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Let's have a nice clean LR thread folks! Beware that moderation will probably be stricter than usual, balance whine, player bashing and trolling will not be tolerated!
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1941
On January 11 2012 19:17 Loophole wrote:
Can someone tell me why MVP is considered the best player in SC2 history when Nestea has won like 2 championships??


3 championships.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1942
Ok MVP. Show us how badly you're going to dominate this GSL season.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
654321
Profile Joined December 2011
Belize100 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 10:17:42
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1943
you are watching the best of 3, final of GSL right now . Cheer
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1944
Epically late pool from Nestea, like 17?
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1945
someone loses a ZvZ to nestea, arguably the best ZvZ in the world, and people start hating on idra?
maybe idra expected to lose and has been instead focusing on training for the following games. Although if MVP beats nestea then idra will have to play nestea again

i just hope he doesnt give up after one try into code S. Its the hardest tournament around and sometimes you can just get an unlucky group
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1946
This is a finals level matchup, crazy.
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1947
Dragon vs Knight! Now that's accurate!
BSOD
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1948
On January 11 2012 19:12 CrappyHippo wrote:
Maybe Naniwa will do better than Sen and Idra.


naniwa can't make it to code s on his own, so we'll probably never find out.
_Galad_
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece184 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1949
NesTea has this!
Channel the Light of Aiur...
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1950
So, while MVP is totally focused...

[image loading]

...NesTea looks stoned!

[image loading]
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Treziel
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1951
I don't get why people seem to think IdrA could beat MVP when the last few times he's played PuMa (who failed to qualify to code A) he's got absolutely crushed. That should tell you he cannot beat MVP.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1952
On January 11 2012 19:13 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 19:10 Jehct wrote:
On January 11 2012 19:08 Elem wrote:
On January 11 2012 19:07 pac.558 wrote:
2 straight build order losses
Poor play lost him both games.

What are you talking about? Neither side made any major mistakes at all. Game one was a straight build order loss (14/14 should hold that build every time, hatch first or 9pool can't hold it at all). Game two was Idra again playing a really risky macro build and Nestea doing a counter build and not fucking up.


Idra's micro and control in game 2 was a lot worse than Nestea's. I felt Idra was in a good position at certain points but Nestea just made right decision after right decision where as Idra (as usual) was completely lost in a weird/funky game. Nestea knew exactly what to do in that game all the way through, Idra didn't.

...they were almost identical, Nestea threw away a couple banelings and Idra threw away around 8-10 lings (but actually got some scouting for it). And no amount of micro and control lets 20 zerglings, a queen and a spine kill 25 zerglings with 6-8 banelings. Stop over-reading that game.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1953
On January 11 2012 19:16 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 19:13 654321 wrote:
Idra should play terran. TvT = macro game.

When you see how many TvTs end up with Commander Banshees, that makes me laugh.


haven't seen any banshees ending a game in TvsT for a long time now..
TvsT is definitely less coinflip than ZvsZ, althought mirror matches cannot avoid coinflips completely.
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
January 11 2012 10:17 GMT
#1954
mvp builds his rax on the lowground but nestea senses a disturbance in the force and spots it with his first overlord
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
January 11 2012 10:18 GMT
#1955
On January 11 2012 19:15 Titorelli wrote:
Plsss Nestea do this. I want to see Idras world class ZvT against the best Terran in the world, plsssssssssssss


You can't honestly believe that can you? Dont listen to everything Artosis says.
crack
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
January 11 2012 10:18 GMT
#1956
Mvp so good at building rax outside of his base
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
January 11 2012 10:18 GMT
#1957
On January 11 2012 19:15 Latty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 19:10 Jehct wrote:
On January 11 2012 19:08 Elem wrote:
On January 11 2012 19:07 pac.558 wrote:
2 straight build order losses
Poor play lost him both games.

What are you talking about? Neither side made any major mistakes at all. Game one was a straight build order loss (14/14 should hold that build every time, hatch first or 9pool can't hold it at all). Game two was Idra again playing a really risky macro build and Nestea doing a counter build and not fucking up.

You can defend him all day long, but its just too greedy to open hatch first an a map with a huge ramp where the natural is also far away from the main. this isnt a NA Ladder game where the opoonent is easily outmicroed or outmacroed. its the GSL Code S aka. best Players in the World. so its simply bad play when you pick a strategy that has obviously hardcounters.

I would normally agree with you but it's ZvZ, if you open anything other than 14/14 you could get a random BO loss. And realistically you aren't going to open zvz every game. He gambled that his cheese game one would scare nestea off and it didn't. That's all that happened. He didn't get outclassed. Anyone who says he did knows less aboutu ZvZ than Lucky.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 11 2012 10:18 GMT
#1958
On January 11 2012 19:17 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 19:17 Loophole wrote:
Can someone tell me why MVP is considered the best player in SC2 history when Nestea has won like 2 championships??


3 championships.


Blizzcon, MLG and on a bad day he might get 4th place. Usually a pretty bad day when that happens. Like he's been playing for 7 days straight.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 11 2012 10:18 GMT
#1959
On January 11 2012 19:15 zocktol wrote:
I am always astonished by the fact, that there are SO many really good people in this thread when it comes to SC2 strategy. It's not like Idra and Cella are actually doing this Starcraft 2 thing full time and people are still claiming that Idra played really bad.
In the first game he wanted to punish Nestea for Hatch before pool, in the second game Nestea did the same thing to him and succeded.


idra risked twice and paid the price, nestea risked once and he won, if idra was so good at zvz i guess he wouldnt mind playing 14/14 vs nestea in second game
Stork[gm]
GiggleFairy
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia331 Posts
January 11 2012 10:18 GMT
#1960
On January 11 2012 19:15 swinkles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 19:14 GiggleFairy wrote:
I really think that was good strategy by IdrA. I think he basically considered that first series a throw away, so he plays his match agaist Lucky, which he expects to win. He then is then basing an MvP win over Nestea, and has some special builds planned to dismantle NesTea in their second series, thus advancing 2-1.

I am very sure I am completely wrong, but hey a guy can hope right? And lets be honest, that play was not Idra. It was slow, sloppy, and bad decision making. This way he is banking on winning 2 ZvZ's over a match against MvP.

I guess we will see how he plays against lucky. If it is COMPLETELY a much higher level than those games, i think i might be right.



you blew my mind away...


Haha its an interesting thought ay? Maybe thats what he and cella have been discussing? Maybe not?

most likely in between games cella just came in and told him not to do that again.
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