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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
December 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#3141
On December 05 2011 14:20 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:17 HinagikUx wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:15 Darclite wrote:
Guys it's just that Puma is so good, I mean look how he plans ahead by building 4 banshees from one starport at the same time. And that was so smart to stop and snipe the assimilators at Hero's main instead of making sure he could win.

i lol'd...he queued banshees cuz his macro is shit and he relys on cheesy shenanigans like hidden starport or hidden ghost rush to win lol


Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:14 Hopelessnoob wrote:
This is so dumb,,, no one can win base race vs terran


Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:17 MuseMike wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:16 0neder wrote:
Great game, but it pisses me off that Puma can get away with this and still win. This is what turns me off to PvT. Puma can be not mining for minutes at a time and still win. Shouldn't protoss be the race where 1 of a unit like the banshee is deadly, rather than Terran?

Puma does this every PvT. He never wins macro games and only wins when he does a 111, 311, marine scv all in or a ghost timing.



Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:18 Original exxo wrote:
Lol, 2 base timing
what else is new with puma


the uniformed and utterly biased rage is strong in this thread i see


srsly.

if that obs didnt get sniped out in the open. people wouldnt say such crap.
Kodak
Profile Joined March 2011
United States157 Posts
December 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#3142
Uh oh hero... TT
twitch.tv/crwnkodak [ Taeja | Huk | MMA ]
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
December 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#3143
greedy opening but good timing on his gates, can he hold!?
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#3144
4 gate going down post nexus, could be able to defend this, but puma playing quite well with denying a scout. conc just coming cs is finished.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
December 05 2011 05:22 GMT
#3145
On December 05 2011 14:20 mvtaylor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:17 HinagikUx wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:15 Darclite wrote:
Guys it's just that Puma is so good, I mean look how he plans ahead by building 4 banshees from one starport at the same time. And that was so smart to stop and snipe the assimilators at Hero's main instead of making sure he could win.

i lol'd...he queued banshees cuz his macro is shit and he relys on cheesy shenanigans like hidden starport or hidden ghost rush to win lol


Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:14 Hopelessnoob wrote:
This is so dumb,,, no one can win base race vs terran


Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:17 MuseMike wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:16 0neder wrote:
Great game, but it pisses me off that Puma can get away with this and still win. This is what turns me off to PvT. Puma can be not mining for minutes at a time and still win. Shouldn't protoss be the race where 1 of a unit like the banshee is deadly, rather than Terran?

Puma does this every PvT. He never wins macro games and only wins when he does a 111, 311, marine scv all in or a ghost timing.



Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:18 Original exxo wrote:
Lol, 2 base timing
what else is new with puma


the uniformed and utterly biased rage is strong in this thread i see

Maybe you haven't seen Puma play PvT, but any time Puma wins money at any tournament its the same builds over and over and never any macro games he wins.
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3146
On December 05 2011 14:20 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:17 HinagikUx wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:15 Darclite wrote:
Guys it's just that Puma is so good, I mean look how he plans ahead by building 4 banshees from one starport at the same time. And that was so smart to stop and snipe the assimilators at Hero's main instead of making sure he could win.

i lol'd...he queued banshees cuz his macro is shit and he relys on cheesy shenanigans like hidden starport or hidden ghost rush to win lol


I don't like his style either, but if it is going to get the job done then more power to him. I don't think he wants to take it to the late game and I wouldn't blame him because it's very hard to beat a very good protoss player late game.


Indeed.
If anyone denies that Puma's TvP is based on gimmicks he's just in denial.
Sure, it works, but that doesn't mean I have to like it :p
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3147
On December 05 2011 14:21 mierin wrote:
-.- even though I'm a Puma fan, I want this to go to game 7...not looking good

Agreed insofar as I want this to last for as many games as possible. Im happy for either to win, I just cant pick one over the other...gimme a bo15 please!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3148
thank god for a longer game. didnt want to see puma win so fast. take it to game 7
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3149
On December 05 2011 14:20 Ace.Xile wrote:
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On December 05 2011 14:17 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Hero I know you can still take this... the most annoying thing in the world is facing that marine tank BS it's so damn nasty in SC2


These type of comments are beyond annoying, hero beat puma a week ago, i'd love if people would stop whining about all the balance, and how "bad" players win.. ugh. Obnoxious, just watch the game.


