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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 11:30:27
January 09 2012 11:25 GMT
#1781
On January 09 2012 20:24 SkullZ9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:23 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:22 Sneakyz wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:20 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:17 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:15 bittman wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:13 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:12 Cramsy wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:07 deadmau wrote:
This match should reveal whether Jjakji was a fluke champion or not.


lol 1 match in a best of 3 can render and entire GSL Championship 'a fluke' ?


True, but he still hasn't proven much.


He's proven he can win a championship.

But I guess if you're saying "proven champion" like he can win again and again and again forever and ever I guess there are only 3 proven champions in sc2?


I'd say 4 proven.

Nestea, MC, MvP, MMA...PROVEN champions. And yes that is the definition i'm going by, guys that have shown that they can withstand the fuckton of pressure of multiple GSL runs to the Final and actually take em.


Multiple gsl runs to the final ? MC has gone to ONE finals

That's weird considering he's won two.


As I said fanboys and antifanboys blindly defending/attacking with incorrect facts or lack of facts.


Hey calm down a bit, i said I was sorry for the mistake, so the only antifanboy here is you saying Jjakji hasn't proved anything. In fact I like MC a lot and I think he's the best protoss in the world, so stfu


What the heck, first I am a fanboy of Sen, then I am fanboy of MC? Where are you guys pulling this out of the a-holes.

To be correct, I am also a fanboy like many here, but only of the 4 proven =D Whether they have fallen in or out of Code S/A, they are all proven to withstand the test of time.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
January 09 2012 11:26 GMT
#1782
On January 09 2012 20:22 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:19 Seeker wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:12 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:10 andaylin wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:10 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:08 andaylin wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:07 deadmau wrote:
This match should reveal whether Jjakji was a fluke champion or not.

lol wut? jjakji has more than proven that he is a champion.


Really...proven after one championship...

watch his play bro.


That makes him proven? Are you guys seriously fanboying this bad. Do you guys not what the fuck PROVEN means. WTF has he proven after his 1 fluke championship. You are really debating with me he has PROVEN something after winning 1 and 0 other have completed.

Uhhhhh...... Chill out bro


My bad, I was up in arms about blantant blind defense of a player due to fanboy-ism, without looking at hard facts, which there are none to go by since as I said before, he has yet to prove anything without a run in another season.

I understand. I also agree wih you. I also believe that u can get your point across without using caps and curse words.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
January 09 2012 11:26 GMT
#1783
questionable decision making by ganzi. bye bye army
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
January 09 2012 11:26 GMT
#1784
On January 09 2012 20:25 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:22 bittman wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:17 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:15 bittman wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:13 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:12 Cramsy wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:07 deadmau wrote:
This match should reveal whether Jjakji was a fluke champion or not.


lol 1 match in a best of 3 can render and entire GSL Championship 'a fluke' ?


True, but he still hasn't proven much.


He's proven he can win a championship.

But I guess if you're saying "proven champion" like he can win again and again and again forever and ever I guess there are only 3 proven champions in sc2?


I'd say 4 proven.

Nestea, MC, MvP, MMA...PROVEN champions. And yes that is the definition i'm going by, guys that have shown that they can withstand the fuckton of pressure of multiple GSL runs to the Final and actually take em.


Then will Jjakji be a fluke champion if he doesn't win this GSL? Because MVP fell to Code A, MC fell to Code B, Nestea hasn't seen a final in a long time and MMA only "proved" himself via blizzard cup.

So let's track back. This match does not reveal whether Jjakji is a fluke champion. Perhaps the next 4 GSL's will, even by your estimation.


