? Well if you have 15 mutas concetrated in 1 point only the outlying pheonixes will shoot and all mutas will shot at once 1 shotting 1 phoenix and doing dmg to 2nd. Also the fact is that muta can focus fire while pheonix not. Phoenix is only the support unit vs big muta balls. And zerg players who lose mutas to phoenix just doesnt know that you can nullify them with micro. Corruptors are useless as they are slow and can be outrun.
And frankly only 1 player in world does that and its dimaga which baffles me because hes doing it since more than 1 year... its nothing new yet i see players believe in phoenix > muta myth. Because they thing phoenix is the main dealer which is not because its storm/archon that prevents clumping or stalker/cannon because its the main dps. What im saying of course doesnt mean 5 mutas will win vs phoenix what i mean is stacking power of muta which increases dramatically.
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On January 17 2012 19:32 mTwTT1 wrote:
hmm genius has a <50% winrate vs z yet he managed to beat one of the best z's players in the world.. thats odd i thought the statistics were always right
I don't know about you, but I read those stats as ~70% win chance for DRG.
It's not like they indicated a 100% win, why are you surprised?
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On January 17 2012 19:32 mTwTT1 wrote:
hmm genius has a <50% winrate vs z yet he managed to beat one of the best z's players in the world.. thats odd i thought the statistics were always right
They are, he still won less then 50% Facts don't lie, does not mean he can't win vs Z though.
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Sigh, conspiracies abound. For those not paying attention, DRG's not out of it yet. Nor it Genius confirmed to go through.
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Are we just linking random youtube videos that sound somewhat the same?
Genius is a baller 
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On January 17 2012 19:35 Xacalite wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:33 mrtomjones wrote:On January 17 2012 19:32 mTwTT1 wrote:
hmm genius has a <50% winrate vs z yet he managed to beat one of the best z's players in the world.. thats odd i thought the statistics were always right Statistics are right 110% of the time. 140% you mean
only in russia
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On January 17 2012 19:33 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:32 Hall0wed wrote:
As I expected DRG is pretty damn overrated ZvP. Very transparent style and anyone that studies his play in ZvP (which Genius has an especially easy time doing) should be able handle him.
Glad that I was right about that but disappointed DRG lost still, really want to see him go far in Code S. Want to see DRG, MMA, MKP, MC, and a few others in RO8 this season. ^_^ Who has the best ZvP exactly?
Nestea DRG and Curious are the top three on TLPD. I have seen Leenock do some nice games vs P as well though.
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On January 17 2012 19:34 Pipeline wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:30 aebriol wrote:On January 17 2012 19:29 Fragile51 wrote:
Amazing play by Genius, deserved 2-0! I am a zerg player, but I agree completely. He really showed off a very solid build vs zerg that can transition into either an almost all-innish attack off 2 base, or light harass into relatively fast third. Simply outplayed DRG. Protoss have been whining their asses of for mutas and how 'weak' protoss air is for almost a year now. Genius is the only protoss I know who goes airplay and gets upgrades for his air units. Most of his air builds (excluding his carrier build ^_^) work wonders vs zerg.
Yeah.
That's why.
=.=
I'm not sold that archons wouldnt have been a better pick over the pheonix. (Storm even better, though not sure how the timings all work with that rather than using hte sg you already have).
Edit: I miss Coca. Coca had an absurd ZvP.
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Glad to see a pro protoss using canons. Every tos on ladder (im diamond) just puts up canons like a terran would put up turrets and mutas are very hard to utilize. But for some reason pro protoss fail to put up canons even though they often have banked minerals.
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On January 17 2012 19:29 Mobius_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:22 Mobius_1 wrote:On January 17 2012 19:18 Mobius_1 wrote:
GSL Ro32 Group F
Match 2 Game 2
MVPDongRaeGu vs MVPGenius
Bel'Shir Beach Winter
0:00
DRG spawns Z10
Genius spawns P4
Genius FFE at the natural ramp
DRG pool then hatch, takes 3rd 5:00Genius opts for stargate once again, and goes up to 6 gates once again More or less deja vu on DRG's side as well 10:00Genius takes 3rd as DRG plants down Spire DRG attacks past the lower bridge with roach ling but held off by Genius with very little losses, and another at the 3rd minutes later DRG has an impressive ball of mutas but Genius once again prepared in the main with cannons and stalkers and also phoenixes 15:00Genius continues to fend off roach ling muta attacks at his 3rd DRG loses a big ground army at the lower bridge to Genius' deathball
20:00
BASE TRADE!
DRG manages to disable Genius' main and natural while he loses his bases
Genius saves his 3rd from DRG's remaining mutaling army and DRG GG's after losing said army
MVPDongRaeGu 0-2 MVPGenius!
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On January 17 2012 19:36 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:33 FuzzyJAM wrote:On January 17 2012 19:32 Hall0wed wrote:
As I expected DRG is pretty damn overrated ZvP. Very transparent style and anyone that studies his play in ZvP (which Genius has an especially easy time doing) should be able handle him.
Glad that I was right about that but disappointed DRG lost still, really want to see him go far in Code S. Want to see DRG, MMA, MKP, MC, and a few others in RO8 this season. ^_^ Who has the best ZvP exactly? Nestea DRG and Curious are the top three on TLPD. I have seen Leenock do some nice games vs P as well though.
coca if he ever gets to come back
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On January 17 2012 19:34 eYeball wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:33 bbQ4Aiur wrote:On January 17 2012 19:32 eYeball wrote:On January 17 2012 19:31 Maghetti wrote:
Man, this changes everything. DRG now has to beat JYP who is supposed to be better than Genius at pvz. DRG will crush JYP with ease :D no way in hell My prediction is 2-0 to DRG, what is yours?
2-1 and JYP win 
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Interesting matrches ahead...
sC vrs Genius is very open.
And with JYP great vsZ stats the second game should be really good aswell!
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I remember when artosis said when genius dropped out of code S that was it for him
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On January 17 2012 19:33 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:32 Hall0wed wrote:
As I expected DRG is pretty damn overrated ZvP. Very transparent style and anyone that studies his play in ZvP (which Genius has an especially easy time doing) should be able handle him.
Glad that I was right about that but disappointed DRG lost still, really want to see him go far in Code S. Want to see DRG, MMA, MKP, MC, and a few others in RO8 this season. ^_^ Who has the best ZvP exactly?
Nestea, Losira and Leenock all have far superior ZvPs.
EDIT: Coca as well.
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On January 17 2012 19:36 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:32 mTwTT1 wrote:
hmm genius has a <50% winrate vs z yet he managed to beat one of the best z's players in the world.. thats odd i thought the statistics were always right I don't know about you, but I read those stats as ~70% win chance for DRG. It's not like they indicated a 100% win, why are you surprised?
He was being sarcastic. TT1 is a known critic of people using TLPD as a large basis for their arguments.
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On January 17 2012 19:37 spacemonkeyy wrote:
I remember when artosis said when genius dropped out of code S that was it for him
Artosis? Wrong? NEVER
=3
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On January 17 2012 19:37 spacemonkeyy wrote:
I remember when artosis said when genius dropped out of code S that was it for him
i thought it was the last we would see of him too, i remembered he did a lot of all ins, but now he is playing some solid macro and its really impressive. if he hadnt changed his playstyle he woulda gone out of code s for good
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