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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 12 2012 15:21 GMT
#41
cheesing MKP Drowning a fish, anyone?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5595 Posts
January 12 2012 15:23 GMT
#42
DT's and proxies, aww yeah!
don't wall off against random
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
January 12 2012 15:25 GMT
#43
Damnit Parting seems to be reaaaaally good
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
January 12 2012 15:31 GMT
#44
Finale wtf?

Why run away?
Liquid | SKT
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 15:32:15
January 12 2012 15:31 GMT
#45
I think he just totally missed a drop in Finale's natural, judging from the minimap.

Oh, it was just a factory. XD
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
January 12 2012 15:32 GMT
#46
Finale being way too passive...he's intimidated by much smaller armies
Liquid | SKT
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
January 12 2012 15:39 GMT
#47
Why do people don't like cheese and proxy stuff? Dont you think it keeps the game interesting? It helps to produce some early aggression which a lot of peopel complain about is missing in SC2. And even in BW there were cheese - and they kill people, too! Or are they just whiny because their favourite player got killed? Imagine every game being a nexus/cc first PvT with nothing happening for the first 20 minutes. Do you really want this to happen?
Psi-Kick
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia182 Posts
January 12 2012 15:43 GMT
#48
Haha MKP <3
Prime | MKP <333
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
January 12 2012 15:44 GMT
#49
On January 13 2012 00:39 Tarotis wrote:
Why do people don't like cheese and proxy stuff? Dont you think it keeps the game interesting? It helps to produce some early aggression which a lot of peopel complain about is missing in SC2. And even in BW there were cheese - and they kill people, too! Or are they just whiny because their favourite player got killed? Imagine every game being a nexus/cc first PvT with nothing happening for the first 20 minutes. Do you really want this to happen?

I think cheese is so exciting.

I don't understand why there's this conception that ONLY MACRO CAN EVER BE A SIGN OF SKILL.
Liquid | SKT
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
January 12 2012 15:46 GMT
#50
On January 13 2012 00:39 Tarotis wrote:
Why do people don't like cheese and proxy stuff? Dont you think it keeps the game interesting? It helps to produce some early aggression which a lot of peopel complain about is missing in SC2. And even in BW there were cheese - and they kill people, too! Or are they just whiny because their favourite player got killed? Imagine every game being a nexus/cc first PvT with nothing happening for the first 20 minutes. Do you really want this to happen?

Most of the time its that. And then there are people who cry about players who cheese 100% of the time which is usually not true so yeah 95% of the whining is just stupid.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 12 2012 15:47 GMT
#51
On January 13 2012 00:46 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 00:39 Tarotis wrote:
Why do people don't like cheese and proxy stuff? Dont you think it keeps the game interesting? It helps to produce some early aggression which a lot of peopel complain about is missing in SC2. And even in BW there were cheese - and they kill people, too! Or are they just whiny because their favourite player got killed? Imagine every game being a nexus/cc first PvT with nothing happening for the first 20 minutes. Do you really want this to happen?

Most of the time its that. And then there are people who cry about players who cheese 100% of the time which is usually not true so yeah 95% of the whining is just stupid.


And that's why we like to do it anyway Also MKP cheeses way to much, see doing it again.
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
January 12 2012 15:50 GMT
#52
On January 13 2012 00:44 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 00:39 Tarotis wrote:
Why do people don't like cheese and proxy stuff? Dont you think it keeps the game interesting? It helps to produce some early aggression which a lot of peopel complain about is missing in SC2. And even in BW there were cheese - and they kill people, too! Or are they just whiny because their favourite player got killed? Imagine every game being a nexus/cc first PvT with nothing happening for the first 20 minutes. Do you really want this to happen?

I think cheese is so exciting.

I don't understand why there's this conception that ONLY MACRO CAN EVER BE A SIGN OF SKILL.


I think watching some cheese in between macro games is exciting but sometimes its too much so it becomes annoying.

Also I think most people hate losing to cheese and playing a macro game does take a lot more skill than cannon rushing for example but its nice that you never what they're going to do early game when watching, better than FE all day every day imo.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
January 12 2012 15:51 GMT
#53
On January 13 2012 00:50 secretary bird wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 00:44 DamageControL wrote:
On January 13 2012 00:39 Tarotis wrote:
Why do people don't like cheese and proxy stuff? Dont you think it keeps the game interesting? It helps to produce some early aggression which a lot of peopel complain about is missing in SC2. And even in BW there were cheese - and they kill people, too! Or are they just whiny because their favourite player got killed? Imagine every game being a nexus/cc first PvT with nothing happening for the first 20 minutes. Do you really want this to happen?

I think cheese is so exciting.

I don't understand why there's this conception that ONLY MACRO CAN EVER BE A SIGN OF SKILL.


I think watching some cheese in between macro games is exciting but sometimes its too much so it becomes annoying.

Also I think most people hate losing to cheese and playing a macro game does take a lot more skill than cannon rushing for example but its nice that you never what they're going to do early game when watching, better than FE all day every day imo.


My favorite kind of games involve one player cheesing and the other holding it off excellently. But somehow or someway, it balances out such that both players are on equal footing towards the end.

Cheese is excitely cuz its one of the best times to see amazing micro.
<3 DongRaeGu <3
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 15:54:55
January 12 2012 15:54 GMT
#54
Losira's micro ist just so good. I thought he was dead for sure.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 12 2012 15:57 GMT
#55
On January 13 2012 00:54 MrKn4rz wrote:
Losira's micro ist just so good. I thought he was dead for sure.


His hatch is so low on HP though, would be worth it for July to snipe it.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 12 2012 15:57 GMT
#56
Can someone tell me the final score of finale vs MKP? I was headed to work and missed the whole series.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
January 12 2012 15:58 GMT
#57
On January 13 2012 00:57 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Can someone tell me the final score of finale vs MKP? I was headed to work and missed the whole series.

The finale score was 2-1 to MKP
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 16:07:21
January 12 2012 16:04 GMT
#58
What map is that? Doesn't appear in the map pool according to LP.

Edit: It's Metropolis.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
January 12 2012 16:07 GMT
#59
On January 13 2012 01:04 TheBB wrote:
What map is that? Doesn't appear in the map pool according to LP.

Metropolis.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Moriarty
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom286 Posts
January 12 2012 16:08 GMT
#60
July = boo.
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