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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 16:41:10
January 15 2012 16:38 GMT
#2201
On January 16 2012 01:33 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 01:29 b0rt_ wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:25 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:17 DamageControL wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:15 Bashion wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:08 Intricacy wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.


Choose from the following reasons:

A) Because it's our tournament.
B) Because he sacrifices his stream income for the prize pool for every SCi.
C) Because he and dApollo are a casting pair.
D) All the above.

*Please note: Everyone is entitled to their opinion with regards to my husband's casting ability/performance, however it will never affect the casting team selected for this tournament (for obvious reasons).


Like Husky said, people will hate, no matter what you do. Even if Tb was a GM player, someone would find a reason to flame.
The better way to deal with that kind of people is to ignore them.


He also offered no criticism of how his "silver league"-ness actually affects the cast. He's just saying he's bad at this game.


Being in silver league casting progamer level play is my criticism. It's irritating at times considering he makes the wrong calls, over enthusiastic, doesn't listen to what Apollo syas and will follow up essentially repeating the same things over and over because he lacks proper experience and education of the game. I never said he was horrible, I never said I didn't like him, I simply stated it should be considered, but I'm wrong since it's his event so go for it.

Your one sided thinking is evident. It's okay, If no one says anything the quality will remain the same, but that's fine because he appeals to very large audience rendering my opinions invalid. I'm sorry(but not really sorry) if I offended all of you, I thought I could openly ask a question or state my opinion without getting flamed for bad manner and what have you.


Why be such a hypocrite. It's ok for you to flame TB when it's his tournament and his money but not ok for people to flame your flame?


I was being sarcastic in my apology. I don't really care if I hurt some fans feelings. In reality I can't argue with people who are unwilling to accept valid criticism because they can't get their feelings and emotions out of the way.

My question was answered. That doesn't mean the answer is right. So no, it wasn't rhetorical.


If the answer is the wrong one, why bother asking in the first place?

You know what the wrong answer is, so what is the right one?
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
January 15 2012 16:40 GMT
#2202
No queens with the broodlords, they will die so fast now.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
January 15 2012 16:41 GMT
#2203
I'm toss. Can I exchange battlecruisers for ghosts ?
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
January 15 2012 16:41 GMT
#2204
Stop feeding the troll folks, don't give him the false impression that we care about his opinion.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 15 2012 16:41 GMT
#2205
On January 16 2012 01:41 Eurekastreet wrote:
I'm toss. Can I exchange battlecruisers for ghosts ?

in HOTS you can with the replicant unit
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
January 15 2012 16:41 GMT
#2206
imagine those 100 lings in thorzains base with a nydus
Froob
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom342 Posts
January 15 2012 16:42 GMT
#2207
nice macro ret :D
イア
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
January 15 2012 16:42 GMT
#2208
wow the snipes did a lot of damage. I mean he still lost but damn those ghosts.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 15 2012 16:42 GMT
#2209
great game
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
WaldosLonelyWife
Profile Joined December 2011
United States20 Posts
January 15 2012 16:42 GMT
#2210
On January 16 2012 01:37 Trowa127 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 01:33 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:29 b0rt_ wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:25 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:17 DamageControL wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:15 Bashion wrote:
On January 16 2012 01:08 Intricacy wrote:
On January 16 2012 00:57 WaldosLonelyWife wrote:
Someone remind me why a player who is in silver league with no StarCraft history is casting these games? Find another caster and make TB a dedicated observer.


Choose from the following reasons:

A) Because it's our tournament.
B) Because he sacrifices his stream income for the prize pool for every SCi.
C) Because he and dApollo are a casting pair.
D) All the above.

*Please note: Everyone is entitled to their opinion with regards to my husband's casting ability/performance, however it will never affect the casting team selected for this tournament (for obvious reasons).


Like Husky said, people will hate, no matter what you do. Even if Tb was a GM player, someone would find a reason to flame.
The better way to deal with that kind of people is to ignore them.


He also offered no criticism of how his "silver league"-ness actually affects the cast. He's just saying he's bad at this game.


Being in silver league casting progamer level play is my criticism. It's irritating at times considering he makes the wrong calls, over enthusiastic, doesn't listen to what Apollo syas and will follow up essentially repeating the same things over and over because he lacks proper experience and education of the game. I never said he was horrible, I never said I didn't like him, I simply stated it should be considered, but I'm wrong since it's his event so go for it.

Your one sided thinking is evident. It's okay, If no one says anything the quality will remain the same, but that's fine because he appeals to very large audience rendering my opinions invalid. I'm sorry(but not really sorry) if I offended all of you, I thought I could openly ask a question or state my opinion without getting flamed for bad manner and what have you.


Why be such a hypocrite. It's ok for you to flame TB when it's his tournament and his money but not ok for people to flame your flame?


I was being sarcastic in my apology. I don't really care if I hurt some fans feelings. In reality I can't argue with people who are unwilling to accept valid criticism because they can't get their feelings and emotions out of the way.

My question was answered. That doesn't mean the answer is right. So no, it wasn't rhetorical.


Valid criticism? You gave no examples of when TB has made a horrible call this tournament. I also don't see why being enthusiastic whilst casting is bad. And finally, not that it matters, he isn't even silver league. I like TB because of what he does for the sc2 community, and the fact that he's growing the sc2 fan base. Surely putting 5k of your own money on the line more than makes up for some questionable calls?



I don't believe I have to give examples, but in the event that I really have to then I will. Just for you. I never said being enthusiastic while casting is bad, I said being overly enthusiastic. Which happens pretty much every engagement in which he yells into the microphone, scrambles his words, and presents false theories of who will win based off his lack of education. Last time I watched him stream he was in silver league. If he is in gold now, the concept is the same. I appreciate his efforts too with the community. That doesn't mean he is immune to my criticism. I don't think money is an issue from someone who is partnered with YouTube, TwitchTV, runs his own website, and also funds tournaments with the aid of donations as well.
Satisfaction comes in small victories.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
January 15 2012 16:42 GMT
#2211
Ret played so fucking sick, GJ!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#2212
On January 16 2012 01:41 Eurekastreet wrote:
I'm toss. Can I exchange battlecruisers for ghosts ?


You don't have battlecruiser, you thief !
BCs are still better than Carriers anyway. :D
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
January 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#2213
Wellplayed by Ret
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
January 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#2214
No one does it like MVP man. Hate it when people discredit MVP by saying ghosts imba. Fact is, its incredibly difficult to pull this ghost thing off....

Great play by Ret though, thorzain should attempt to finish games off before the final tier.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#2215
Yay Ret!
polybios
Profile Joined December 2010
Czech Republic111 Posts
January 15 2012 16:43 GMT
#2216
zerg can't beat mass ghost, right?
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
January 15 2012 16:44 GMT
#2217
On January 16 2012 01:43 polybios wrote:
zerg can't beat mass ghost, right?


Zergs can't beat MVP's ghosts
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
January 15 2012 16:44 GMT
#2218
On January 16 2012 01:41 Mawi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 01:41 Eurekastreet wrote:
I'm toss. Can I exchange battlecruisers for ghosts ?

in HOTS you can with the replicant unit


Replicant ? A Jean Claude Van Damme unit incoming ?
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
January 15 2012 16:45 GMT
#2219
I never understood why ret play so sloppy.
Its grack
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 15 2012 16:45 GMT
#2220
At the heart of the battle, as always, were the infestors and the ghosts - the "playmakers" of sc2 if we use soccer terms - and this time the ghosts got fungaled and revealed for terrible broodling death, instead of succeeding to EMP the infestors first.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
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