Right, this alone can't confirm it was a fluke championship, but my opinion was that his 1st was, and my statement is that he is unproven, which is correct. Opinion =/= statement.


people might take your opinion more seriously if you dont frame it in a way that makes you look like a dick
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
January 09 2012 11:26 GMT
#1785
IMMENSELY
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7979 Posts
January 09 2012 11:27 GMT
#1786
i think the move was great by ganzi because he could take control of the middle which this is all about now right?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 09 2012 11:27 GMT
#1787
the casting archon indeed...
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
January 09 2012 11:27 GMT
#1788
Ganzi is just one of those players that is just a mess in every game but he still manages to win : /
datacore
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia32 Posts
January 09 2012 11:27 GMT
#1789
it's like we finish each others sentences at the same time!
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
January 09 2012 11:27 GMT
#1790
On January 09 2012 20:25 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:24 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:23 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:22 Sneakyz wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:20 SkullZ9 wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:17 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:15 bittman wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:13 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:12 Cramsy wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:07 deadmau wrote:
This match should reveal whether Jjakji was a fluke champion or not.


lol 1 match in a best of 3 can render and entire GSL Championship 'a fluke' ?


True, but he still hasn't proven much.


He's proven he can win a championship.

But I guess if you're saying "proven champion" like he can win again and again and again forever and ever I guess there are only 3 proven champions in sc2?


I'd say 4 proven.

Nestea, MC, MvP, MMA...PROVEN champions. And yes that is the definition i'm going by, guys that have shown that they can withstand the fuckton of pressure of multiple GSL runs to the Final and actually take em.


Multiple gsl runs to the final ? MC has gone to ONE finals

That's weird considering he's won two.


As I said fanboys and antifanboys blindly defending/attacking with incorrect facts or lack of facts.


Hey calm down a bit, i said I was sorry for the mistake, so the only antifanboy here is you saying Jjakji hasn't proved anything. In fact I like MC a lot and I think he's the best protoss in the world, so stfu


What the heck, first I am a fanboy of Sen, then I am fanboy of MC? Where are you guys pulling this out of the a-holes.


Where did I say you were a fan of MC lol ?
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
January 09 2012 11:27 GMT
#1791
On January 09 2012 20:27 Tsubbi wrote:
i think the move was great by ganzi because he could take control of the middle which this is all about now right?

take control of the middle with like, no tanks? haha
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
January 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#1792
On January 09 2012 20:26 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:22 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:19 Seeker wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:12 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:10 andaylin wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:10 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:08 andaylin wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:07 deadmau wrote:
This match should reveal whether Jjakji was a fluke champion or not.

lol wut? jjakji has more than proven that he is a champion.


Really...proven after one championship...

watch his play bro.


That makes him proven? Are you guys seriously fanboying this bad. Do you guys not what the fuck PROVEN means. WTF has he proven after his 1 fluke championship. You are really debating with me he has PROVEN something after winning 1 and 0 other have completed.

Uhhhhh...... Chill out bro


My bad, I was up in arms about blantant blind defense of a player due to fanboy-ism, without looking at hard facts, which there are none to go by since as I said before, he has yet to prove anything without a run in another season.

I understand. I also agree wih you. I also believe that u can get your point across without using caps and curse words.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, I CAN GET MY FUCKING POINT ACROSS WITHOUT SWEARING AND USING CAPS? SHIT

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soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
January 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#1793
On January 09 2012 20:25 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:22 bittman wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:17 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:15 bittman wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:13 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:12 Cramsy wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:07 deadmau wrote:
This match should reveal whether Jjakji was a fluke champion or not.


lol 1 match in a best of 3 can render and entire GSL Championship 'a fluke' ?


True, but he still hasn't proven much.


He's proven he can win a championship.

But I guess if you're saying "proven champion" like he can win again and again and again forever and ever I guess there are only 3 proven champions in sc2?


I'd say 4 proven.

Nestea, MC, MvP, MMA...PROVEN champions. And yes that is the definition i'm going by, guys that have shown that they can withstand the fuckton of pressure of multiple GSL runs to the Final and actually take em.


Then will Jjakji be a fluke champion if he doesn't win this GSL? Because MVP fell to Code A, MC fell to Code B, Nestea hasn't seen a final in a long time and MMA only "proved" himself via blizzard cup.

So let's track back. This match does not reveal whether Jjakji is a fluke champion. Perhaps the next 4 GSL's will, even by your estimation.


