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Enjoy the games guys.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 02 2011 23:24 GMT
#3721
On December 03 2011 08:23 ZOMGitsTHEEND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:20 Crushinator wrote:
Wow such an awesome game, bit silly for Hasu to push while ahead in eco but apart from that both guys played so well.

huk had his third up while hasu didnt start his so even though he had more probes, huk had the eco advantage as there was so little minerals in the 2nd base


Hasu had his 3rd up earlier and lost it because he attacked and HuK did defend very well ...~~
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3722

On December 03 2011 08:22 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:21 Grettin wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:19 bgx wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:19 Grettin wrote:
Sigh, Hasu didn't really deserve to win that game to be honest. GG nevertheless.

huk made the same mistake ....


He made LESS mistakes overall compared to Hasu. Hasu had a significant lead. What did HuK do? keep Hasu in his base with nice stalker control, picked units left and right (colossus) with his stalkers and literally came back to the game.

Most of the engagements HuK was way behind unit wise compared to Hasu, yet Hasu managed to lose everyone of them but the last one.


Are you fucking kidding me? Making 20 less probes is not a small mistake, its a MASSIVE one. It didn't matter in the end, it was all about the macro.


Making 20 less probes is a decision, not a mistake, it may or it may not pan out, in this case it didn't.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3723
On December 03 2011 08:22 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:21 Grettin wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:19 bgx wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:19 Grettin wrote:
Sigh, Hasu didn't really deserve to win that game to be honest. GG nevertheless.

huk made the same mistake ....


He made LESS mistakes overall compared to Hasu. Hasu had a significant lead. What did HuK do? keep Hasu in his base with nice stalker control, picked units left and right (colossus) with his stalkers and literally came back to the game.

Most of the engagements HuK was way behind unit wise compared to Hasu, yet Hasu managed to lose everyone of them but the last one.


Are you fucking kidding me? Making 20 less probes is not a small mistake, its a MASSIVE one. It didn't matter in the end, it was all about the macro.

Well huk was at about 40 probes right? That's very close to full saturation on 2 base and for the most part neither player was mining minerals from more than 2 bases, so yer, 20 probes didn't really do *that* much(except win the fight at the end! )
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 23:26:08
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3724
Huk under pressure then...wonder if we'll see DT's >_>

On December 03 2011 08:25 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:22 hysterial wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:21 Grettin wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:19 bgx wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:19 Grettin wrote:
Sigh, Hasu didn't really deserve to win that game to be honest. GG nevertheless.

huk made the same mistake ....


He made LESS mistakes overall compared to Hasu. Hasu had a significant lead. What did HuK do? keep Hasu in his base with nice stalker control, picked units left and right (colossus) with his stalkers and literally came back to the game.

Most of the engagements HuK was way behind unit wise compared to Hasu, yet Hasu managed to lose everyone of them but the last one.


Are you fucking kidding me? Making 20 less probes is not a small mistake, its a MASSIVE one. It didn't matter in the end, it was all about the macro.

Well huk was at about 40 probes right? That's very close to full saturation on 2 base and for the most part neither player was mining minerals from more than 2 bases, so yer, 20 probes didn't really do *that* much(except win the fight at the end! )


Pretty sure Huk cut at 32-34 initially which pretty much pins you to gateway play off 2base
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3725
On December 03 2011 08:23 Alpino wrote:
Ok ok, people, protip: Don't try to argue that Hasu is better. He is not. This is from a non US and non European perspective. This series may go either way and Hasu is a very good player, but HuK has too much under his belt for you to say that Hasu is a better Starcraft II player.

This debate is always pointless so let's not even start it. The guy that wins it is the guy that played better today, that's what people should be saying anyhow.
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3726
Using all those probes served as a way to split Huk's ground army between his zealot/stalkers and Colossus/Archon. It allowed Hasu to kill Huk's zealot/stalkers while retaining the bulk of his army. After that the combined army took care of Huk.
1OthpOwer
Profile Joined November 2010
United States3 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3727
Can I get a situation report? What's the score?
Practice never makes perfect, you can ALWAYS better your best.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3728
LET'S GO HASU HWAITING!!!!¬
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Lior
Profile Joined September 2010
Portugal118 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3729
Did they use that picture of Huk photoshopped to look like a girl?Wtf..
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3730
On December 03 2011 08:23 Alpino wrote:
Ok ok, people, protip: Don't try to argue that Hasu is better. He is not. This is from a non US and non European perspective. This series may go either way and Hasu is a very good player, but HuK has too much under his belt for you to say that Hasu is a better Starcraft II player.


Better does not mean more succesful. And in PvP he seems to be better.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3731
Hasu should have long distance mined, when he was on won base with 45 probes.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 23:26:05
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3732
On December 03 2011 08:22 Soleron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:19 TheKefka wrote:
On December 03 2011 08:18 Soleron wrote:
sickest pvp in forever

I'm loosing faith in humanity...


If the matchup can't be good it might as well be fun.

The matcup can be really good its just too bad the players aren't good enough yet to make it interesting consistently.
Cackle™
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3733
On December 03 2011 08:23 VENDIZ wrote:
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On December 03 2011 08:20 Hall0wed wrote:
LOL all this kid knows how to do is all-in apparently.

In all honesty HuK should have pulled some damn probes but hey what can you do when your opponent is an all-iner like that.


What the fuck? Is taking the first expansion in a PvP an all-in?!


Cutting probes at 30 on 2 bases, not teching and making a crapton of units is pretty all-in ish. You know, when huk had 6 gates, blink stalkers and a crapton of zealots in hasu's nat.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3734
On December 03 2011 08:25 1OthpOwer wrote:
Can I get a situation report? What's the score?

2-2, Last game on Dual Sight.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3735
haha i knew it, the 5 dots dont fit in the overlay
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
December 02 2011 23:25 GMT
#3736
On December 03 2011 08:25 Asha` wrote:
Huk under pressure then...wonder if we'll see DT's >_>

We already saw them twice :p

Guess it's a 4gate
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
December 02 2011 23:26 GMT
#3737
On December 03 2011 08:23 ZOMGitsTHEEND wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 08:20 Crushinator wrote:
Wow such an awesome game, bit silly for Hasu to push while ahead in eco but apart from that both guys played so well.

huk had his third up while hasu didnt start his so even though he had more probes, huk had the eco advantage as there was so little minerals in the 2nd base

i think he meant the time when hasu had third but huk didnt yet...at the end hasu didnt have a choice rly
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
December 02 2011 23:26 GMT
#3738
On December 03 2011 08:25 1OthpOwer wrote:
Can I get a situation report? What's the score?


it is on top of the screen ;-) . In case you cannot watch the stream its 2/2.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
December 02 2011 23:26 GMT
#3739
If Huk loses this.... Euro PvP 4-0 Huk in last 4 matchups according to the preview article. lol
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mister.bubbles
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada171 Posts
December 02 2011 23:26 GMT
#3740
Not sure how I feel about the spotlight on the stage. Not being able to see the crowd is kind of a downer but it sort of looks like the casters are ascending to godhood or something which is cool.
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