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On January 27 2012 00:43 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 00:23 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:On January 26 2012 09:43 HappyChris wrote:On January 26 2012 07:44 JohnMatrix wrote:On January 26 2012 07:42 dsousa wrote: Everyone loses hope against Stephano. He is far an away the best foreign player right now. I can't even think who'd be 2nd to him, he's just steamrolling everyone he faces. tbh Kas and Mana played REALLY sloppy vs him To be fair towards Kas and Mana alot of it its mental. They have played Stephano so many times and lost like 99% of them so ofcourse those matches will be in there mind. Its like Goody vs Cloud something just happends mentally. Btw im kind of sad i missed this any1 got the vods? Mana is 9-8 vs Stephano and Kas 9-13, so doubt its that. Which stats are you taking? Stephano says 44-4 vs Mana and I know Kas havent been able to beat Stephano since summer last year No clue where you get your stats. But TLPD says what beastyqt says
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I don't think most people get how good the kid is. He's the best player bar-none. His unit control, decisions, reflexes, map awareness, etc etc are all above the Code S players.
The reason Nestea could be considered better is because Nestea takes the time to come up with really creative strategies that are designed to exploit his opponents decisions.
Stephano, for the most part, just plays his own game. This is why you have "counter" builds prepared for him. If he scouts it, which he will, he'll react. And if you give him an inch, he'll take a mile and take the game.
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On January 27 2012 00:47 ItchyLegs wrote: I don't think most people get how good the kid is. He's the best player bar-none. His unit control, decisions, reflexes, map awareness, etc etc are all above the Code S players.
The reason Nestea could be considered better is because Nestea takes the time to come up with really creative strategies that are designed to exploit his opponents decisions.
Stephano, for the most part, just plays his own game. This is why you have "counter" builds prepared for him. If he scouts it, which he will, he'll react. And if you give him an inch, he'll take a mile and take the game. You do realize that all you just wrote is not true, right? Yes, he is very good, but NO, he is not the best player in this world. Please open your eyes to reality.
Sad that MaNa and Grubby lost, but their big tournament wins will come this year, I am sure! Looking forward to the finals of this one...
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Where can i see the brakets ? Information pleaseeeeee-
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On January 27 2012 00:46 ragnorr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 00:43 HappyChris wrote:On January 27 2012 00:23 Empire.Beastyqt wrote:On January 26 2012 09:43 HappyChris wrote:On January 26 2012 07:44 JohnMatrix wrote:On January 26 2012 07:42 dsousa wrote: Everyone loses hope against Stephano. He is far an away the best foreign player right now. I can't even think who'd be 2nd to him, he's just steamrolling everyone he faces. tbh Kas and Mana played REALLY sloppy vs him To be fair towards Kas and Mana alot of it its mental. They have played Stephano so many times and lost like 99% of them so ofcourse those matches will be in there mind. Its like Goody vs Cloud something just happends mentally. Btw im kind of sad i missed this any1 got the vods? Mana is 9-8 vs Stephano and Kas 9-13, so doubt its that. Which stats are you taking? Stephano says 44-4 vs Mana and I know Kas havent been able to beat Stephano since summer last year No clue where you get your stats. But TLPD says what beastyqt says
He gets his stats from Stephano and Mana themself, yesterday during their match :
"Stephano : Ready for the 47-3? "Mana : Not a chance, it will be 45-5"
It's includes custom training games i think, and i don't know when they started to count their win.
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On January 27 2012 00:39 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 00:26 MrMercuG wrote:On January 26 2012 07:50 dsousa wrote:On January 26 2012 07:44 JohnMatrix wrote:On January 26 2012 07:42 dsousa wrote: Everyone loses hope against Stephano. He is far an away the best foreign player right now. I can't even think who'd be 2nd to him, he's just steamrolling everyone he faces. tbh Kas and Mana played REALLY sloppy vs him Well, even if they beat him, Stephano's record and achievements still smash there's. They're not in his league. Both great players, but at this point Stephano is a step beyond anyone not still alive in code S. Stephano is at that level now, you make a mistake, its over, you won't be coming back because he won't return the favor by making mistakes of his own. He is the best of both world, he plays almost completely error free, while being able to be aggressive because of his supreme unit control and his ability to preserve his lings. His opponents play sloppy, because they know they need to play near perfect to have a chance. Okay, Stephano is good, but I don't believe he would be able to survive the hell that is Code A, acording to your statement Stephano is better as fOrGG, July, Bomber, LosirA, TheSTC etc. etc. Again, he is good but he doesn't stand a chance against most of the Code A players. lol You do know Stephano destroyed all these players in Korea right?
LOL
You do know ladder is meaningless when it comes to ranking players right?
I think Stephano could handle Code A as long as he understands what to prioritize first. He doesn't panic and he executes his plans fairly well, which are the true keys.
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anyone know where i can watch these games back?
Thanks
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On January 27 2012 00:47 ItchyLegs wrote: I don't think most people get how good the kid is. He's the best player bar-none. His unit control, decisions, reflexes, map awareness, etc etc are all above the Code S players.
The reason Nestea could be considered better is because Nestea takes the time to come up with really creative strategies that are designed to exploit his opponents decisions.
Stephano, for the most part, just plays his own game. This is why you have "counter" builds prepared for him. If he scouts it, which he will, he'll react. And if you give him an inch, he'll take a mile and take the game.
Are you kidding me? Above Code S level? He should have won the Blizzard Cup than, instead of going 2-2
This Stephano is the "best in the world" crap is seriously starting to make me want to root against him.