Right, this alone can't confirm it was a fluke championship, but my opinion was that his 1st was, and my statement is that he is unproven, which is correct. Opinion =/= statement.


How is your statement correct? I dont think your statement is correct. Many people think your statement is incorrect. Now what? Idk how going through an entire champsion, going through some of the best players in the world, winning the best tournament in the world makes him unproven.
Evil Geniuses<3
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
January 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#1794
DROP THE DISCUSSIONS PLEASE!!! WE ARE GETTING NOWHERE!!! Lets just focus on these amazing games
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
January 09 2012 11:29 GMT
#1795
wtf ganzi?????!?!?!?!?!
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 11:29:49
January 09 2012 11:29 GMT
#1796
cool games, but unfortunately the stream has a really poor quality today and is also quite stuttery.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
January 09 2012 11:29 GMT
#1797
Yup he was trying to kill a planetary with hellions
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38205 Posts
January 09 2012 11:29 GMT
#1798
On January 09 2012 20:27 Talack wrote:
Ganzi is just one of those players that is just a mess in every game but he still manages to win : /


Yeah, never really enjoy watching Ganzi, he's so scrappy most of the time.

Jjakji not scouting the hidden expansion really hurt him so far this game =(
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
January 09 2012 11:29 GMT
#1799
On January 09 2012 20:28 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:26 Seeker wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:22 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:19 Seeker wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:12 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:10 andaylin wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:10 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:08 andaylin wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:07 deadmau wrote:
This match should reveal whether Jjakji was a fluke champion or not.

lol wut? jjakji has more than proven that he is a champion.


Really...proven after one championship...

watch his play bro.


That makes him proven? Are you guys seriously fanboying this bad. Do you guys not what the fuck PROVEN means. WTF has he proven after his 1 fluke championship. You are really debating with me he has PROVEN something after winning 1 and 0 other have completed.

Uhhhhh...... Chill out bro


My bad, I was up in arms about blantant blind defense of a player due to fanboy-ism, without looking at hard facts, which there are none to go by since as I said before, he has yet to prove anything without a run in another season.

I understand. I also agree wih you. I also believe that u can get your point across without using caps and curse words.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, I CAN GET MY FUCKING POINT ACROSS WITHOUT SWEARING AND USING CAPS? SHIT

Lol!!!! I laughed
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 09 2012 11:29 GMT
#1800
On January 09 2012 20:25 deadmau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 20:22 bittman wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:17 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:15 bittman wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:13 deadmau wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:12 Cramsy wrote:
On January 09 2012 20:07 deadmau wrote:
This match should reveal whether Jjakji was a fluke champion or not.


lol 1 match in a best of 3 can render and entire GSL Championship 'a fluke' ?


True, but he still hasn't proven much.


He's proven he can win a championship.

But I guess if you're saying "proven champion" like he can win again and again and again forever and ever I guess there are only 3 proven champions in sc2?


I'd say 4 proven.

Nestea, MC, MvP, MMA...PROVEN champions. And yes that is the definition i'm going by, guys that have shown that they can withstand the fuckton of pressure of multiple GSL runs to the Final and actually take em.


Then will Jjakji be a fluke champion if he doesn't win this GSL? Because MVP fell to Code A, MC fell to Code B, Nestea hasn't seen a final in a long time and MMA only "proved" himself via blizzard cup.

So let's track back. This match does not reveal whether Jjakji is a fluke champion. Perhaps the next 4 GSL's will, even by your estimation.


Right, this alone can't confirm it was a fluke championship, but my opinion was that his 1st was, and my statement is that he is unproven, which is correct. Opinion =/= statement.


Right so there's the point of contention, your 'statement of fact' is that he is unproven which is not fact because "unproven" is by your 'opinion'.

It is indeed your opinion that his first was, and thus your fact is based on opinion. My opinion is that Jjakji proved himself as a champion, not the number1playerinsc2 which I think you're confusing with 'champion'.

A statement is: "Jjakji is the GSL November 2011 champion".

Anyway, what champion can say they beat Ganzi all the time? I haven't met that champion yet.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
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