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Tulkas25
Profile Joined August 2011
Greece292 Posts
January 10 2012 21:44 GMT
#3821
Anyone has an idea if its still possible to buy daily passes and how?? i am trying to find it on the gom site but it eludes me
What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 10 2012 21:44 GMT
#3822
On January 11 2012 06:27 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 06:26 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 11 2012 06:23 zyzq wrote:
On January 11 2012 05:40 Seraphone wrote:
On January 11 2012 03:57 Dreamer.T wrote:
Seems like Forgg was over-hyped. He's good, no doubt, but he's not going to just come in and start dominating code S like nothing. Looks like there's no competition between him and MVP atm.


MVP has lost to both MC and Leenock recently. It's not unreasonable MVP would have not made it out of this group too. It was that hard.


When has MVP ever lost to MC?


MLG Providence.


Didn't he win 4-2?


He lost the first set 2-0. Then in the losers' bracket MvP won the second and third sets to finish it at 4-2.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
January 10 2012 21:48 GMT
#3823
On January 11 2012 06:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 06:27 zyzq wrote:
On January 11 2012 06:26 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 11 2012 06:23 zyzq wrote:
On January 11 2012 05:40 Seraphone wrote:
On January 11 2012 03:57 Dreamer.T wrote:
Seems like Forgg was over-hyped. He's good, no doubt, but he's not going to just come in and start dominating code S like nothing. Looks like there's no competition between him and MVP atm.


MVP has lost to both MC and Leenock recently. It's not unreasonable MVP would have not made it out of this group too. It was that hard.


When has MVP ever lost to MC?


MLG Providence.


Didn't he win 4-2?


He lost the first set 2-0. Then in the losers' bracket MvP won the second and third sets to finish it at 4-2.

Thats not quite right. Its simply an extended series, not a second and third set.
secret - never again
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
January 10 2012 22:04 GMT
#3824
I feel like in the last few months there has been a huge amount of development in the TvZ matchup but almost nothing in ZvP. When was the last example of an epic back and forth game in ZvP? TvZ has become the positional matchup that equals broodwar in excitement and watch-ability, ZvP on the other hand not so much.
hohoho
Hopstick
Profile Joined August 2010
United States79 Posts
January 10 2012 22:07 GMT
#3825
I feel really bad for fOrGG. He really got shafted with this group, I honestly have no doubt had it been any other group he would've made it out and I have a feeling we would've seen him get through RO16 aswell. He just really caught the shaft because when you have only been playing for a few months and 1. You get Leenock, alright ya that is shit. But then 2. You get both Supernova (who has always been a beast) and MC (also always been a beast just slumped for awhile) and then to make that worse they are on your team so for the few months you have been playing you have been playing against them, they are going to know your every move, your strats, your reactions, he is a dynamite player but no matter how unique your strats are when you play with those people and ladder they are obviously going to be able to read you like a book just like Supernova did with MC. I feel like he will crush his way through Code A again because he really is Code S quality, and when we see him back next month (hopefully he wont get shafted into a group of his teammates again) he will be that much more dominant with another month under his belt.
Apolex
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada103 Posts
January 10 2012 22:11 GMT
#3826
On January 11 2012 07:07 Hopstick wrote:
I feel really bad for fOrGG. He really got shafted with this group, I honestly have no doubt had it been any other group he would've made it out and I have a feeling we would've seen him get through RO16 aswell. He just really caught the shaft because when you have only been playing for a few months and 1. You get Leenock, alright ya that is shit. But then 2. You get both Supernova (who has always been a beast) and MC (also always been a beast just slumped for awhile) and then to make that worse they are on your team so for the few months you have been playing you have been playing against them, they are going to know your every move, your strats, your reactions, he is a dynamite player but no matter how unique your strats are when you play with those people and ladder they are obviously going to be able to read you like a book just like Supernova did with MC. I feel like he will crush his way through Code A again because he really is Code S quality, and when we see him back next month (hopefully he wont get shafted into a group of his teammates again) he will be that much more dominant with another month under his belt.

