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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 11:44:19
January 07 2012 11:44 GMT
#101
On January 07 2012 19:15 Jayjay54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 19:10 EchoZ wrote:
How solid is Grubby? Didn't see his games.


looked strong vs. zerg at least.

I found his PvT really cool though. The idea behind fake aggression while taking a FE and only focusing on SCV's while trading only the tanking zealots for it was quite unique and brilliant. The fast third + double forge seemed a bit risky though but I'm sure he has it worked out and just made a mistake in the game Goody won with his bio push.
Mclvor
Profile Joined February 2011
Italy15 Posts
January 07 2012 11:47 GMT
#102
its so hard for goody, because of the protosses in his group...
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 07 2012 11:48 GMT
#103
On January 07 2012 20:44 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 19:15 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 07 2012 19:10 EchoZ wrote:
How solid is Grubby? Didn't see his games.


looked strong vs. zerg at least.

I found his PvT really cool though. The idea behind fake aggression while taking a FE and only focusing on SCV's while trading only the tanking zealots for it was quite unique and brilliant. The fast third + double forge seemed a bit risky though but I'm sure he has it worked out and just made a mistake in the game Goody won with his bio push.

Yeah I agree completely. I think he has a really great PvT style. The idea of being on the edge of a macro lead whilst just barely defending and mixing in harass play while attempting to stay ahead of your opponent on bases.
The only thing I would say is his macro is lacking in many aspects. In game2 of the series the idea behind his 3rd base appeared to me to be correct... but getting to over 1000 minerals when Goody applied pressure, that cost him the game. He needs better crisis macro for sure.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 07 2012 11:50 GMT
#104
On January 07 2012 20:44 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 19:15 Jayjay54 wrote:
On January 07 2012 19:10 EchoZ wrote:
How solid is Grubby? Didn't see his games.


looked strong vs. zerg at least.

I found his PvT really cool though. The idea behind fake aggression while taking a FE and only focusing on SCV's while trading only the tanking zealots for it was quite unique and brilliant. The fast third + double forge seemed a bit risky though but I'm sure he has it worked out and just made a mistake in the game Goody won with his bio push.


His probe count near the end of games is nothing short of outrageous as well. He had about 85-90 at a number of points. Its like he's Zerg or something!
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 13:08:28
January 07 2012 11:54 GMT
#105
First Part of Day 2 on Stream 1: http://de.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304687895
4:14 - Day 2 Intro
24:00 - EG.JYP vs ATN.DarkForce casted by Mr. Bitter, Rotterdam, and Goody
1:02:45 - eSahara.Naama vs LiquidHero casted by Cloud, Incontrol, and Thorzain
1:49:40 - Dignitas.Bling vs ATN.DarkForce casted by Rotterdam, Incontrol, and Nightend

Second Part of Day 2 on Stream 1: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304695634
0:00 - Continuation of Bling vs DarkForce
14:00 - eSahara.Naama vs LiquidHaypro casted by Mr. Bitter, Poyo, and Adelscott (my guess based on "dirty Frenchman")
58:15 - Dignitas.Bling vs EG.JYP casted by MC, MKP, and Rice (spelling?), the SK team manager

Third Part of Day 2 on Stream 1: http://de.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304704465
15:00 - Light.KawaiiRice vs eSahara.Naama casted by Rotterdam, Cloud, and Poyo
1:17:15 - Grubby vs LiquidRet casted by Rotterdam, Incontrol, and Destiny
At the end they take a break to switch to an HD stream

Fourth Part of Day 2 on Stream 1 (HD quality): http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv_hd/b/304719785
6:50 - ESC.Goody vs LiquidRet casted by Mr. Bitter, Haypro, and Cloud
54:00 (actual start 55:40) - Moman vs Mill.Stephano casted by Mr. Bitter, Incontrol, and Bling (drunk)
1:35:45 - Goody vs Grubby casted by Rotterdam, Incontrol, and Naama

Last Part of Day 2 on Stream 1 (HD quality): http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv_hd/b/304729239
24:00 - Mill.Stephano vs Fnatic.Nightend casted by Mr.Bitter, Incontrol, and Bling (drunk)
47:50 - Goody vs Destiny casted by ?, DarkHydra, and DarkForce



Day 2 on Stream 2 (HD quality): http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv2_hd/b/304689129
1:30 - Dignitas.Bling vs DarkHydra casted by Attero and Poyo


Rest of Stream 2: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv2_hd/b/304718289

Edit: That's all for now - headed to bed.
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
January 07 2012 12:00 GMT
#106
Looking forward to seeing more of sound
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 07 2012 12:01 GMT
#107
Wow group B is so sick, can't wait for that! Want to see how Stephano does against Mc and MarineKing :D
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
January 07 2012 12:04 GMT
#108
Pretty nice groups I do really want to see Grubby advancing through the group A. A lot of sick matches today, can't wait!
750/750 emotions fully stacked
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 07 2012 12:05 GMT
#109
Kinda infortunate we can clearly see that in group A and group C there is 2 favorites and 2 underdogs while in group B everyone could win the whole thing (except maybe Socked but he always upsets someone anyway). Poor MC hardest group in HSC4, hardest group in Code S.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
zerker2strong
Profile Joined May 2011
775 Posts
January 07 2012 12:07 GMT
#110
is this bo3 or bo5?
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
January 07 2012 12:07 GMT
#111
On January 07 2012 20:33 Kazil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 20:30 AsnSensation wrote:
On January 07 2012 20:24 Spitmode wrote:
By the way what happened to all those awesome photoshop edits of HSC3 ? Havent seen any so far in HSC4 yet there have been millions of possibilities


I know machine eating a burger while photobombing every single picture was epic but I don't know how better it can be than this with two days to come

[image loading]
[image loading]

€ also there's an epic pic with dimaga in the window looking like a psycho but I can't find that right now :D


Troll-Dimaga in the window.