Dude... I just made a comment how annoying it is to play against a marine tank contain... your overreacting and I think almost 99% of fellow protoss will agree how annoying it is to play against.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
illu23
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 05:23:51
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3150
On December 05 2011 14:20 taLbuk wrote:
puma wins = terran op
hero wins = omg hero next bonjwa best protoss player mini bisu


Yeah, you wonder why? Puma winning is no big deal, it's just Terran. However Hero winning shows that skill can still beat imbalance and abusiveness. As usual, Toss winning equals playing several levels better than Terran.


User was temp banned for this post.
Odi et amo. Quare id faciam fortasse requiris. Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.
Lakai
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada315 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3151
At least I know in the long run solid and standard play will always be better than exploitative play.
HerO - Minigun - MaNa - Puzzle - NonY - Axslav - MKP - DeMusliM - SeleCT - LosirA
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3152
God damn the stream went offline for half a second.... atleast on my part
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Zebb
Profile Joined March 2011
United States834 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3153
Wow, the gamesense from both these players is completely insane.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3154
PuMa decides to bunker up after thinking twice on the matter, HerO taking map control and looking to get agressive however
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3155
On December 05 2011 14:21 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:20 taLbuk wrote:
puma wins = terran op
hero wins = omg hero next bonjwa best protoss player mini bisu

give credit where credit is due, these games are awsome and both players are playing pretty good, whoever wins this deserves it.


I think most of the rage is because Puma can pull half of his SCVs for an offensive advantage and then micro around Hero's base for 2-3 mins without any serious economic penalty.



Hahahah are you joking?

I think the fact PuMa stayed in the game was due to the severe damage he was causing with his attack meaning that pulling his SCVs was a good rsk to take
@followMVT
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3156
gah audio zzzz
coreydota
Profile Joined October 2010
United States180 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3157
On December 05 2011 14:22 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:20 mvtaylor wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:17 HinagikUx wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:15 Darclite wrote:
Guys it's just that Puma is so good, I mean look how he plans ahead by building 4 banshees from one starport at the same time. And that was so smart to stop and snipe the assimilators at Hero's main instead of making sure he could win.

i lol'd...he queued banshees cuz his macro is shit and he relys on cheesy shenanigans like hidden starport or hidden ghost rush to win lol


On December 05 2011 14:14 Hopelessnoob wrote:
This is so dumb,,, no one can win base race vs terran


On December 05 2011 14:17 MuseMike wrote:
On December 05 2011 14:16 0neder wrote:
Great game, but it pisses me off that Puma can get away with this and still win. This is what turns me off to PvT. Puma can be not mining for minutes at a time and still win. Shouldn't protoss be the race where 1 of a unit like the banshee is deadly, rather than Terran?

Puma does this every PvT. He never wins macro games and only wins when he does a 111, 311, marine scv all in or a ghost timing.



On December 05 2011 14:18 Original exxo wrote:
Lol, 2 base timing
what else is new with puma


the uniformed and utterly biased rage is strong in this thread i see

Maybe you haven't seen Puma play PvT, but any time Puma wins money at any tournament its the same builds over and over and never any macro games he wins.


he wins plenty of macro games, stop spewing bullshit and and have fun with the games
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3158
On December 05 2011 14:20 taLbuk wrote:
puma wins = terran op
hero wins = omg hero next bonjwa best protoss player mini bisu

give credit where credit is due, these games are awesome and both players are playing pretty good, whoever wins this deserves it.


Terrans never get any credit sadly :-/
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
December 05 2011 05:23 GMT
#3159
Seriously all of you who are crying terran is imba, Or saying that puma is unskilled and is just a cheesey player, please shut up already. I want HerO to win honestly but reading all of these people insulting puma for playing the game to win is fucking absurd. He did a 2 base timing push on a map where the terrain lends its self to a powerful attack like that, WOW that doesn't make him bad.

Those of you who are crying imba or saying what these players should have done, you need to remember these guys are a lot better than you. Crying imbalanced over what you see in a pro-game usually isn't the smartest thing unless you really understand what is going on.

TL;DR leave puma the fuck alone and quit with the negativity towards the players.
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
December 05 2011 05:24 GMT
#3160
On December 05 2011 14:21 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 14:20 taLbuk wrote:
puma wins = terran op
hero wins = omg hero next bonjwa best protoss player mini bisu

give credit where credit is due, these games are awsome and both players are playing pretty good, whoever wins this deserves it.


I think most of the rage is because Puma can pull half of his SCVs for an offensive advantage and then micro around Hero's base for 2-3 mins without any serious economic penalty.

To be fair, with hero getting his third in the pocket natural and puma not yet starting a third that would be hard to defend, he'd be pretty screwed if he tried to go from an economic game, wouldn't he?
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