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Enjoy the games guys.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
December 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#4461
On December 03 2011 08:59 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:59 jmbthirteen wrote:

On December 03 2011 08:50 jnc wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:45 Kira__ wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:43 Count9 wrote:
europe 1 - 0 usa


huk is korean


"huk is South Korean"
"huk is America"
"huk is Canadian"
...
I'm gonna call huk "South Canadian" from now on...


But you are missing one. He's United South Canadian


South Canadian=American.
I hope he meant that at least.

^ indeed - glad someone caught that
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
December 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#4462
On December 03 2011 09:01 Usagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:59 Antithesis wrote:
Did I miss anything? Was there some kind of grudge between EG and mouz before NASL finals?

Just wondering because of the (hilarious) tweets.


At first, EG said they were the team with most players in the tournament.
Mouz answered them and told them to make research "bro"
then EG called Hasuobs a walkover.

And things went on from there, talking about shirts and what not xD pretty funny

Are you sure they were referring to HasuOrbs?
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
December 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#4463
On December 03 2011 08:59 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:58 Gara wrote:
Seriously? They've played 9 games in 7 and a half hours? And all PvP's at that... Every time I check the stream, it's just a layover, I haven't even seen a game... I'm beginning to think there's no actual tournament.

FYI the tournament was massively delayed by Hon matches lasting for ages, the first match of hon went on for over an hour.


wasnt it 30 min delay when they started pre match talk ? wouldnt call that massive, but yeah there was a delay..

though, nasl doing an pretty nice job so far, i hope more ppl will show up, but thats not their fault - they have to start early to make the matches bo5.
flexgd
Profile Joined September 2011
183 Posts
December 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#4464
lol eg self-pwned themselves so much on twitter its hilarious
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
December 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#4465
Hell yeah Strelok! Want...epic....strelok...interview!
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
AvAri
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria135 Posts
December 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#4466
On December 03 2011 08:57 Ubertron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:55 Ruscour wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:51 Lavi wrote:
people really enjoyed those colossus wars? well its prob just me but i found it boring and skill less.. i hope pvp doesn't end like that >.>

It's not skill-less at all. Control in those fights is absolutely insanely taxing. It's not like ZvZ where whoever has the better Roach concave wins, you are:

- forcefielding off Zealots around Archons
- using Archons to break forcefields
- Blinking Stalkers out of melee range
- Blinking Stalkers to pick off Colossus
- focus firing Immortals on Stalkers/Colossus
- spreading out units so opposing Colossus don't do too much AoE
- focus firing Colossus on clumped units
- warping in units, which unlike the other races directly takes you away from the battle as you can't do it just from hotkeys, you need to move the camera and click a bunch
- chronoboosting gateways/robo/upgrades

It's still incredibly monotonous and even though there is a lot of subtle positioning, none of it actually has any of the 'wow' factor as a spectator that good marine splitting, blink micro or a well executed 3-way flank from a Z. My current PvP is literally based around surviving to the lategame and getting double robo collosus with attack upgrades, they wipe out everything on the ground it's just silly.

As a Protoss player I really wanted this unit taken out of HoTS and replaced with a more mechanically interesting and strategic unit, but apparently that's not happening


this pvp sucks thing is really stuck in peoples heads... sad

in my opinion its far more interesting than zvz and tvt if it involves bio
pvp these days offers a lot of different openings and ways to play the midgame (all of them involve blink stalkers but well you have standards in every race)
the lategame army is often the same (and its rarly mass colossus like in the last game (in tournament play at least) but thats also pretty much the same with every other mu


whats more interesting is ofc opinionbased but saying pvp sucks and is always colossus-wars is just wrong
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
December 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#4467
On December 03 2011 08:58 Gara wrote:
Seriously? They've played 9 games in 7 and a half hours? And all PvP's at that... Every time I check the stream, it's just a layover, I haven't even seen a game... I'm beginning to think there's no actual tournament.

The SC2 tournament has only started 3 hours ago.
We've had two very entertaining PvP BO5 so far, no reason to complain.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#4468
On December 03 2011 09:02 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 09:01 Usagi wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:59 Antithesis wrote:
Did I miss anything? Was there some kind of grudge between EG and mouz before NASL finals?

Just wondering because of the (hilarious) tweets.


At first, EG said they were the team with most players in the tournament.
Mouz answered them and told them to make research "bro"
then EG called Hasuobs a walkover.

And things went on from there, talking about shirts and what not xD pretty funny

Are you sure they were referring to HasuOrbs?


Would it be Mana, MorroW or ThorZaIN? (shit mouz is stacked.)
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
December 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#4469
On December 03 2011 09:02 dmans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:59 Serpico wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:59 jmbthirteen wrote:

On December 03 2011 08:50 jnc wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:45 Kira__ wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:43 Count9 wrote:
europe 1 - 0 usa


huk is korean


"huk is South Korean"
"huk is America"
"huk is Canadian"
...
I'm gonna call huk "South Canadian" from now on...