[image loading]


MKPs expression in the Dimaga Troll pic is quite funny too lol.

Sucks that Group B is so much harder than the other 3
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 12:09:06
January 07 2012 12:08 GMT
#112
On January 07 2012 21:05 Yaki wrote:
Kinda infortunate we can clearly see that in group A and group C there is 2 favorites and 2 underdogs while in group B everyone could win the whole thing (except maybe Socked but he always upsets someone anyway). Poor MC hardest group in HSC4, hardest group in Code S.

Who exactly are the two favorites in group A lol?
You could say Sound yes, but any of the three other guys can make it out, and I won't even be surprised if Sound doesn't make it tbh.
Same for group C, JYP is probably certain, but you never know vs GoOdy, and ClouD has looked quite impressive this tournament. e; And so has ReaL ofcourse, but I'll give you this one, because JYP&ReaL are quite heavy favorites.
It appears I have been chosen.
Carnagath
Profile Joined July 2010
230 Posts
January 07 2012 12:09 GMT
#113
Group A: I can see Sound losing to Grubby. Yesterday Sound showed excellent control and gamesense, but his macro was imho very mediocre, while Grubby is a macro beast. Korean Terrans probably don't face many pure macro Toss players on the Korean ladder...
Prediction: 1) Grubby 2) Sound 3) Dimaga 4) Darkforce

Group B: Stephano's ZvP is as scary as always. I don't see him losing to Socke, while MC seems to think he is an excellent player so he has most likely also studied him and his timings. I think MC has a good chance of beating him. He will also lose to MKP, since he usually does stupid shit in ZvT when he's in a major tournament, like mass roaches vs biomech or, you know, make ultras.
Prediction: 1) MC 2) MKP 3) Stephano 4) Socke

Group C: Goody in a group with Cloud and 2 Koreans who have probably never even heard of him and his shenanigans. This is gonna be fun.
Prediction: 1) JYP 2) Goody 3) Real 4) Cloud

Group D: Group of death in my opinion. All players are in excellent shape. No idea who is going to win.
Gut prediction: 1) Hero 2) Naama 3) Violet 4) Nerchio
"If you can chill, chill". -Tyler
manloveman
Profile Joined April 2011
424 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 12:12:14
January 07 2012 12:11 GMT
#114
Damn group B and D are really interesting. Lets see of foreign zerg power will hold.

Im also hoping to see grubby get on in group A. He is just such a perfect example professionalism in esport!
If you havent seen it yet, sort of interesting docu about grubby in his home in netherlands:
+ Show Spoiler +

Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7979 Posts
January 07 2012 12:13 GMT
#115
homestory cup truely is the protoss tourney

hsc 2 and 3 both had only protoss in top 3 and it would be no surprise if it happened again this time

i bet rotterdam's influence on the invitations plays a role in this :D
Lillor
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany137 Posts
January 07 2012 12:17 GMT
#116
On January 07 2012 20:54 dcemuser wrote:
First Part of Day 2 on Stream 1: http://de.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304687895

4:14 - Day 2 Intro
24:00 - EG.JYP vs ATN.DarkForce casted by Mr. Bitter, Rotterdam, and Goody
1:02:45 - eSahara.Naama vs LiquidHero casted by Cloud, Incontrol, and Thorzain
1:49:40 - Dignitas.Bling vs ATN.DarkForce casted by Rotterdam, Incontrol, and Nightend

Second Part of Day 2 on Stream 1: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304695634
0:00 - Continuation of Bling vs DarkForce
14:00 - eSahara.Naama vs LiquidHaypro casted by Mr. Bitter, Poyo, and Adelscott (my guess based on "dirty Frenchman")
58:15 - Dignitas.Bling vs EG.JYP casted by ?


Third Part of Day 2 on Stream 1: http://de.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304704465


Fourth Part of Day 2 on Stream 1: http://de.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304704309

Edit: Doing moar

Another link: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv/b/304695634
Another link: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv_hd/b/304719785
Another link: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv_hd/b/304729239
Another link: http://en.twitch.tv/esltv_taketv_hd/b/304730323


Thank you very much!
Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
January 07 2012 12:25 GMT
#117
Group B is pretty sick.

Hope Naama does well today
TheMiddl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany9 Posts
January 07 2012 12:28 GMT
#118
Shedule is on this side

http://www.readmore.de/index.php?cont=show_groupstage&id=199
- the german esport newsletter^^
GornWood
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany121 Posts
January 07 2012 12:29 GMT
#119
ReaL is actually Protoss fix that please !
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 07 2012 12:30 GMT
#120
Group A :
Sound
Grubby

Sound looks really strong, while Grubby showed great PvZ.

Group B :
MC
MKP
Stephano ? (Actualy I would bet on him, but I heard he drank too much last night, so...)

Group C :
JYP
Real

I don't trust Cloud's and Goody's TvP enough good to take games from these 2 koreans. Even if I really want more foreigners in final bracket.

Group D :
Hero
Nerchio

Tough group, I think all these players can win against all other. And I feel like Naama may surprise.
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