On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote: out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?
I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.
I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MVP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.
Ok.. it's coming back to me. I think it's because macro games are forgettable sometimes except for the really epic ones... but someone proxying a rax right outside of vision range is way more memorable.
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote: out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?
I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.
I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MVP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.
Slight correction, he took out MKP I believe, not MVP. It was bomber who beat MVP in the Code A finals
On December 19 2011 13:35 Hall0wed wrote: Don't wanna sound like a jerk but I wish IPL would do better at updating their OP. TT Seems to be slow on all of their topics. >_<
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote: out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?
I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.
I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MVP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.
Ok.. it's coming back to me. I think it's because macro games are forgettable sometimes except for the really epic ones... but someone proxying a rax right outside of vision range is way more memorable.
EDIT: And proxying a factor with that rax...
Ganzi is a beastly macro player, one of the better ones out there. He has often favoured 1-1-1 or something similar vs protoss in the past, because IMO he doesn't have great micro on his bio units so he seems to struggle in long games vs protoss, but tvt and tvz there are plenty of examples of long games from him.
On December 19 2011 11:41 drgonzhere wrote: Does anyone follow when ReIGN's manager puts up his thoughts on the match? They are probably the most unintentionally hilarious thing on the internet right now. Whenever they lose, they should have won in his book. I'm pretty sure he thinks he has the best team in the world, I'm sorry but that is laughable.
so far they have only lost one match that has his thoughts on it thats way too soon to be saying he always says they should of won when ever they lose. It really isn't hard to see keen losing before artist came up he almost did to inori and with drg losing to dreamertt of all people it's not hard to see artist beating him.
i am not saying artist would beat drg just that it really isn't laughable.
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote: out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?
I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.
I would recommend Ganzi-Leenock GSL Oct series. Ganzi took the series 2-1 and I think all three games were 15-20min+ game with the final game being an all bases taken slug-fest. He took out MVP 4-2 (4-3?) in Code A finals as well TvT and had decent macro games as far as I remember. I do have to say that I have seen him favoring 1 or 2 base plays in TvP though.
Slight correction, he took out MKP I believe, not MVP. It was bomber who beat MVP in the Code A finals
yup ganzi beat MKP 4-3 in code A. Bomber beat MVP 4-2 in code A
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote: out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?
I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.
GanZi is renowned throughout Korea (and most of the world, really) as having some of the best TvZ in the world. I'm pretty sure Leenock was aiming for him as a practice partner for his GSL final.
This is partly due to his mind games and tricks, but also because his macro game is pretty beastly as well.
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote: out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?
I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.
Who cares if he cheeses or does all-ins? You gotta have variety in your game and Ganzi does everything from cheese, allin, innovative strats and standard macro games. MVP and MMA do the same, they mix in different strats, including cheese. Who the hell wants to see 5 base, no fighting for 15 minutes, max army clash every single game?
On December 19 2011 11:53 wklbishop wrote: out of curiosity, how often does Ganzi win without cheese/all-in?
I'm not saying this as an insult, more of a... I've literally rarely seen him win without cheesing or all-inning.
Who cares if he cheeses or does all-ins? You gotta have variety in your game and Ganzi does everything from cheese, allin, innovative strats and standard macro games. MVP and MMA do the same, they mix in different strats, including cheese. Who the hell wants to see 5 base, no fighting for 15 minutes, max army clash every single game?
Ganzi vs Leenock GSL august, epic series. Ganzi is a tip top macro player. Watch MLG Anaheim and see his destroy players like Ret.
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