But you are missing one. He's United South Canadian

Huk is every nationality on Earth.

huk the earthling


Captain Planet! :O
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
December 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#4470
On December 03 2011 09:02 flexgd wrote:
lol eg self-pwned themselves so much on twitter its hilarious


Yeah because playful smack talk is super srs
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
December 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#4471
Sigh..... I don't understand why Huk can beat MC and the like and lose to players like HasuObs and Elfi... makes zero sense to me.
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
December 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#4472
On December 03 2011 09:03 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 09:02 Zane wrote:
On December 03 2011 09:01 Usagi wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:59 Antithesis wrote:
Did I miss anything? Was there some kind of grudge between EG and mouz before NASL finals?

Just wondering because of the (hilarious) tweets.


At first, EG said they were the team with most players in the tournament.
Mouz answered them and told them to make research "bro"
then EG called Hasuobs a walkover.

And things went on from there, talking about shirts and what not xD pretty funny

Are you sure they were referring to HasuOrbs?


Would it be Mana, MorroW or ThorZaIN? (shit mouz is stacked.)

Lol you're right they were referring to Hasu.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
December 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#4473
On December 03 2011 09:02 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 09:01 Usagi wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:59 Antithesis wrote:
Did I miss anything? Was there some kind of grudge between EG and mouz before NASL finals?

Just wondering because of the (hilarious) tweets.


At first, EG said they were the team with most players in the tournament.
Mouz answered them and told them to make research "bro"
then EG called Hasuobs a walkover.

And things went on from there, talking about shirts and what not xD pretty funny

Are you sure they were referring to HasuOrbs?

They weren't really referring to anyone, they just miscounted and mouze and eg joked around.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
December 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#4474
On December 03 2011 09:02 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 09:01 Usagi wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:59 Antithesis wrote:
Did I miss anything? Was there some kind of grudge between EG and mouz before NASL finals?

Just wondering because of the (hilarious) tweets.


At first, EG said they were the team with most players in the tournament.
Mouz answered them and told them to make research "bro"
then EG called Hasuobs a walkover.

And things went on from there, talking about shirts and what not xD pretty funny

Are you sure they were referring to HasuOrbs?

I doubt they were referring to ThorZaIN
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
BLo-oD
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia10 Posts
December 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#4475
protoss has almost made it to the finals!
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#4476
On December 03 2011 09:03 RJGooner wrote:
Sigh..... I don't understand why Huk can beat MC and the like and lose to players like HasuObs and Elfi... makes zero sense to me.


Because he practices to kill koreans not europeans that play a different more passive style.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#4477
On December 03 2011 09:03 RJGooner wrote:
Sigh..... I don't understand why Huk can beat MC and the like and lose to players like HasuObs and Elfi... makes zero sense to me.


Because Huk lived and practiced for MC for almost a year? He knows how MC plays. He doesn't know how HasuObs or Elfi plays.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#4478
On December 03 2011 09:03 RJGooner wrote:
Sigh..... I don't understand why Huk can beat MC and the like and lose to players like HasuObs and Elfi... makes zero sense to me.


You should actually watch games he wins and loses. More often than not it's due to 1 base play or a hidden proxy.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
December 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#4479
Logged on to see Huk lost to HasuObs. What a glorious day. ^_________^
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
December 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#4480
On December 03 2011 09:02 AvAri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:57 Ubertron wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:55 Ruscour wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:51 Lavi wrote:
people really enjoyed those colossus wars? well its prob just me but i found it boring and skill less.. i hope pvp doesn't end like that >.>

It's not skill-less at all. Control in those fights is absolutely insanely taxing. It's not like ZvZ where whoever has the better Roach concave wins, you are:

- forcefielding off Zealots around Archons
- using Archons to break forcefields
- Blinking Stalkers out of melee range
- Blinking Stalkers to pick off Colossus
- focus firing Immortals on Stalkers/Colossus
- spreading out units so opposing Colossus don't do too much AoE
- focus firing Colossus on clumped units
- warping in units, which unlike the other races directly takes you away from the battle as you can't do it just from hotkeys, you need to move the camera and click a bunch
- chronoboosting gateways/robo/upgrades

It's still incredibly monotonous and even though there is a lot of subtle positioning, none of it actually has any of the 'wow' factor as a spectator that good marine splitting, blink micro or a well executed 3-way flank from a Z. My current PvP is literally based around surviving to the lategame and getting double robo collosus with attack upgrades, they wipe out everything on the ground it's just silly.

As a Protoss player I really wanted this unit taken out of HoTS and replaced with a more mechanically interesting and strategic unit, but apparently that's not happening


this pvp sucks thing is really stuck in peoples heads... sad

in my opinion its far more interesting than zvz and tvt if it involves bio
pvp these days offers a lot of different openings and ways to play the midgame (all of them involve blink stalkers but well you have standards in every race)
the lategame army is often the same (and its rarly mass colossus like in the last game (in tournament play at least) but thats also pretty much the same with every other mu


whats more interesting is ofc opinionbased but saying pvp sucks and is always colossus-wars is just wrong


I agree. I think in the last few months PvP has been SOOOO much better than ZvZ, and TvT often hinges too much on a 1 second mistake(not having your tanks sieged up against bio) that turns even the most dominating game into an instant loss.
Jieun <3
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