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Yes, MVP prepared a counter-build for him and won with it. He also did a roach all-in vs MC which MC held. Like I said... people prepare counter builds for the kid and beat him with them, like RGNspades did during his stream today. Stephano smashed him in a macro game1, then Spades did a nice marauder hellion all-in game 2 and won.
His stream is available for everyone to watch; why don't you go check it out and see how good he really is for yourself?
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On January 27 2012 08:11 ItchyLegs wrote: Yes, MVP prepared a counter-build for him and won with it. He also did a roach all-in vs MC which MC held. Like I said... people prepare counter builds for the kid and beat him with them, like RGNspades did during his stream today. Stephano smashed him in a macro game1, then Spades did a nice marauder hellion all-in game 2 and won.
His stream is available for everyone to watch; why don't you go check it out and see how good he really is for yourself?
I have, he's obviously good, but he's not anywhere near as good as you say he is.
Claiming otherwise just shows ignorance and narrow mindedness.
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On January 27 2012 07:45 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 00:47 ItchyLegs wrote: I don't think most people get how good the kid is. He's the best player bar-none. His unit control, decisions, reflexes, map awareness, etc etc are all above the Code S players.
The reason Nestea could be considered better is because Nestea takes the time to come up with really creative strategies that are designed to exploit his opponents decisions.
Stephano, for the most part, just plays his own game. This is why you have "counter" builds prepared for him. If he scouts it, which he will, he'll react. And if you give him an inch, he'll take a mile and take the game. Are you kidding me? Above Code S level? He should have won the Blizzard Cup than, instead of going 2-2 This Stephano is the "best in the world" crap is seriously starting to make me want to root against him.
People hype then people hate, so people overhype and then people overhate
Neverending story
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On January 27 2012 08:35 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 07:45 1Eris1 wrote:On January 27 2012 00:47 ItchyLegs wrote: I don't think most people get how good the kid is. He's the best player bar-none. His unit control, decisions, reflexes, map awareness, etc etc are all above the Code S players.
The reason Nestea could be considered better is because Nestea takes the time to come up with really creative strategies that are designed to exploit his opponents decisions.
Stephano, for the most part, just plays his own game. This is why you have "counter" builds prepared for him. If he scouts it, which he will, he'll react. And if you give him an inch, he'll take a mile and take the game. Are you kidding me? Above Code S level? He should have won the Blizzard Cup than, instead of going 2-2 This Stephano is the "best in the world" crap is seriously starting to make me want to root against him. People hype then people hate, so people overhype and then people overhate Neverending story 
I think this is the first time I've seen someone proclaim Stephano to actually be a superior player to guys like MVP/MMA though. I mean, even if it's an analogy, comparing Spades to MVP is just downright insulting. I love the insinuation too...MVP obviously isn't as good as Stephano in a "real macro game."
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On January 26 2012 07:50 Agathon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 07:44 JohnMatrix wrote:On January 26 2012 07:42 dsousa wrote: Everyone loses hope against Stephano. He is far an away the best foreign player right now. I can't even think who'd be 2nd to him, he's just steamrolling everyone he faces. tbh Kas and Mana played REALLY sloppy vs him Exept this cup, tell me when Stephano did play fast Muta on antigua? Exept this cup, tell me when Stephano did play heavy roach/ling build on 3 bases? Exept this cup and blizzard cup, tell me when Stephano plaid cheesy rush roach? They seem to play sloppy because Stephano never play like that, it's unexpected 
1. He played fast muta on antigua at SC4 against Thorzain, one or two weeks ago. 2. Tons of time on ladder at least; there was an MLG he played it v boxer. 3. Against MMA at IPL, against MKP at HSC4, etc.
Stephano's versatility is another facet of his game that makes him so good. He doesn't do these builds all of the time but players have to know that he's capable of doing them; it keeps them honest.
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This tournament is ending tonight with Dimaga vs Polt, and Thorzain vs Stephano
Who will forfeit the finals ? let's find out
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Does anyone know where i can find vods/reps of grubby vs thorzain? thx
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On January 31 2012 17:47 kusu wrote:Does anyone know where i can find vods/reps of grubby vs thorzain? thx  Yes, I know.
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Hope for a dimaga - stephano rematch.
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On January 27 2012 08:44 Qaatar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 08:35 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:On January 27 2012 07:45 1Eris1 wrote:On January 27 2012 00:47 ItchyLegs wrote: I don't think most people get how good the kid is. He's the best player bar-none. His unit control, decisions, reflexes, map awareness, etc etc are all above the Code S players.
The reason Nestea could be considered better is because Nestea takes the time to come up with really creative strategies that are designed to exploit his opponents decisions.
Stephano, for the most part, just plays his own game. This is why you have "counter" builds prepared for him. If he scouts it, which he will, he'll react. And if you give him an inch, he'll take a mile and take the game. Are you kidding me? Above Code S level? He should have won the Blizzard Cup than, instead of going 2-2 This Stephano is the "best in the world" crap is seriously starting to make me want to root against him. People hype then people hate, so people overhype and then people overhate Neverending story  I think this is the first time I've seen someone proclaim Stephano to actually be a superior player to guys like MVP/MMA though. I mean, even if it's an analogy, comparing Spades to MVP is just downright insulting. I love the insinuation too...MVP obviously isn't as good as Stephano in a "real macro game." -_-
Saying Stephano is above Code S doesn't mean he's above players like Mvp and MMA who are also above the average Code S players. And wether you like it or not, Stephano has 2nd best ELO in the world, with only Mvp above him
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