Unfortunately with the new format, gsl is now every two months instead of one.... we won't be seeing him in code s for another two months =(
Jealousy is a sin.
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
January 10 2012 22:11 GMT
#3827
Supernova didn't deserve 1st place. all he did was abuse early terran rushes.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
January 10 2012 22:12 GMT
#3828
On January 11 2012 07:07 Hopstick wrote:
I feel really bad for fOrGG. He really got shafted with this group, I honestly have no doubt had it been any other group he would've made it out and I have a feeling we would've seen him get through RO16 aswell. He just really caught the shaft because when you have only been playing for a few months and 1. You get Leenock, alright ya that is shit. But then 2. You get both Supernova (who has always been a beast) and MC (also always been a beast just slumped for awhile) and then to make that worse they are on your team so for the few months you have been playing you have been playing against them, they are going to know your every move, your strats, your reactions, he is a dynamite player but no matter how unique your strats are when you play with those people and ladder they are obviously going to be able to read you like a book just like Supernova did with MC. I feel like he will crush his way through Code A again because he really is Code S quality, and when we see him back next month (hopefully he wont get shafted into a group of his teammates again) he will be that much more dominant with another month under his belt.

Yah... because a group with MVP/Nestea/Idra or MMA would have been so much easier to get out of. He didn't get shafted. Every group is quite tough and he simply lost.
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
January 10 2012 22:50 GMT
#3829
President Boss Toss taking Leenock out. SOOOOOOO GOOOOOD.
Turn it Up
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
January 10 2012 22:52 GMT
#3830
On January 11 2012 07:12 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 07:07 Hopstick wrote:
I feel really bad for fOrGG. He really got shafted with this group, I honestly have no doubt had it been any other group he would've made it out and I have a feeling we would've seen him get through RO16 aswell. He just really caught the shaft because when you have only been playing for a few months and 1. You get Leenock, alright ya that is shit. But then 2. You get both Supernova (who has always been a beast) and MC (also always been a beast just slumped for awhile) and then to make that worse they are on your team so for the few months you have been playing you have been playing against them, they are going to know your every move, your strats, your reactions, he is a dynamite player but no matter how unique your strats are when you play with those people and ladder they are obviously going to be able to read you like a book just like Supernova did with MC. I feel like he will crush his way through Code A again because he really is Code S quality, and when we see him back next month (hopefully he wont get shafted into a group of his teammates again) he will be that much more dominant with another month under his belt.

Yah... because a group with MVP/Nestea/Idra or MMA would have been so much easier to get out of. He didn't get shafted. Every group is quite tough and he simply lost.

FIFA, ForGG has been playing for over 8 months. He loss. It's simple as that.
Turn it Up
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
January 10 2012 22:58 GMT
#3831

FIFA, ForGG has been playing for over 8 months. He loss. It's simple as that.

What FIFA mean?

Googling FIFA doesn't help, they only have the soccer definition
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
January 10 2012 23:12 GMT
#3832
HAHAHA So much for all the forgg hype
Hopstick
Profile Joined August 2010
United States79 Posts
January 10 2012 23:14 GMT
#3833
On January 11 2012 07:12 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 07:07 Hopstick wrote:
I feel really bad for fOrGG. He really got shafted with this group, I honestly have no doubt had it been any other group he would've made it out and I have a feeling we would've seen him get through RO16 aswell. He just really caught the shaft because when you have only been playing for a few months and 1. You get Leenock, alright ya that is shit. But then 2. You get both Supernova (who has always been a beast) and MC (also always been a beast just slumped for awhile) and then to make that worse they are on your team so for the few months you have been playing you have been playing against them, they are going to know your every move, your strats, your reactions, he is a dynamite player but no matter how unique your strats are when you play with those people and ladder they are obviously going to be able to read you like a book just like Supernova did with MC. I feel like he will crush his way through Code A again because he really is Code S quality, and when we see him back next month (hopefully he wont get shafted into a group of his teammates again) he will be that much more dominant with another month under his belt.

Yah... because a group with MVP/Nestea/Idra or MMA would have been so much easier to get out of. He didn't get shafted. Every group is quite tough and he simply lost.


Ya when I said next month I meant next season of GSL but just aid it stupid lol. I was not saying that every group was not hard, because they all are very difficult, I am saying that when half of your group is people that can read you like a book it makes it very hard, especially for someone that has a unique style like fOrGG, when alot of his style comes from things that people don't play against often and then you throw him in a group with 2 of the 3 players being people that play against him often it really fucks with his style see what I am saying? Also as someone said he has been playing for 8 months, when half the time of your development in a game is spent playing with certain players they are going to be able to read you while they have been playing twice as long as you making it that much harder for you to read them as it is for them to read you.
Rinnegan5
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands319 Posts
January 10 2012 23:15 GMT
#3834
You can see ForGG's mechanics are awesome. But still poor decision making. But I see that coming very shortly. Definitely a future champion. Glad MC made it though, he has become my favorite player.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
January 10 2012 23:36 GMT
#3835
On January 11 2012 07:11 Lewan72 wrote:
Supernova didn't deserve 1st place. all he did was abuse early terran rushes.

All he did was win.
strava.com/athletes/zhaodynasty
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 10 2012 23:41 GMT
#3836
On January 11 2012 04:05 Little-Chimp wrote:
Wow I expected so much more from this series.
Leenock vs forGG game 1 got my hopes up and then...
1-1-1 x 2, supernova, void ray allins, proxy hatches, baneling busts, 7 gates
awful


lol basically they did whatever it takes to win and advance in Code S. I'm pretty sure they didn't have a no rush for 15 minutes rule where they planned for each game to be a 30 min long macro game. That's whole point of the Bo3 format is to see how your opponent will react to your build orders each game. "metagaming" or whatever.

You got to admit that 1-1-1 on Antiga Shipyard with the cloak banshee against MC was pretty sneaky. MC: "There's no way he would do a 1-1-1 twice... OH FUCK CLOAK BANSHEE!" (all of MC's probes are dead)
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
gosu86
Profile Joined June 2011
208 Posts
January 11 2012 00:12 GMT
#3837
On January 10 2012 22:52 purpose wrote:
I think Naniwa is a childish person who often do things that is not really smart. He and Idra are much alike tbh.

still I think GSL did wrong. Sure they had the right to do what they did but it still was stupied.

As for watching it, I am not and I feel freaking GREAT!! I can think of 1000 things that I rather do then watch GSL tbh. But thats just my personal preference. So you enjoy it!


yeah ok why are u even trolling the gsl forums than lol
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
January 11 2012 00:32 GMT
#3838
MC such a boss. Only had 3 hours to prepare for his group. Beating ForGG in macro games, holding off Leenocheese, though falling short to Supernova's cheeses.

And TL still whines about MC's playstyle.

Btw am I the only one who is annoyed at hearing "mass gateway units only"? Is that even supposed to be a negative? TvP consists of "mass rax" unit with bio. Haters these days man
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
January 11 2012 00:40 GMT
#3839
On January 11 2012 05:58 Canucklehead wrote:
Nice MC moving on even with jetlag! He's currently the best toss in the world again. Lol at the people complaining about mc cheese, when leenock tried to cheese him games 1 and 2. Also lol to people saying mc never goes off 2 bases, when in games 1 and 2 against forgg he went to 3 and 4 bases in macro games.

You have to understand, MC needed to punish the 3 early hatch build by leenock on daybreak. When a toss forge fe on that map and zerg takes 3 quick bases, then if the toss doesn't punish it, then you get stephano vs nightend at home story cup where zerg will just overrun you with roaches and there's nothing the toss can do about it.


MC is merciless.

As soon as he sees an opportunity to win he grabs it with both hands. People seem to confuse this with being a 1 base / 2 base rush player. If he gets no opportunity to strike he keeps taking bases, but if he sees an opening he'll go for it to secure the win.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
January 11 2012 00:41 GMT
#3840
On January 11 2012 01:46 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 01:41 Assirra wrote:
On January 11 2012 01:04 jyLee wrote:
Doesnt change the fact that ForGG still got through Code A on his FIRST attempt on pure mechanics. Yes he's hyped almost as much as Tebow but if you watch his stream you can understand where it comes from. His mechanics are on par with MVP and probably better after what I've seen on both their streams. I think if ForGG actually studied the game rather than just hone mechanics, he would be a monster. Its clear he's got the bw mindset that mechanics >>> strategy and thats not the case for sc2.

I really wish people would stop using the "i watched his stream" excuse for so many players.
Guess what, on stream/ladder you can get away with so much and fight a lot lower competition.
It's simply not compareable.


Exactly. If people went entirely by what they saw on streams, Hero would undoubtedly be the best player in the world. He isn't.


No, you are wrong. For protoss players, Mc's stream is simply much better. But Mc does not play on ladder that much like Hero does.
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